Maiden Newton in EM

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Tim

Thanks for taking an interest in the Manor. I understand that the original intention was that the model would be suitable for conversion - in much the same way as their earlier modern traction models are - but the decision was made quite early on for it not to be so. I suspect that the prospect of providing three different styles of wheels - bogie, driving and tender - made to two different standards - EM and P4 - in small quantities was found be far too uneconomical to be viable. But I was hopeful that they would have allowed for the necessary clearances during the design stage and that seems to be the case.

I've done the conversion for EM but I'm not able to vouch for P4 not having done it myself - but it seems likely that it can be done. As for the smooth running, it seems that I have been lucky and mine runs well. I too have a thing about the running qualities of engines and Anthony Manor certainly runs well enough for me. Hope this helps.
 

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
I've just taken a look on here for the first time in months and am astonished to see how long it has been since I last posted - where does the time go? Between lots of distractions, life, etc, there has been progress with Maiden Newton but as ever, not as much as I would like. Anthony Manor seems to have settled in quite nicely and is currently working a Weymouth - Bristol stopping train comprising a M set and a couple of vans. Given my experience with this engine I am now contemplating the arrival - not too far into the future I hope - of the Accurascale pannier tank where I hope to be able to repeat the re-wheeling exercise. I've gone for an 8750 as I rather like them with the later Collett cabs and they are the ones that I remember seeing most of all. But with the fairly imminent arrival of this model in mind I thought it time that I completed another pannier that I have had in progress for far too long.

No. 7780 was built using a Mainline body running on a High Level chassis. She has Ultrascale driving wheels, a Mashima motor and runs like a dream. The body has been reworked with some components replaced with brass castings from Brassmasters - smokebox door handle, tank fillers, safety valve bonnet, etc. In a moment of inspiration - unusual for me - I realised that the left over parts for the closed cab from my Finney 27xx pannier tank kit, which had been built as a half cab, should fit the 57xx and so it proved. So the clunky Bachmann cab rear and roof was dispensed with, the replacement etched brass cab rear assembled and fitted and then a new cab roof was made from nickel silver with the riveting done with my 'Reynolds Riveter'. I was not able to use the Finney etched cab roof as the sliding roof ventilator on 27xx was in a different position to the 57xx. I think the resulting transformation made the extra work worthwhile.


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I have also been working on some of the scenic elements with quite a bit of progress achieved. This has all been by trial and error as I've never done anything like this before. As a preliminary I read - and then re-read several times - Gordon Gravett's book on modelling grassland from Wild Swan and can recommend it without hesitation as being the way to go. I also talked to Neil Podberry at length about how to go about it and he couldn't have been more helpful. And I should also thank my near neighbour Chris Hopper for the long term loan of his static grass applicators which have worked extremely well. For what its worth I used the Peco product and found that it did everything that I wanted it to. Its still all work in progress and there is much more to do. In fact I'm sure that as I gain more expertise I shall go back to some of the areas that I did first and upgrade them - as Neil said it's all about the layering to get the required effects and I'm sure there is more that can be done.

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This is the view from the rear of the layout looking in the Dorchester direction. More has been done even since this photo was taken and there is a big development coming in this area in the near future. This photo highlights that I still have not been able to finish re-roofing the goods shed. It's beginning to annoy me now so I really should get on with it but imitating a large area of weathered corrugated asbestos sheeting is rather a daunting prospect!

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A similar view in the same direction but showing one of the corrugated iron huts, in this case used as a lamp hut. These were two of these at Maiden Newton and they are beautiful little 3D prints from 'Brinkley' and with a bit of careful painting really look the part. The signal box plate incidentally is a replica - I don't think my shed wall could take the weight of a cast iron original!

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Finally this close up view of the Down side waiting shelter encapsulates to me the appeal of Maiden Newton. I just love these old broad gauge era structures as they have such character and make lovely models. What is also quite remarkable is that this structure is still extant and in fact is still doing its original job and remains open for business.
 
