7mm At the Western End of F7

[SimonT]

Thank you Dave. 2434 is rather interesting.

I've put my model to the same position as this tender and the sccop should just show. Unfortunately there isn't enough light on the real one to see what's there. There is a scoop standard. And there are lots of variations.
Simon

 

[Dog Star]

Time for some heretical thinking.

Does the presence of a standard / column in the correct position guarantee that there is a water scoop fitted to the tender?

Might Swindon not fit a scoop to a tender that is allocated to an engine which does not require a water scope by virtue of where that engine is (to be) allocated?

Rgds, Graham

 

[SimonT]

Graham,
it's a line thought I've had. I've just taken another look at the original GA for the Tender in Vol 1 of Russell and the tender is drawn with a standard on the left side of the footplate; it looks like there are standards on both sides. This was when there was a filler and overflow on the back deck. Did they intend to fit a scoop when they fitted the coffin and then decide not to fit a scoop?

Might well be the explanation. Thanks

Simon

 

[Scale7JB]

Some hours later, 2434 back on the road with a lot of space showing where a scoop might have been.

Dave
(and, yes, I know that 'Great Western' isn't visible on the poor photo from my collection but it's undoubtedly the same day. Look at the fire irons and coal positions.)
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Looks like the one-off double chimney version.

 

[mickoo]

Some hours later, 2434 back on the road with a lot of space showing where a scoop might have been.

Dave
(and, yes, I know that 'Great Western' isn't visible on the poor photo from my collection but it's undoubtedly the same day. Look at the fire irons and coal positions.)
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I don't think it left the road in the first the shot, the first shot is a lower angle and I think the tracks in the foreground are higher, the second shot has been taken from the higher tracks to reveal all of the track and wheels.

In fact I think both shots were taken, if not at the same time by different people, then very close together, look at the shadow on the firebox, it curves down and clips the rear washout plug in exactly the same position in both shots.

 

[adrian]

I don't think it left the road in the first the shot, the first shot is a lower angle and I think the tracks in the foreground are higher, the second shot has been taken from the higher tracks to reveal all of the track and wheels.

In fact I think both shots were taken, if not at the same time by different people, then very close together, look at the shadow on the firebox, it curves down and clips the rear washout plug in exactly the same position in both shots.

I was just going to say the same thing - the main drivers and coupling rod position, the telegraph poles and the box van positioned behind the rear of the tender all suggest to me the loco hasn't moved between the 2 photos, they are just taken from different positions.

 

[daifly]

I have the same photo as @SimonTs original and you are both quite correct. There is a very slight difference in rail levels which gave me the distinct impression that it had left the true path. Closer examination of the photos does indeed show that nothing was amiss - other than my eyesight!
Dave