Paul’s GER workbench. Building the MOK BR 4MT 2-6-4T kit.

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Western Thunderer
Hello everyone, as this is my first posting, perhaps a brief introduction is called for.

I have been a lurker on this site since January, but as I have had nothing to show you and not much to say or contribute, I did not want to waste your time, until now.

As with most of us I have been making models of one kind or another since I was old enough to use scissors and glue on cereal packets. Working through ‘Micromodels’, ‘KeilKraft’  and ‘Airfix’ kits  But then I am old enough, just, to remember seeing A4’s, in Garter Blue with stainless steel, bursting out of the Hadley Wood tunnels.

My background is in the aviation business, having served my time at deHavillands. Astwick Manor Ae.T.S.  Since then I have worked on many airplanes including, Mosquitos, Spitfires, Tiger Moths, Piper Cubs and a host of other light aircraft.  Additionally I worked for many years in the advertising, TV  and commercial world building models and film props.

My main interest in the railway world is in Scale7, LSWR and the locomotives of William Adams.  Of course there are other favourites too, such as the BR 9F, Wainwright D class, McIntosh Dunalastair II, others too numerous to mention and even some Great Western types.

The current ‘great project’ is restoring a watermill for habitation, so you will understand that modelling time is somewhat limited.  However the management has kindly decreed that Sunday shall be modelling day, so a start has been made on the BR 4MT tank.

We are situated in the empty quarter of Northern France and I am fortunate enough to have built up a reasonably well equipped dedicated workshop.  With three mills, one a Taylor Hobson JH (as recommended by Tony Reynalds), lathes, pillar drills, grinders, bead blast cabinet, compressors, air brushes and larger spray guns. I still have a 4 ton fly press from my ‘live steam’ days. Soldering is catered for with a gas torch, temperature controlled iron and a resistance unit.  Though I still have my trusty 40w Weller somewhere.

The title of this thread is interesting but could be somewhat misleading, until, that is, you understand that the GER referred to is not the well known railway company but the name of the village in which we live.  So if you find yourself wandering around in the leafy Boccage area, do feel free to drop in and share a few glasses of red with us.

For those of you who know  Garrison Keillor and his stories of ‘Lake Wobegon’, our tales of the watermill could easily begin…”Nothing much happened in Ger this week” in fact that could well be my sign-off line!

The BR 4MT 2-6-4T build will follow shortly.
 

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Western Thunderer
OK so lets give it a go.  Here is a picture or two of the workbench with the 4MT under way.

The pliers are to show the type recommended by Dave Sharp.  His view is that the broad flat nose ones are superior to the pointed ones, for twisting the tabs.
 

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Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Welcome Paul, I almost feel I know you well. You have featured in many of the email conversations that Graham and I have had over a few months. :thumbs: :thumbs:
 

28ten

Guv'nor
Welcome along Paul  :wave:
Is the tidy workbench a indication of slow progress or a tidy worker?  :)) it is certainly an impressive collection of machinery.
 

westernfan

Western Thunderer
Hi Paul and welcome  :wave:

              mmmm 9fs and dehavilland mossies thats got to be two of Britians finest
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
Welcome aboard from me too.  :wave:
This all looks like proper modelling going on here  :bowdown:  so as usual I'll just sit quietly and  :drool: from the Back of the Class.
I promise not to fidget.... ::)
 

Purple-haze

Western Thunderer
Hi Paul, I've been lurking for a lot longer than that and I have nothing to show but its good fun on here! Budge up Jordan----- I've got the pineapple rock

regards

Rog
 

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Western Thunderer
Well I am totally overwhelmed.  Thank you all for such a super welcome.  Once that I get fully used to replying, with your quotes, I will reply to you individually.

All that I can do at the moment is say thank you, thank you thank you, it is much appreciated.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Ought I to recognise those wheels in your profile image?

You will fit in here, especially once you admit to building a 7mm Class 08....  just wait for a deafening chant about the only suitable colour for a diseasel.

As for the 4MT, compensation or springs for the coupled axles?

regards, Graham
 

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Western Thunderer
Now this is where the story really starts.

I had fancied building the 4MT as soon as it was announced that there was going to be a dedicated Scale7 version.  Now the kit is not cheap to start with and the Scale7 option is an extra £50 quid.  However I finally succumbed and was not disappointed when I saw the kit in all it's glory.  Now I am sure that many, if not all of you, are familiar with MOK kits.  But one cannot overstate the quality and quantity of the lost wax castings, truely gorgeous.

