7mm Hudswell Clarke "Italia" class 0-6-0ST

[AJC]

Like it. A good wheeze all round. I know that Ian Rathbone's book on lining recommends the use of a compass bowpen (or whatever the proper name is). The idea is that you follow the curve with the needle of the compass and draw the line parallel. Now I know dad has one of these, but even if I had learnt to use one, I'm not sure how I'd get around the chimney in this case and in 4mm...

Some of this may be the reason why I only possess one loco' with lining, and that was done with transfers.

Adam

 

[Dave]

Things are still happening with this but at a much slower pace.

The lining is complete but it's rough. I found it hard to keep the line a consistant thickness, especially on the curves. It'll all disappear under the weathering though.

The smokebox is only shiny because I'm stupid and picked the tin of gloss black, instead of the matt, without looking at what was on the tin lid.

The cast sandboxes are yet another source of trouble. The two halves of the mould must have been teribly misaligned because one half stands .5mm higher then the other, making the whole thing list to one side. This is after filing and grinding the join line to something approaching acceptable.

The (only?) preserved member of this class (w/n 1604 of 1928) has sandboxes that are circular in plan so I may turn some like that. Or make my own pair of rectangular boxes from plasticard.

 

[46444]

Now that's looking really good.

I like the lining-it adds to the charm of this loco. Nice work as ever.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[7mmMick]

Another way of looking at it Dave is you could have done an absolute A one, Rathbone-esk type job and then weather it as per the picture and hardly see the lining and be disappointed you lost nearly all of it. I think if the start is anything to go by she'll look cracking finished, a grimy powerful little workhorse. Looking forward to it, I never really took much notice of Industrial stuff I have to say but a few threads on here ( yours included ) have really inspired me. I can feel a private siding coming on !

ATB Mick

 

[Dog Star]

. I can feel a private siding coming on...

Just make sure that Private Siding is liveried appropriately.

 

[Dave]

I never really took much notice of Industrial stuff I have to say but a few threads on here ( yours included ) have really inspired me. I can feel a private siding coming on !

ATB Mick

If I can lure just one person away from the copper-capped ranks and into the filth and grime of industrial railways then it's all been worthwhile.

 

[7mmMick]

Just make sure that Private Siding is liveried appropriately.

If I can lure just one person away from the copper-capped ranks and into the filth and grime of industrial railways then it's all been worthwhile.

I wouldn't know where to start to be honest Graham and i've always had a fondness for the filth and grime, I just wasn't sure it extended beyond the Yorkshire Coal Fields What's next on the bench Dave just out of curiosity?

ATB Mick

 

[Dave]

Hi Mick,

Next up is a Rolls Royce/Sentinel 0-4-0DH, a Judith Edge kit.

No pics but before I went to work this morning I made the lower half of the Hudswell's boiler barrel from a Jaffa Cakes packet as the supplied one was too short. So it's no longer just a brass kit.

 

[Dave]

Almost there now. I've had most of the weekend to work on this so all that remains is to fit a decoder (and hope it runs after all this!), make and fit some window bars for the rear of the cab, add some bits and pieces (oil cans, fire irons etc.) and to finish the weathering. I've already done some weathering on the bufferbeams and the cab steps.

As you will notice, I have made and fitted a pair of circular sand boxes. I was going to line them but decided it would be a bit OTT.

 

[Dave]

It lives!

Gaugemaster DCC26 decoder fitted and some light weathering done. It runs quite well even though it's not run in at all yet.

Some name plates would be the finishing touch, I think.

I've been given the email of an outfit called Guilplates. I've yet to contact them but does anyone know how one is supposed to go about providing them with a design?

 

[AJC]

Looks very good Dave. I've used Guilplates in the past and found them very good. I think he's reasonably well up on the house styles of different industrial manufacturers (I simply explained I was after an RSH style plate and got exactly what I was after with reference to a link to a prototype shot I think), but asking him is the easiest way forward.

Adam

 

[Dave]

Thanks, Adam. I'm thinking of having one of those where the number is on a second row under the name. The name should be something graceful and poetic, something such as "Tar Distillation Products No.4"

 

[Simon]

That looks really good, I'd be very pleased if I'd produced that myself - wonderful!

Its great to see someone doing the industrial scene some serious modelling justice

Simon

 

[46444]

Morning Dave,

Nice looking build Dave and I think a video is needed to show her in her true light.

As for nameplates I've used Narrow Planet who specialise in custom nameplates of all scales. The service is excellent and the prices are reasonable too so may be worth emailing Steve to see what he can do. Here's the link:

http://www.narrowplanet.co.uk/

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Dave]

Thanks, Mark. I'll look into it at some point.

