SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Very nice Dave, it's coming on a treat. GWR brown will really set them off.
Regards,
Ian
Regards,
Ian
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Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
More work completed on P14's 1 & 2.
On P14 (1) both ends now have had their Hips details added and then under coated, followed with one coat of top coat.
Both vehicles have got end stops fitted on the Buffer Beams, (I've left one unpainted so you can see them clearly) and etched Lamp brackets. The Hinges, rivets & Lamp Brackets can be seen in post #12 on Page 1
No.1 also has etched door hinges fitted.
Next job is to add Zinge Industries rivets to the sole bars where needed before painting them black.
Dave
On P14 (1) both ends now have had their Hips details added and then under coated, followed with one coat of top coat.
Both vehicles have got end stops fitted on the Buffer Beams, (I've left one unpainted so you can see them clearly) and etched Lamp brackets. The Hinges, rivets & Lamp Brackets can be seen in post #12 on Page 1
No.1 also has etched door hinges fitted.
Next job is to add Zinge Industries rivets to the sole bars where needed before painting them black.
Dave
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I realised I could only get so far in producing detailing items with my Silhouette Cameo 4. Adding them to the body works fine but as for the Brake gear then HIPS is just not ridged enough, even laminating several layers together didn't work. I didn't fancy scratch building all the parts that make up the brake gear so I bought myself a 3D Printer in January.
This is an Voxelab Aquiler X2 which is a clone of the Creality Ender 3. So a long learning curve started in how to produce small individual brake parts. My Son was using the software program Tinkercad and found it OK so I started to learn as well. This software is aimed at schools and colleges. The Slicer s/w I started was Cura which comes with the printer as does Voxelab, I din't get on with either of them and am now using Prusar which works very well.
I also wish to thank John Lewis (HMRS GWR Wagon & Coaches Steward) for his help in providing Photos, Drawings and Sketches of parts.
So first up is a photo of the printer having just printed 4 Brake Trusses.
I am lucky in have a set of photos of the underneath brake parts of the P19 Python at Didcot. In Tinkercad you manipulate shapes to create the ones you require, there is no drawing facility at all. I did download a check out Fusion 360 but that is even a longer learning curve.
There are several GWR vehicles like the Pythons that have Clasp Brakes ie shoes on both side of the wheels. Mink A,C,D Beetles, all Toads, several Fruit vans most of the DD's & the EE2.
So the photos I'm adding are purely of the clasp brakes. I still have to the produce the DCIII brake parts except for the ends off set brake leaver hangers.
To make it easier to identify the individual parts I've printed them in Yellow at one end and Black at the other end (final colour).
As can be seen here there are 14 items to each wheelset with the long pull rod.
This is just to show the Long Rods Support Brackets. Final ones will be black.
Dave
This is an Voxelab Aquiler X2 which is a clone of the Creality Ender 3. So a long learning curve started in how to produce small individual brake parts. My Son was using the software program Tinkercad and found it OK so I started to learn as well. This software is aimed at schools and colleges. The Slicer s/w I started was Cura which comes with the printer as does Voxelab, I din't get on with either of them and am now using Prusar which works very well.
I also wish to thank John Lewis (HMRS GWR Wagon & Coaches Steward) for his help in providing Photos, Drawings and Sketches of parts.
So first up is a photo of the printer having just printed 4 Brake Trusses.
I am lucky in have a set of photos of the underneath brake parts of the P19 Python at Didcot. In Tinkercad you manipulate shapes to create the ones you require, there is no drawing facility at all. I did download a check out Fusion 360 but that is even a longer learning curve.
There are several GWR vehicles like the Pythons that have Clasp Brakes ie shoes on both side of the wheels. Mink A,C,D Beetles, all Toads, several Fruit vans most of the DD's & the EE2.
So the photos I'm adding are purely of the clasp brakes. I still have to the produce the DCIII brake parts except for the ends off set brake leaver hangers.
To make it easier to identify the individual parts I've printed them in Yellow at one end and Black at the other end (final colour).
As can be seen here there are 14 items to each wheelset with the long pull rod.
This is just to show the Long Rods Support Brackets. Final ones will be black.
Dave
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Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I have replaced two of the photos in my previous post as I have found out that the V bracket was the wrong way up.
These are to protect the long pull rods from hitting the track should they break loose.
Dave
These are to protect the long pull rods from hitting the track should they break loose.
Dave
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Stunning work Dave, you’re too creative for your own good. Looking forward to seeing this vehicle painted.
Regards,
Ian
Regards,
Ian
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
michael mott
Western Thunderer
Just finished going through this build thread really nice work. Interesting to hear about using the Silhouette cameo 4 cutter. I am gathering that HIPS is High impact polystyrene?
Michael
Michael
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
Hi Michael, yes that's what it stands for with the S for sheet, HIPS was easier to spell than polystyrene at the time.
Thank you for your comments, still some way to go yet I've only been working on both of them for about a year! Too many other things get in the way.
Dave
Thank you for your comments, still some way to go yet I've only been working on both of them for about a year! Too many other things get in the way.
