PhilH
Western Thunderer
This topic starts with a rather pessimistic note - I don't think there's a great deal of interest on WT in industrial railways, so it may not go very far. Anyway just to test this out for my own curiosity I've decided to post a few photos and the first batch are of ex mainline railway company locos in industrial service. These are posted in order of date taken, so the selection may seem rather random at times.
Information in the captions is largely from Industrial Railway Society records, some published and some unpublished.
In August 1961 I arranged a visit with a friend to Bowaters narrow gauge system at Sittingbourne in Kent. At Ridham Dock we were taken to the standard gauge loco shed where the working loco JUBILEE, a Bagnall 0-4-0ST new to Bowaters in 1936, pulled out the spare loco for us to photograph. This was an ex SECR P Class 0-6-0T obtained from BR (31178) in June 1958 and painted in SECR livery with the name PIONEER II on the side tanks (There was an earlier PIONEER, an elderly Hunslet 0-4-0ST built in 1867 acquired secondhand in 1942 and scrapped in 1954). The P Class later went to the Bluebell Railway in 1969 and ran for a short period in SECR livery with the PIONEER II name. The Bagnall was also preserved and is currently at the East Anglian Railway Museum, Chappel & Wakes Colne Station.
The steam locos were replaced by diesels in 1968/9, again ex BR in the form of Class 04 Nos. D2228 and D2258, and later in 1977 by 08596.
LMS 0-6-0ST 11456 (ex L&Y 752) was sold to the Blainscough Colliery Co. Ltd. in May 1937 for use at their Welch Whittle Colliery, near Coppull. The colliery was connected to the LMS West Coast Mainline by a 1½ mile line running south west from a connection ½ mile north of Coppull Station. 11456 was still at Welch Whittle on vesting day (1/1/1947) but then had spells at Chisnall Hall Colliery, just to the south of Welch Whittle, and the Standish System which served several collieries nearer Wigan. In December 1958 it went from Chisnall Hall to the NCB Wigan Area's Kirkless Workshops in Wigan for repair. It was ex works in October 1959 in the Wigan Area livery of Green tank, boiler and wheels; Black cab; Red frames, coupling rods, footplate valances and steps. Throughout its NCB career it retained its LMS number, and this was painted in large red numerals on the cab sides. Unfortunately after this repair, as one visitor to Kirkless was told, no colliery would have it. Maybe it was considered too large and with too long a wheelbase for general colliery use. The previous 3 colliery systems it worked at all had fairly length lines connecting with BR, but Welch Whittle was due for closure and closed at the end of 1959, Chisnall Hall had recently received an Austerity 0-6-0ST newly repaired at Kirkless and the Standish System was dieselised in 1958 with two new Yorkshire 0-6-0DEs. After sitting in the yard at Kirkless for about 3 months it was sent to the nearby Ince Moss Colliery for storage. In October 1961 it was sent to Parsonage Colliery, Leigh, where it would have seen some use, then a brief visit to Bickershaw to cover a shortage, but quickly returned to Parsonage because it was not considered suitable. By March 1963 it was out of use at Parsonage with a burst tube which was possibly never repaired and it certainly appeared to have been out of use for some time when I took the above photo in July1964. Parsonage also had two diesels available by that date.
After sale for preservation it left Parsonage in 1968 and spent 3 years in storage at Yates Duxbury's Heap Bridge Paper Mills, one of the last users of industrial steam locos in the Northwest, before arriving at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway in November 1971. It is currently resident at the East Lancashire Railway in non-authentic BR livery as 51456.
Information in the captions is largely from Industrial Railway Society records, some published and some unpublished.
In August 1961 I arranged a visit with a friend to Bowaters narrow gauge system at Sittingbourne in Kent. At Ridham Dock we were taken to the standard gauge loco shed where the working loco JUBILEE, a Bagnall 0-4-0ST new to Bowaters in 1936, pulled out the spare loco for us to photograph. This was an ex SECR P Class 0-6-0T obtained from BR (31178) in June 1958 and painted in SECR livery with the name PIONEER II on the side tanks (There was an earlier PIONEER, an elderly Hunslet 0-4-0ST built in 1867 acquired secondhand in 1942 and scrapped in 1954). The P Class later went to the Bluebell Railway in 1969 and ran for a short period in SECR livery with the PIONEER II name. The Bagnall was also preserved and is currently at the East Anglian Railway Museum, Chappel & Wakes Colne Station.
The steam locos were replaced by diesels in 1968/9, again ex BR in the form of Class 04 Nos. D2228 and D2258, and later in 1977 by 08596.
LMS 0-6-0ST 11456 (ex L&Y 752) was sold to the Blainscough Colliery Co. Ltd. in May 1937 for use at their Welch Whittle Colliery, near Coppull. The colliery was connected to the LMS West Coast Mainline by a 1½ mile line running south west from a connection ½ mile north of Coppull Station. 11456 was still at Welch Whittle on vesting day (1/1/1947) but then had spells at Chisnall Hall Colliery, just to the south of Welch Whittle, and the Standish System which served several collieries nearer Wigan. In December 1958 it went from Chisnall Hall to the NCB Wigan Area's Kirkless Workshops in Wigan for repair. It was ex works in October 1959 in the Wigan Area livery of Green tank, boiler and wheels; Black cab; Red frames, coupling rods, footplate valances and steps. Throughout its NCB career it retained its LMS number, and this was painted in large red numerals on the cab sides. Unfortunately after this repair, as one visitor to Kirkless was told, no colliery would have it. Maybe it was considered too large and with too long a wheelbase for general colliery use. The previous 3 colliery systems it worked at all had fairly length lines connecting with BR, but Welch Whittle was due for closure and closed at the end of 1959, Chisnall Hall had recently received an Austerity 0-6-0ST newly repaired at Kirkless and the Standish System was dieselised in 1958 with two new Yorkshire 0-6-0DEs. After sitting in the yard at Kirkless for about 3 months it was sent to the nearby Ince Moss Colliery for storage. In October 1961 it was sent to Parsonage Colliery, Leigh, where it would have seen some use, then a brief visit to Bickershaw to cover a shortage, but quickly returned to Parsonage because it was not considered suitable. By March 1963 it was out of use at Parsonage with a burst tube which was possibly never repaired and it certainly appeared to have been out of use for some time when I took the above photo in July1964. Parsonage also had two diesels available by that date.
After sale for preservation it left Parsonage in 1968 and spent 3 years in storage at Yates Duxbury's Heap Bridge Paper Mills, one of the last users of industrial steam locos in the Northwest, before arriving at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway in November 1971. It is currently resident at the East Lancashire Railway in non-authentic BR livery as 51456.
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