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jonte

Western Thunderer
Hi Gerry,
Maiden Newton looks great, 7780 was also a regular on the Bridport branch.
Mark

Hallo @MarkR

Apologies for interjecting, Gerry, but MarkR I’ve just remembered to ask: did you decide one way or the other whether you intend to use Howard Scenics embossed paper?

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Hi Jonte,
No progress made, still undecided!
Mark

Hallo Mark

Funnily enough, I recall saying I doubt I’d use it again, but just to let you know I might have to eat my words, as I will require a large amount of embossed brick for the construction of viaducts, much of it radiused, and I think it the cheapest, and most user-friendly (in respect of curving) way to go!

Hope my ‘review’ of my earlier decision on your thread helps.

Jon
 

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Hi Gerry,
Maiden Newton looks great, 7780 was also a regular on the Bridport branch.
Mark
Thanks Mark.

That's exactly why I chose 7780. She wasn't on the branch in 1947 but was working from Bristol St Philips Marsh at that time. But she transferred to Weymouth in the mid 1950s and worked around the area until 1963 when her career was brought to an abrupt end when she had a too close encounter with a Standard Class 5 at Weymouth shed. I saw her on several occasions on the Bridport branch and was on the only steam worked ex GWR branch passenger train that I saw. She also worked goods trains to West Bay and I have a not very good snap that I took with my juvenile brownie camera in 1962 of her on a goods train returning from West Bay, in the Wanderwell cutting between the terminus and East St. I also saw her around the same time working on the Weymouth Harbour Tramway and also working a goods train from Weymouth to Portland. So although she is out of period I simply had to have 7780 as a reminder of those happy memories. I do have an Accurascale pannier on order though and that will be an actual Bridport engine from 1947.
 

Vectispete

Active Member
Great work Gerry.

By adding some of the scenery the atmosphere of Maiden Newton is certainly starting to show. Looks like you've got as far round as the fiddle yard/door entrance with a cutting too.

That poor old dear still hasn't got to Weymouth though, bless her!

Pete
 

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Great work Gerry.

By adding some of the scenery the atmosphere of Maiden Newton is certainly starting to show. Looks like you've got as far round as the fiddle yard/door entrance with a cutting too.

That poor old dear still hasn't got to Weymouth though, bless her!

Pete
She's lost her ticket Pete! Odd really because she's only just bought it at the Ticket Office. She's waiting for the Auto to Dorchester as its Market Day and is obviously quite early as the other passengers on what is usually a busy service haven't arrived yet!

Incidentally, when I first visited Maiden Newton station in my own right, in 1968 at the age of 16 - rather than on family trips passing through - it was still possible to buy a 3rd class single from Maiden Newton to Dorchester marked 'Gt Western Ry' - I've got one somewhere!
 
She's lost her ticket Pete! Odd really because she's only just bought it at the Ticket Office. She's waiting for the Auto to Dorchester as its Market Day and is obviously quite early as the other passengers on what is usually a busy service haven't arrived yet!

Incidentally, when I first visited Maiden Newton station in my own right, in 1968 at the age of 16 - rather than on family trips passing through - it was still possible to buy a 3rd class single from Maiden Newton to Dorchester marked 'Gt Western Ry' - I've got one somewhere!
Hi Gerry, The layout is looking good but you need to get your finger out, I have made more progress on my layout in just this year. I know you have wandered back into 4mm scale but I am still plodding away in 7mm and at present looking for a number of a Didcot 57xx with top feed. Any suggestions? John
 

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Well its been a while again! Life has well and truly got in the way of modelling over the last year or more, what with the illness and then passing of my Mother and the subsequent dealing with her affairs, planning for and getting married and then working on a book for Simon Castens, there hasn't been much time for Maiden Newton. There has been some progress in odd moments but the recent passing of Peter Squibb has focused my mind somewhat on the layout.