 

[John Baker]

There's nothing special here, or anything you don't already know about building brass kits, but I'm posting this simply to prove that I actually build the stuff I post in the gallery and that I don't have someone build it all for me (I wish I could afford to!) or have the magic loco kit fairies visit, so here is my current work-in-progess...

It's an Agenoria Models kit of what the blurb describes as an Italia class Hudswell Clarke, although I can find no loco so named in the works list contained in Ron Redman's book The Railway Foundry Leeds 1839-1969.

The kit is meant to build into the WC&P's Walton Park and is provided with name plates, but I'm not modelling the WC&P so my loco will be an anonymous version and, possibly, with a few alterations to suit other locos of the type that I have seen in photos in various books.

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Rivets dimpled out, buffer beams soldered on, overlays for springs soldered on and springs bent up.

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Cab assembled. I'm using resistance soldering for the first time and I'm impressed with how little cleaning up is neccessary. This picture is as put together - no cleaning has been done at all in this pic.

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Screws to fix frames to bodywork soldered in and cab fitted to running plate.

I was going to build the saddletank but the wrapper is missing from the kit. I've sent an email off and am awaiting a response.

Just joined Western Thunder, so I'm a few years behind on this thread! Funny you should say that one of the wrappers in missing......I've just bought a Hudswell Clark 0-6-0 Canal tank (the short tank variety) from Agenoria, and both the smokebox wrapper and the firebox wrapper are missing. Not packages particularly well, and some parts are bent/creased. Wasn't massively impressed for my first dealing with him!

That being said, the kit itself is going together quite nicely, and the instructions are fairly user friendly.

 

[Martin Field]

I read of these shortcomings often with p/e kits. Considering the price asked for them, any of them, is t not time buyers got a bit heavy with the suppliers and said, as my dad would have, "Oi! Winkle, Nark it!" "I didn't pay to do half of it meself". Of course neither my dad or I would ever be in that position as we'd always make it ourselves. It gives you the most wonderful control, but i do think the time is right to call these errant producers to book, or insist on a huge discount for doing so much of it yourself.

 

[adrian]

I read of these shortcomings often with p/e kits. Considering the price asked for them, any of them, is t not time buyers got a bit heavy with the suppliers

It's got to be a balanced though as many manufacturers are just trying to make suitable kits for the modeller to the best of their ability - they certainly aren't doing it for the money. One manufacturer got a bad review of his kit (not on here I hasten to add!), overall it was by all accounts a pretty decent well detailed kit but the reviewer didn't like certain aspects of the kit and was fairly critical. The manufacturer decided he didn't need the hassle and just stopped selling the kits, to the loss of many modellers who would have been able to make use of the kit.

I think the best we can do is publicise information about kits. Post information about the good kits so people know what they are getting and as long as it is fair and reasonable show where kits are lacking, hopefully point out how to correct it as well. that's what I have tried to do the JLTRT 3F kit I'm building, certain aspects are wrong, probably working from the best information at the time. It's a reasonable kit and with a little tweaking can be improved.

With respect to the Agenoria kits it has often been pointed out that the early Peter Stamper kits (upto the mid 40's numbering Jinty/) were well designed, went together well and are to be recommended, I believe this to be one of those. The latter ones designed by the current owner were somewhat more of a problem to build and do have a poor reputation.

 

[Martin Field]

My point is not to slag off a kit in public, but have a strict word with the producer. THEN, if he ignores you, slag him off in public. He will have had his warning and his opportunity to answer the criticisms, but if he wriggles like the BBC do on Points of View, keep slagging him off! Missing major parts is appalling. Aren't they attached to the main frets? Creased frets, broken parts? That ain't acceptable at all and an email or phone call to the producer should result in an apology and an immediate recompense.
I have been a producer of high end model car kits and lineside accessories and I WAS doing it for the money, so I had an interest in keeping the customer satisfied and dealing quickly with any missing items. I never had a complaint.

 

[Simon]

Just joined Western Thunder, so I'm a few years behind on this thread! Funny you should say that one of the wrappers in missing......I've just bought (direct from Mike Williams) a Hudswell Clark 0-6-0 Canal tank (the short tank variety), and both the smokebox wrapper and the firebox wrapper are missing. Not packages particularly well, and some parts are bent/creased. Wasn't massively impressed for my first dealing with him!

That being said, the kit itself is going together quite nicely, and the instructions are fairly user friendly.

Hopefully he replaced or re-supplied the items once you contacted him?

Apologies for being pedantic, but I think you ought to say in the interest of fairness etc.

Simon