4mm Chris' Trainsets

Phil.c

Phil.c

Western Thunderer
Great shots Chris, nice blur around the Pannier, it's amazing how many cameo's we can get just in a small area and with just a loco and a few trucks etc.

Regarding reality, no matter how much we try there will always be something that doesn't look right, this is good to a certain extent as it makes us try even harder. I have to admit that I don't fill in my PCB timbers, but for reality, I should! Even if Chris did this and modified the wheels!!!!! There would be other things...for example, the Pannier front end, the cast edges around the firebox doors etc are over scale, only fractionally but noticable but this is nit-picking, in other words we can only go so far!

Just my two pence worth lol!

Phil
 
Chris Nevard

Chris Nevard

Western Thunderer
Thanks Phil! It's only toy trains at the end of the day, if everything was totally perfect I have a hunch I'd never do anything because I'd never be able to achieve the goal. But I'd rather do something even though it might be far from perfect, but above all have fun - with this OO trainset still being very much a work in progress.

Last night I dropped in another loading screen, this one being based on Writhlington pit; you can see it just beyond the pub. The pub is a popular one I gather, though the beer is crap - weak lemon drink being a favourite. And yes, the local Teds have pinched the lead flashing from around the chimney.

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Phil.c

Phil.c

Western Thunderer
Chris, i've been down underground a few times, but the most scariest place was the ventilation area where they have the huge fans, they are sealed rooms with airdoors and a tunnel leading to the shaft, and usually have a small viewing window in the door, the sight of this huge fan (like a waterwheel) spinning and the mist from stale air!!!

Phil
 
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Simon Dunkley

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Heather Kay said:
You know what I think it is? Steam locos tend to be wet and oily creatures. The Beattie and Pannier both look a little too dry, if you see what I mean. Like they've been in a dust storm.
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Maybe a touch of metalcote gunmetal, or just gunmetal, to suggest (oily) sludge/wetness here and there?
Chris Nevard said:
Thanks Phil! It's only toy trains at the end of the day, if everything was totally perfect I have a hunch I'd never do anything because I'd never be able to achieve the goal.
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You are Alexander the Great and I claim my £10!
But I'd rather do something even though it might be far from perfect, but above all have fun - with this OO trainset still being very much a work in progress.
Last night I dropped in another loading screen, this one being based on Writhlington pit; you can see it just beyond the pub. The pub is a popular one I gather, though the beer is crap - weak lemon drink being a favourite. And yes, the local Teds have pinched the lead flashing from around the chimney.
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The only thing which struck me as in any way out of keeping with the overall tone is the loco tyres. Not the size, but the shininess: I am of the viewpoint that shiny/gloss finishes must needs be toned down to a satin finish. All I can do here is pass on Martyn Welch's suggestion to use Birchward Casey gun blue to tone them down a bit - the trick was to polish the rims with steel wool (or a steel wire brush in a minidrill) to bring out the steel colour, whilst keeping it subdued. I have tried this. It does work, but I have yet to master the knack of getting it "just so".
Chris Nevard said:
Below, earlier today the miners' trains was spotted trundling down from Polbrook Gurney Upper Pit.
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Great angle - completely hides any "00-ness".

Hope you don't mind the comments - I love the overall tonal qualities of the colours - nicely muted - and the careful composition of the scenes as well as the pictures. I love to see 00 pushed like this: there is more to "finescale" than track*, and as with all modelling the issue is one of subterfuge and careful disguise.

*although if it was the old "Super 4" Triang track, I might suggest changing it!
 
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Simon Dunkley

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As I said, I am have not mastered Martyn's technique for the wheels - those on the right hand side of the picture are shinier than those on the left (I may have a photo somewhere of a couple of Scale 7 wagons I built for a friend, on one of which Martyn attended to the wheels) but this is a start:

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As far as I was concerned, nothing looked right until it was given a thin wash with (ordinary) gunmetal, which brought things like the plank lines into relief. The buffer heads look too dark to me: too much metal black, and not enough polishing. I can see at least three errors in the model. Some would say the biggest error was in not building more: that's a moot point, but they may have a point. No matter: things move on.

I recently exchanged virtually all of my UK outline models, mostly for US outline kits (I still have the above, which is a 1:32 scale model), so digging out any other models for photographic purposes might be difficult. Stupidly, I never took any photos of my S scale layout, before I disposed of it 15 years ago.
 
Phil.c

Phil.c

Western Thunderer
Simon, have you tried removing the gun blue with Garryflex Abrasive Blocks, I use them for my work, they are a rubber block containing an abrasive, you need the Fine, and brown in colour. You can cut them to shape so they go into difficult areas.

Phil
 
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Simon Dunkley

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Chris Nevard said:
As an antidote to all this clever in depth stuff, this is what happens when the cat gets onto the layout and has a game of wagon hockey. Beware some Peco track, flanges, crude 5 minute weathering and ghastly smoke effects - not to be taken too seriously though :)
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Looks quite realistic - reminiscent of that Goodies episode involving the (then)
Post Office Tower and Kitten Kong.

I looked hard, but I think the cat is sitting on the Peco track. I don't want to even think what flange might mean in this context.
 
Chris Nevard

Chris Nevard

Western Thunderer
I'm none too sure, one leads on the other - little rascals...

I'm sure this one has been posted before. Sorry about the lack of ballast, scenery, and yes I know that fluff can get into the mechanisms ;)

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Chris Nevard

Chris Nevard

Western Thunderer
A few extra hours were grabbed today unexpectedly which means that I've managed to pull the replacement of the engine winding house forward to before Railex which is just 3 weeks away.

This one has shades of Ludlows Colliery in the centre of the Radstock.

As usual time is the limitation and will always dictate how much time I can dedicate to a project, but I can always go back at a later stage as needed. Apart from the chimney which is a previous bit of slap dash messing about, this is about 4 hours work with foamcore, various plastic sheets and a little Das. I've since started on the roof since grabbing this snap on the mobile; which despite limited time is going to be individual slates applied from small overlapping squares of junkmail. Tthe shiny finish of such being ideal for taking paint; today the junk mail donour was some irrelevant PAYE material which we keep being sent.

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Phil.c

Phil.c

Western Thunderer
Chris,

I recollect working on the colliery yard when I was sixteen. Every morning there would be supplies to load into drams destined for underground, the districts would be marked on the sides of the drams in chalk, ie RH27, Y12 etc.

The props consisted of lengths of four feet upwards, there were also Flats ans Lags, flats were round timbers of around eight feet long and cut down the middle, hence "flats", these and Lags which were shorter and round timbers of about three feet were place between "Rings" which were curved steel "H" sections which formed an arch to hold the roof up.

Dowty and Dobson hydraulic props were also used but they were loaded from the Dowty repair shop where I also worked.

At the ends of the prop piles, between the two buildings on your picture,was usually steel "L" shaped girder sections, these acted like bookends to stop the timbers rolling away.

Phil

PS. My brother who also has a trainset is currently having etched brass sheets made of pit drams, they will be scale as I gave him the measurments from one which is in the country park opposite my house (This is where the colliery once was).

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Geoff

Geoff

Western Thunderer
A fantastic piece of modelling Chris, the subject, it's composition and colouring are spot on. Whilst the backscene rounds things off nicely by adding depth to the scene but without distracting the eye from all the interesting detail.​

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