Bow Creek Wharf. c.1946. S7
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Not intending too much distraction from this topic but I’ve been reading it and viewing the pictures with great interest, having developed a concept for a 4mm model of the nearby Iron Bridge that was demolished in the 1930s. The centrepiece of the model would be a working model tramway across it.
The adjacent rail bridge and yard would have featured on the periphery, too. I investigated the possibility of 4mm [P4] etches for the Y4, but did not make much progress in getting a designer keen enough to take this forward. I did obtain the GERS drawings as well as a stock of wheels and castings suitable for the loco fittings, so continuing to hope!
The adjacent rail bridge and yard would have featured on the periphery, too. I investigated the possibility of 4mm [P4] etches for the Y4, but did not make much progress in getting a designer keen enough to take this forward. I did obtain the GERS drawings as well as a stock of wheels and castings suitable for the loco fittings, so continuing to hope!
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
I have been working on patterns to profile mill all the components for a Y4 in 7mm, can't say when it will be finished as it's a spare time job at the moment.
Col.
Col.
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
As with Y4's, I too have looked long and hard at this interweb thingy, typing various phrases (all of them clean, m'lud) in the hope of liberating an off the shelf solution to my LOL (Lack Of Lighter) problem. The best I came up with was this: http://www.papershipwright.co.uk/tugs-king-tut-samson/ The kit is for two tugs, but it does come with two lighters. Shame it's 1:250 (short odds..) but as (at least to me) they capture the shape of the prottype, a simple scaling factor might induce senior scale satisfaction...
Cheers
Jan
Gary Day
Member
I've just seen your photograph of Romford Coal Yard. I am currently planning a P4 layout of Romford but I am lacking information of the yard. Do you have any other photos to post?That plan is something else!
The curve from the barge bank into the warehouse reminds me of the one at Romford into the Ind Coope brewery siding. About as close to Hornby radius #1 as you'll get!
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Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Gary,
Thought I'd answer this one as Buckjumper has gone quiet at the moment so I hope all is well there ! bit concerned to be honest.
Anyway your best bet for pictures and info will be the GER society http://www.gersociety.org.uk/ that's if your not already a member.
Col.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Thanks for the heads up Tony, Fenman did beat you to it though by email, I'll be off to Smiths in due coarse.
Nice to know yer mates look out for your interest's
.Col.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Well you wouldn't believe it's year since I posted anything on Bow Creek, not much has happened to be honest what with Family ( taking care of the elders) and the day job workbench, plus some work on Love Lane.
Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining there's just more to life than one's own model railway.
Bow Creek is never far from my mind though, I have obtained some commercial road vehicle kits and various bits and pieces of track materials, so I'll post some details in the near future. I did some test work with a building using some old Howards Scenics embossed brickwork paper/card I happen to have but I was nor impressed with it and have made my mind up to have the brick buildings laser cut, especially after seeing the results on Love Lane.
One of the distractions has been the extension, or should that be expansion, of the workshop, not yet finished but water tight in time for winter.
This will know be a large enough space to not only house my machines, workbench, ( both model making and carpentry types) but I will be able to stand up Bow Creek permanently while I work on it.
Having said all that It did occur to me that with nigh on 30'-0" in length I could just fit, down the back wall, my original plan of Bow Creek Station and exchange sidings that the Wharf would have been connected to.
But....... instead of a proposed oval with one side being a storage yard/ cassettes etc. I could squeeze in a long sector plate ( 6-7 feet) off scene, long enough for the type of train consist I'm considering, with connection to storage sidings to the rear and below the level of the main layout.
This will all be in good time as the Wharf project will be developed first.......and that's after the workshop is finished
I'll post ideas and drawings/sketches soon..........
Col.
Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining there's just more to life than one's own model railway.
Bow Creek is never far from my mind though, I have obtained some commercial road vehicle kits and various bits and pieces of track materials, so I'll post some details in the near future. I did some test work with a building using some old Howards Scenics embossed brickwork paper/card I happen to have but I was nor impressed with it and have made my mind up to have the brick buildings laser cut, especially after seeing the results on Love Lane.
One of the distractions has been the extension, or should that be expansion, of the workshop, not yet finished but water tight in time for winter.
