7mm On Heather's Workbench - small and perfectly formed

[SimonT]

Preserved loco's can truly mislead. For variety, I wanted a 52XX with inside steam pipes and no bunker tail light extension (e.g flat topped bunker). Eventually I found a photo of one that had been at the appropriate depots at the right time, sat at Woodhams. You could clearly see the flat top bunker. The loco now runs with a tail light extension. Unfortunately I couldn't down load a copy of the photo to have it available to show Whistey when he says "Did you know that ...".

Graham, thank you for saving me from a senior moment on the sight feed lubricator; I had been looking at my 64XX and Heathers casting thinking something was wrong but not being able to say what!
Simon

 

[Dog Star]

Graham, thank you for saving me from a senior moment on the sight feed lubricator; I had been looking at my 64XX and Heathers casting thinking something was wrong but not being able to say what!

It was only when Heather provided a hi-res image of sprue 1 that the penny dropped - this sprue is intended generally for large(r) tender engines and not required for a 5700 class. Thereupon a re-evaluation of sprue 3 took place and the decision reached that this was from a 517 SDK and does have a 3-sight feed lub on the sprue, just not decipherable from the initial image posted to this topic. If the packing dept. works as well with for kits then I pity anyone who buys a Castle SDK and gets clack valves for a backplate.

By good fortune I had some of the castings in Heather's pikkies - there is a Star SDK here and I was able to find some identical castings to resolve some questions.

Happy to help others who find themselves in a similar position.

 

[OzzyO]

Hello Heather, all,

have you got all of the parts identified?

Looking at the part top right on 12 it could be the lever reverse.
Two photos of back-heads that may help you, the first is a 44xx


and the second of a 517,
View attachment 29427


The 517 had a single sight feed lub that was mounted on the cab-front plate as in these photos.


The condenser coil was also mounted on the cab front plate.

HTH

OzzyO.

 

[Heather Kay]

Looking at the part top right on 12 it could be the lever reverse.

If that's so, then it is not needed on this voyage. Graham and I were leaning more toward being the lever you've noted as being the sanding gear operating lever, which sits just ahead of the reversing lever assembly. The instructions also show a longer lever, which sits on the fireman's side, the purpose of which currently eludes me.

It's all very complicated, and I am looking forward to assembling it. Today I have been mostly cleaning up and drilling out the castings.

 

[OzzyO]

Hello Heather,

pop a copy of the instruction drawing up so that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

OzzyO.

 

[Heather Kay]

Here we go. Apologies if the sizing is a bit off. I have a new iGizmo, which means I don't have the full panoply of image editing available to me.

 

[Dave Bowden]

Hi Heather
Have you seen this method of fixing a cab roof. This is how Lionheart does their 77xx

These are rare earth magnets which I bought from Ebay, 20 for £2.89!
My model is a Springside 64xx and white metal but it would be fine on etched brass.
The metal L shaped pieces are from a bake bean tin, thin and light.



Dave

 

[Heather Kay]

Food for thought there, Dave. I shall ponder - bearing in mind the only obvious place to clip the roof on the 5700 with the earlier cab style is the front panel and the front part of the side panels. I could possibly put a clip dead centre on the back panel.

Actually, that's given me an idea.

 

[Heather Kay]

Right, the old back is none the worse for its day out to Kettering. I managed most of a full day at the workbench, concentrating on the various pipes attached to the backhead.



This is more or less where things are now, being a dry fit for spacing earlier this afternoon. The clacks and pipes are formed, the brake combination apparatus has been fettled, holes made for the various castings. Since this photo, I've attached the oil boxes, and begun to work out the steam fountain and W valve.

 

[Hester]

I like the new Slaters motor/gearbox combinations.

ABC are very good too, and the ex-Ron Chaplin ones are available via MSC....at a good discount for some society members.

Both of the last two have a very wide range of motor choice too.

Hi Alcazar, Can I just ask what happened to Ron Chaplin motor/gearboxes, are they still around ? Hester.

 

[OzzyO]

Hi Alcazar, Can I just ask what happened to Ron Chaplin motor/gearboxes, are they still around ? Hester.

Try here

 

[Hester]

Try here

View attachment 29564

Thank you

 

[alcazar]

beat me to it Ozzy. MSC now does them, with discounts for some society members, as I mentioned in my original post.

 

[Heather Kay]

It's slow old work, these cab fittings. I have, however, learned a lot.



I need confirmation of where the "pep pipe" fitted on the far cab side sheet. There's a bit of lubricator piping to fit on the right of the cab front plate, and I need to fabricate the condenser coils up under the roof.

Meanwhile...



Things are a bit spartan on the back plate. Does anyone have a reasonably clear idea of the "coal hole" latch mechanism, or even if it folded with central hinges?

I am very tempted to set about detailing the tank/boiler area for some light relief!

 

[john lewsey]

That really does look good Heather

 

[Eastsidepilot]

Excellent work Heather

Col.

 

[7mmMick]

Very Nice indeed, these are the best bits and for me really bring things alive,

Mick

 

[Heather Kay]

I keep saying it: know your prototype. It is just a shame I don't listen to my own good advice.

Some way back in this thread I described fitting the cab opening beading. I confidently stated the beading on the etch was the wrong kind. It was me that was wrong. Idly inspecting the few images showing 57s in nearly as-built condition, I noticed the leading cab door handrail is inboard of the door, as would be the case on an open cab tender loco. D'oh!

Of course, I have removed the handrail fitting. And drilled holes for the later style of handrail which seems to have been a retrofit to the earlier members of the class some time later. D'oh, again!

So, I have filled the holes, and managed to fabricate something to mount the handrails as per prototype which doesn't look too bad viewed from a distance, with one eye closed.

While I was at it, I took the plunge with the pep pipe.



A tiny brass casting, with a copper wire to represent the feed pipe from wherever it came from, and a thicker copper wire, suitably marked to represent the spring-wound hose, casually draped over the tap.

Just the hydrostatic lubricator pipework, the ATC gear, and the condensers. Nearly there.

 

[Steph Dale]

Hmm,

I didn't realise there were Pannier tanks in Australia too.

Looks good, Heather, well worth the effort.

Steph
(turning his monitor upside-down to see the photo...)

 

[alcazar]

Aaaargh, it's making me feel sick, turn it right way up.!