Michaels 7mm LMS 13ton mineral wagon (MMP kit)

Discussion in 'GB1. The 4 Plank or Greater Wagon Build' started by michl080, 17 March 2018.

  1. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    weekend update...

    things are progressing nicely. All parts fit nicely together, the floor and the planks are attached.
    There is still a lot to do, but the basic shape is already visible (if such a simple wagon has any...).
    I will need to fit the remaining brass on top of the walls and the hinges below the side doors. In between, I am already practicing writing with white drawing ink in fine scale. My old Rotring pens from my student time are surprisingly still working after 30 years, however writing "LMS 609856" in 1.5mm size will be a challenge.

  2. Overseer

    Overseer Western Thunderer

    Looks very good. The wooden planks look just right and the scale size nuts were well worth the effort. A big improvement over the standard kit.
  3. Brian McKenzie

    Brian McKenzie Western Thunderer

    I'm intrigued with your soldering jig. Is this something you have made, and perhaps for use with resistance soldering?
    I can see that the arms will slide down the threaded rods under their own weight - or be positioned using the nuts.

    Thanks, Brian
  4. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    Brian, these hooks are from Soldering Hook - Buy now » fohrmann.com . They solve the problem of having not enough hands for soldering. The hooks have a tip that is pushed into the holes of the ceramic soldering plate. The arm is pushed down onto the part you want to fix. It can slide freely on the threaded part, but it stays in position if it is pushed down. Both parts tilt and hold the arm safely in position. The nuts are to release the arm but are normally not needed.
    I use it with my RSU, that's why the aluminium foil is below the components.

    The site cited above has also a little video Löten & Hartlöten: Die Hilfsmittel für ein perfektes Detailergebnis ✓ - YouTube

    Not cheap, but worth the money.

    btw. they fit perfectly to the common 2mm hole soldering plates that are sold cheaply at ebay.

  5. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    well, well, well,

    some days are different!

    A couple of days ago I wrote the LMS logo and the serial number onto the wagon with quite poor result. Nevermind, overpainting it black and purchasing some matching slides will solve that problem.
    But today, I was trying to paint the white stripe on the wagon which went fairly well. Then I had the brilliant idea to draw the black line that borders the white area with chinese ink with one of my old drawing pens. This is the result...
    The ink was drawn into the wood, so that the line is very fuzzy where it should be nicely defined.

    I will leave it for today. As I will be leaving for a business trip to the United States on Sunday, I will not be able to finish the build as planned until June, 30th. I will see what I can do in 10 days time from now.

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  6. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    I had some time to think how to fix that mess and it turned out easier than expected. The black strip is only marignally wider to cover the ink in the wood. Still looks ok.
    In between, I decided to overpaint the LMS label and the wagon number and fet some Cambridge Custom Transfer waterslides. They seem to be part of a larger pack. The problem is that I get no feedback from Mr. Isherwood. Is he still in business? Could it be possible that he won't do any oversee business? Any information would be highly appreciated.

    Sorry, no pictures today, it's too hot.

  7. TheSnapper

    TheSnapper Western Thunderer

    Hi Michael

    Let me know if you have no joy with John Isherwood. I can obtain the sheet you want & send it to you.

    Having said that you'll end-up with a lot more than you need.

    Have you tried Fox Transfers:
    Fox Transfers specialise in model railway vinyl stickers and transfers

    or perhaps Railtec:
    Railtec Transfers - waterslide model railway transfers (decals) for 4mm/OO gauge, 2mm/N gauge, 7mm/O gauge and all other gauges and hobbies

    Or better still an appeal on here for spare transfers that no-one wants!


  8. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    CCT is still going and John is normally fairly good with email.

    Exactly what information do you want about the CCT transfers? They are, as you surmise, part of a larger pack, sufficient for however many wagons it says in the description with all the numbering/lettering required in Gill Sans (for BR period wagons). If you want LMS lettering you will need to go elsewhere because John doesn't do that: his choice, reflecting his modelling interests. I'm not quite sure where that would be - HMRS? Or Fox, perhaps?

  9. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    Tim, thanks for the very friendly proposal and the links. I believe I didn't check Fox at the first search, but I did now and found a set that seems suitable for the job.

    Adam, thanks for your comment about CCT and the LMS. It made me wonder and I noticed that the set is not "for LMS...", but "for BR, exLMS..." which is unfortunately not exactly what I am looking for.

    Thanks all of you. After a few busy weeks with office trouble, intercontinental travel and a sick week, I will start to relax for some days. See you soon,
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  10. michl080

    michl080 Western Thunderer

    slightly delayed, but finally ready!

    I received the matching set of fox-transfers a couple of days ago and attached them on the wagon. The result looks very nice.




    and here with applied brakes


    This kit was really fun to build. I have to thank David J. Parkins for his beatiful kit and I hope that he is not too upset that I have left the proposed path using wood planks for the body.
    I hope you like it.

    Last edited: 3 September 2018