This will know be a large enough space to not only house my machines, workbench, ( both model making and carpentry types) but I will be able to stand up Bow Creek permanently while I work on it.
Having said all that It did occur to me that with nigh on 30'-0" in length I could just fit, down the back wall
, my original plan of Bow Creek Station and exchange sidings that the Wharf would have been connected to.But....... instead of a proposed oval with one side being a storage yard/ cassettes etc. I could squeeze in a long sector plate ( 6-7 feet) off scene, long enough for the type of train consist I'm considering, with connection to storage sidings to the rear and below the level of the main layout.
This will all be in good time as the Wharf project will be developed first.......and that's after the workshop is finished
I'll post ideas and drawings/sketches soon..........
Col.
Peter Insole
Western Thunderer
You won't be allowed to postpone the Creek for too long Col - I'm still looking for that lighter!!
Pete.
Pete.
Overseer
Western Thunderer
Don't want to barge in, but its not very nice to want to burn the layout before it is even finished.
I would like to see the model finished, I used to take the narrow boat out Bow Creek then round the Isle of Dogs and back to Limehouse for a jaunt every so often. Although doing it that way meant the tide was low and getting lower while winding around the creek, so not the most attractive time, to get slack water then the tide coming in on the Thames.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
......and the Thames barge and the craft tug
........unrolled the drawings for them 'n all..Col.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
No great shakes as yet with regards progress on Bow Creek but as some incentive for my self to get going I have been going through some of the research material I've collected.
This drawing keeps nagging at me to make a start on the cottages and buildings that are planned to sit on the river front to hide the sector plate at the tramway ( Boat St ) end of the layout.
I have gained some incentive from Peter Insoles work on Bagshot Station and the timber and ply construction seems to be the ideal method of building these models although some of the sections of brickwork I would like to have laser cut.
The pub at far right in this scene, 'The Angel' will not figure in this section of the layout as I plan to use a modified version of it at the other end of Boat St. as a detached building near to the yard entrance. This will act as a view blocker to where Boat St. turns away from the river front and disappears of scene to the rear of the layout.
The first building on the left appears to be derelict and this is something I'd like to replicate, with all the tiles missing and virtually all the glass smashed it will mean modelling the interiors of both the ground and first floor areas.
We are in immediate post war period, 1946, so even some bomb damaged building should be included I feel and these will be more to the rear of the layout as the river front buildings need to be as whole or intact as possible to be able to disguise the sector plate.
Col.
This drawing keeps nagging at me to make a start on the cottages and buildings that are planned to sit on the river front to hide the sector plate at the tramway ( Boat St ) end of the layout.
I have gained some incentive from Peter Insoles work on Bagshot Station and the timber and ply construction seems to be the ideal method of building these models although some of the sections of brickwork I would like to have laser cut.
The pub at far right in this scene, 'The Angel' will not figure in this section of the layout as I plan to use a modified version of it at the other end of Boat St. as a detached building near to the yard entrance. This will act as a view blocker to where Boat St. turns away from the river front and disappears of scene to the rear of the layout.
The first building on the left appears to be derelict and this is something I'd like to replicate, with all the tiles missing and virtually all the glass smashed it will mean modelling the interiors of both the ground and first floor areas.
We are in immediate post war period, 1946, so even some bomb damaged building should be included I feel and these will be more to the rear of the layout as the river front buildings need to be as whole or intact as possible to be able to disguise the sector plate.
Col.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
It'd be great to model as depicted with the tide out.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
That's all ways been the plan Dave, modeling the barge banks with the tide out will show a lot more interesting detail to my mind.
It also means that I can build the Thames barge and lighters in full
as apposed to waterline models.
Col.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
The drawing posted earlier piqued interest and came across this on the Museum of London website with an interesting rake of vans. (PLA Collection)
adrian
Flying Squad
Thanks for posting that, do you have a link? - I've just finished building 3 LNWR vans as per the first one in the photo. When I was fitting the corner plates I was having to file the corner off to fit around the buffer. There was nothing about it in the instructions so I wasn't sure if I had fitted everything correctly - so it was good to see the corner taken off on this photo.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Adrian, as requested. http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/museum-london-docklands/permanent-galleries