Dave
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I have made some progress on the P14's in the last few months, usually not a lot of modelling get done in the Summer month. I did attend the G1MRA's 75 Anniversary as a demonstrator with the P14's to show that G1 can be relatively cheap to be in. So prior to the show I spent quite some time getting the Pythons into some sort of presentable state.
So both have now been painted and transfers fitted, DCIII brake gear fitted to one and Vac & Steam fitting fitted to the other. So some photos of progress so far. more coming up shortly!
Dave
So both have now been painted and transfers fitted, DCIII brake gear fitted to one and Vac & Steam fitting fitted to the other. So some photos of progress so far. more coming up shortly!
Dave
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Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
Continuing on from my last post the windows have all been fitted now. 3 more photos 2 of the ends and 1 of the middle.
Vac & Steam fittings now added to the ends. End steps which are two items 3D printed. The pipes for the Vac & Steam are of different sizes as per prototype and fixed at the ends with shrink wrap.
All the Vac and Steam parts are are treated with Birchwood Casey (BC) which in my opinion looks more realistic than being painted black. All the LW Casting are from Ken Martin.
I'm currently working on the long steps that go under the doors. These are a mix of wood brass rod and 3D supports for the steps (as per the end steps)
I have finished one of the roofs so I'll post that shortly.
Dave
Vac & Steam fittings now added to the ends. End steps which are two items 3D printed. The pipes for the Vac & Steam are of different sizes as per prototype and fixed at the ends with shrink wrap.
All the Vac and Steam parts are are treated with Birchwood Casey (BC) which in my opinion looks more realistic than being painted black. All the LW Casting are from Ken Martin.
I'm currently working on the long steps that go under the doors. These are a mix of wood brass rod and 3D supports for the steps (as per the end steps)
I have finished one of the roofs so I'll post that shortly.
Dave
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Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
Here's the photos of the roof + parts.
The top item comes with the kit and is flexible to bend round the roof bars. The item below is Calico with the cut outs for the roof bars.
The Calico was attached with 3M Spray Mount and then painted with two coats of Reeves Acrylic Medium Grey. This is available in a 75mm tube.
Dave
The top item comes with the kit and is flexible to bend round the roof bars. The item below is Calico with the cut outs for the roof bars.
The Calico was attached with 3M Spray Mount and then painted with two coats of Reeves Acrylic Medium Grey. This is available in a 75mm tube.
Dave
Nice work, following with great interest, I have made a python, A ken west kit, I did not get on with the roof that was supplied, I think it was a little short, I used coffee stirrers, stuck down onto the inner framework then covered them as you have with material, and it looks good. Then you have so many coffer stirrers remaining. as they come in large quantities, so you have to make another wagon to use them up.
isambardme
Western Thunderer
Ken West has been very good in supplying a replacement longer roof on the odd occasion that one is needed. I am very pleased to note that he is still supplying his kits, I spoke to him recently at a show. It's great that he is still producing kits that give people a very good intro to making Gauge 1 wagons, vans etc at a very reasonable price, that can be superdetailed to suit the owner's requirements.
I certainly admire the work in producing these excellent models, but personally, I think that especially with outside running in Gauge 1, there is some merit in Peter Spoerer's comment that the more you add under a vehicle, the more there is to come off at inconvenient times. For an inside G1 layout, it is a different matter of course.
Steve
I certainly admire the work in producing these excellent models, but personally, I think that especially with outside running in Gauge 1, there is some merit in Peter Spoerer's comment that the more you add under a vehicle, the more there is to come off at inconvenient times. For an inside G1 layout, it is a different matter of course.
Steve
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I have said previously that these were Ken’s kits. He was at the Bicester show and I did talk to him at length.
He told me his son didn’t wish to continue selling the KW range so ken is back selling his products again.
I was also able to show him the P14 that I took to the show. He also told me that he has altered the windows on the P19 after I had pointed it out to him that they were too long. He is a difficult person to get in touch with and shows seems to be the best way.
Thank you both for your comments.
Dave
He told me his son didn’t wish to continue selling the KW range so ken is back selling his products again.
I was also able to show him the P14 that I took to the show. He also told me that he has altered the windows on the P19 after I had pointed it out to him that they were too long. He is a difficult person to get in touch with and shows seems to be the best way.
Thank you both for your comments.
Dave
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
Here are 5 photos on the first P14 to be 99.9% finished. I have been running it in my goods train at the EAG that I belong to and it looks very nice. Nothing has fell off as yet!!
Photos to follow Internet problems.
DavB
Photos to follow Internet problems.
DavB
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Interesting, remarkably similar to the photo I have the negative of, therefore copyright. GWR non passenger coaching stock NPCCS | W556 CCT GWR Python diag P14 � Paul Bartlett Collection w
Paul
Paul
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I do have that photo of the P14, I bought it off your website.
DaveB
Dave Bowden
Western Thunderer
I have removed the photo from this topic and I’ll be more careful in future.
I shall add a photo of the two completed vehicles shortly.
Dave