Nick Dunhill's Workshop - FR Double Fairlie from an EDM Kit.

Nick Dunhill

Western Thunderer
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It's new job week. This time into the world of narrow gauge. I'm told the EDM Kit is a decent one so off we go.

I started, as usual, by making the rods. Easy enough...

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I followed the instructions provided as a pdf download from Paul Martin's website. The kit comes with a CD that has the instructions uploaded onto it. It might as well have been on a cassette because only Martin Chuzzelwit has a CD reader these days, and when I borrowed one it wouldn't read the CD anyway.

The chassis was easy to build.

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Layering up the chassis cleverly creates horn guides for the axleboxes. I dropped the axleboxes in their slots and inserted jury axles. I offered up the coupling rods and their centres did not match those of the axleboxes. I did a bit of filing so that the axleboxes could find their own centres using the rods as a jig.

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I made my own horncheeks (1 x 1 mm L section) to locate the axleboxes, and dispensed with the kit system of setting the ride height using spring steel and holes in a bracket. I made some brackets with 14 BA screws to adjust the correct height. If anyone has a drawing of the loco with the ride height of the chassis shown could you get in touch?

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The kit seems quite comprehensive and covers all the variants, so let's see where we go next week.

See you at Wigan tomorrow, I'm Scratchbuilding demo and Technical Help guy. D5.
 

Nick Dunhill

Western Thunderer
We left it last week with assembled chassis with modified axle horns and height adjusters. I began the week looking to install the wheels. The kit comes with Alan Gibson wheels specifically designed for this kit. They are a press fit on OO axles (16.5 mm gauge) and the instructions stress that the wheels cannot repeatedly be removed and reinstalled as the interference fit will be lost. However you have to quarter the wheels yourself, and the instructions do recommend a press and quartering tool made by GW Models. This was out of stock, but luckily I have a fair amount of experience of quartering wheels by eye.

I made an NGG16 loco with these wheels in the past and realised that I'd better make up the gearbox first, as it is captive in one of the wheelsets, along with a pair of axleboxes and shims to limit end float. Each bogie is an 0-4-0, so no endfloat is required on any of the axles.

First the gearbox. The kit has an etched gearbox chassis, a set of spur and final drive gears, some bearings and spacers and a worm for the small Mashima motor, also supplied. I looked at the components and the suggested way of assembling them, and folded up the gearbox etch. The instructions suggest that the two spur gears are to be mounted on a 2 mm rod, leaving it free to turn on the rod, and some spacers installed to keep the gear in the correct position to engage with the adjacent gears. The spacers looked suspiciously like top hat bearings, and the gears wobbled about a fair bit on the shaft. I realised that if I used a rod with a slightly bigger diameter the gear would be a nice press fit (no wobbling) and the spacers could be repurposed as bearings in the etched chassis. I mounted both (nylon or similar) spur gears using the revised method. I had to make some distance pieces from brass tube, but the spur gears meshed very nicely. I also had to open out the intermediate shaft holes in the gearbox chassis to accept the 'top hat bearings', solder them in and ream them out to accept the slightly bigger shafts.

I soldered the bearings in the gearbox for the final drive gear, rims inside as recommended, and shortened the bearings so they'd fit snugly between the axleboxes. The final drive gear was different from the item shown in the illustrations in the instructions. The original gears had to be Loctited (!!) to the axle when all was assembled, and the one supplied had a grub screw. A definite upgrade! HOWEVER, the new gear was too wide to fit between the bearings. I had to cut a slice off the gear side of the wheel.

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The modifications were successful though, and a very nice running and strong gearbox was the result. When running at a decent speed the axle could not be stopped by hand! I did make another modification to turn the motor through 80 degrees so that I could cut off the 'ears' to which the motor is screwed. This allowed the gearbox to pass through the chassis and be removed for paint. This will make the painter very happy.

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The motor is wonky because the motor fixing screw interfered with one of the spur gears.

Flushed with success I looked at making the second gearbox and paused. The first one is easily powerful enough to power the loco and pull a decent train, and the DCC will be easier to tune with only one motor. I didn't bother making the second gearbox, and decided to make one of the chassis free wheel.

After the extensive mods to the gearbox pressing the wheelsets together was a mere bagatelle (done in my drill press). I did have to take lots of measurements and install the appropriate amount of shims to limit end float, and quarter the wheels by eye, but quickly ended up with some free running, unbinding chassis. Beer was imbibed.

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The cylinders were easy to make as the etches were very good, the slidebars were laminated etches and fitted very nicely into the crossheads and piston rod gland castings with only minimal fettling. I bought some Ffestiniog Chopper couplings from the 7 mm NG Association which looked good. I mounted the mechanical lubricators on the motion brackets and made an operating mechanism attached to the inner axles.

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Next week I should be able to button the chassis up quickly and move on to the body. So far I'm enjoying this build. The kit is good and it is well detailled.
 

PaulRhB

Active Member
I think the reason for the twin bogie drive is the propensity to build a lot of O16.5 kits from whitemetal when it was designed so the trains can get very heavy and then the 8 wheels provide the traction rather than needing more power. If the stock is etched that’s not so much of a problem :)
 

Nick Dunhill

Western Thunderer
I have been contacted by EDM Models to say that there had been no reports of misalignment between the rod and axlebox centres on any of the 50 or so kits he knows have been built. I decided to investigate further, and found a significant issue with the wheel bearings/axleboxes supplied with the kit.

As can be seen in the photos above the axleboxes are square machinings with slots milled up two opposite edges into which the chassis engages. The milled slots in the axleboxes had unfortunately been milled slightly offset as below:

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As can be seen the slots should be milled to an equal gap on both sides (upper) and were unfortunately offset (lower). This of course had introduced a misalignent. I corrected this by offsetting the horns in the chassis and soldering in new guides made from 1 x 1 mm L section. The revised set up does now rely on the axleboxes going back into the same horns in the same orientation.

Problem solved. EDM's etchings were fine but the axleboxes introduced an offset.
 
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