It was at this juncture that I decided that, for a kit of this quality, only the best would, so I called Alan Harris to order the castings for the wheels.  Unfortunately Alan has not been well of late so has got a little behind and the wheels were out of stock. Added to which it would be some time before he managed to get round to making the waxes and getting the next batch off to the foundry. So with a long wait impending I thought that I would use Slaters wheels.

Next to be ordered was the gearbox and motor from abc.  Now I prefer to have the version with ball races, however this does not fit the motor cradle provided in the kit.  The cradle had been specifically designed for the plain bearing gearbox.  At this point I made a decision to build the kit straight 'out of the box'.  This also meant not fitting ball races to the axle bearings.  All this means that when the wheels do arrive from Alan I will have to build another 4MT incorporating all the items that I would really like to have.

There is, I understand, on another website somewhere, another MOK 4MT being built, with ball bearings in the hormblocks. I will have to have a peep and make notes !

OK enough chat, lets get down to work, so far I have cut out the frames, hornguides, compensating beams,spacers and the motor mount and cradle. And the ashpan. Now this it a wonderous little assembly of eleven pieces all tabbed together.  It is really a bit of an initiative test and quite delightful. Bear in mind that it fits between the frames so is only about 28mm wide.  Here are some pictures of a frame with a couple of hornguides and the compensation beam on it's bearing.  The horn guides are tabbed and fit into a half etch so it all lines up without the need for a jig. Which is a shame as I have bought a MasterJig, however it will come in usefull for other locos I am sure. All the soldering so far has been with my Sievert jewellers burner using Carrs solder cream. As you can see the tabs and slots for the hornguides are asymetrical so you cannot get one in the wrong place.

The ashpan will be soldered the same way.

Once soldered the tabs are removed and the area filed flat.  Had it been down to me I would probably either filed them off or used the piercing saw.  Dave Sharp told me he just twist them off with the pliers.  This I did and there was very little filing to do. Quite a brilliant  and quick solution.

One thing worth mentioning, to make sure all the tabs entered the slots nicely I filed a slight taper on each face of each tab, sounds labourious but only takes a second or two in reality. Up to now I have had no problems at all with the tabs fitting perfectly.
 

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Western Thunderer
Dog Star said:
Ought I to recognise those wheels in your profile image?

You will fit in here, especially once you admit to building a 7mm Class 08....  just wait for a deafening chant about the only suitable colour for a diseasel.

As for the 4MT, compensation or springs for the coupled axles?

regards, Graham


Yes Graham you certainly should, you made the track!!!

Secondly, I admit to nothing, especially anything to do with diesiesels.

As to the suspension, compensation on this one, as that is how the kit is designed.  Mods come on the next one!!
 

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Western Thunderer
westernfan said:
Hi Paul and welcome  :wave:

              mmmm 9fs and dehavilland mossies thats got to be two of Britians finest

Yes I think that they are also, but I have yet to see a 9F built of plywood and balsa ;D
 

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Western Thunderer
Jordan said:
Welcome aboard from me too.  :wave:
This all looks like proper modelling going on here  :bowdown:  so as usual I'll just sit quietly and  :drool: from the Back of the Class.
I promise not to fidget.... ::)

Proper modelling, that implies that there is also 'improper modelling'.  That could interest me I don't doubt.  ;)
 

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Western Thunderer
28ten said:
Welcome along Paul  :wave:
Is the tidy workbench a indication of slow progress or a tidy worker?  :)) it is certainly an impressive collection of machinery.

Sorry but I didn't think that the bench was tidy.  For me that is a mess!

The machines only become impressive when you have learnt to use them.  You should see some of the messes that I make.
 

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Western Thunderer
Dog Star said:
You just need to ensure that every day is a Sunday...  seems fair enough given the prediliction of the French for days off of work.

Good to see you here Paul, regards, Graham

I wish !!  One Sunday is all that I am allowed  :(

As to the French, they get seven weeks paid holiday a year, so it only seems that they never work.

Thanks for the welcome.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Locomodels said:
I have yet to see a 9F built of plywood and balsa ;D

Model Railway Constructor (Aaahhh!, as in DH-aaahh  :thumbs:) in the early 1960s and then in a recent MRJ...  ok card and shellac, will that do?

I thought that the track might be LSWR 24ft, just not sure as to the wheels.

regards, Graham
 
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