I've known Pete since the early 1980s and he had a significant influence on the development of my model of Maiden Newton, having actually lived there in his formative years in the 1940s. His father Bill was a railway man throughout his career, having started on the GWR as a porter at Upwey Junction in the 1930s. After several moves, as is the way with railway work, the family settled at Maiden Newton where Bill became one of the signalman working the 'box. By this time Pete was developing as a railway enthusiast and he took a great interest in the trains that passed, the locomotives working them and how the trains were operated. As his father was on the staff Pete had the run of the station and spent much time in the 'box, he knew most of the staff and he learned the Great Western way of doing things. Pete was a Great Western enthusiast par excellence and was the fourth generation to have worked on the railway - his brother Dave also joined the railway becoming an engine man at Weymouth locomotive shed. His predecessors were all GWR men but his grandfathers career was cut short by the 1914-18 war and his name appears on the GWR Roll of Honour that is still displayed at some ex GWR stations to this day - a fact that Pete was very proud of. All of this was grist to the mill to me when I met him as my interest in Maiden Newton - and the GWR in Dorset - developed. We spent many hours talking about these matters, drinking tea and eating chocolate biscuits. Pete always knew exactly what he was talking about and time with Pete was always time well spent.

He also became a modeller and like many of us welcomed the emergence of P4 and then S4, and the associated fine scale ethos, as a way of improving the standard of his modelling. Given his background, it is no surprise that he became well known for the exquisite model GWR signals that he made in 4mm scale and then later in 7mm scale also. The fact that I started modelling Maiden Newton was a source of some amusement to him but he was absolutely invaluable in passing on to me so much first hand knowledge of the way things were there in the 1940s. Eventually he made some signals for the layout and was very struck that he was building models of signals that he had worked on many years earlier in his working life as a Signal Lineman. He also saw these models as a sort of tribute to his father which he was happy about. The last item he made for Maiden Newton - and as far as I know the last modelling he did - was to make the terminal pole to stand alongside Maiden Newton signal box. I attended his funeral just last Friday and over the weekend, as a sort of tribute, I installed it after much delay. The photo shows the pole as it stands at present and I think it could do with some extra weathering, but I also think it adds a lot to the scene. The second photo is a gratuitous view of my Dean Goods taken on the same occasion just because the light was right.

Gerry

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Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Julian

Thanks for your comments and congratulations.

The book is 'Great Western Wagons in Traffic' and is a collection of photos showing wagons in use rather than ex works official portraits. Hopefully it will provide a source for those modelers who like to weather - or 'characterize' - their wagons. It is based on the collection of David Lee who started photographing GW wagons in the late 1930's and then again after WW2 and also includes some material by others of his contemporaries such as Mike Longridge, Jim Russell and Pat Garland.

Gerry
 

MervB

New Member
Fantastic model of Maiden Newton, and inspirational trains to go with it. By coincidence I was looking through old Railway Modellers in search of articles by Bob Alderman/ Yeovil MRG, (in connection with my recent post on the Yeovil coupling), and took a long diversion into Rupert Godfrey's articles from 1980/81. I then gave up and thought I'd look at the latest RM; lo and behold, an article by RG returning after 40 years ... what goes around comes around

Kind regards,

Mervyn
 

MarkR

Western Thunderer
I note that Rapido's newly announced 45xx locomotives, include both numbers 4507 and 4562, stalwarts on the Bridport Branch!
 

Gerry Beale

Western Thunderer
Yes Mark, I noticed that! That seems like more than a coincidence so I wonder what the story is? 4507 became something of a celebrity for a time but 4562 wasn't a stand out locomotive. In fact to be accurate when withdrawn she had early Churchward driving wheels with smaller cranks rather than the Collett style and I don't suppose they will be modelling that particular feature! And who knows, perhaps they will do a BR maroon B set with Bridport Branch No 1 or 2 markings on the other ends!
 
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