7mm , Blackney, A Glimpse of the Forest
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Alan
Western Thunderer
It would appear that wheel base is correct but the after chassis and therefore the flatbed is about 10mm too short. Whilst I'm detailing the cab I shall give some thought to
a, do I leave the flat bed as it is.
b, If I decide to do something about do I use the b present flat be and extend by cuutting it and adding some planking on top and cutting the chassis and lengthening it
or
c. lengthen chassis and rebuild the flatbed from scratch.
Ponder, ponder, ponder.
a, do I leave the flat bed as it is.
b, If I decide to do something about do I use the b present flat be and extend by cuutting it and adding some planking on top and cutting the chassis and lengthening it
or
c. lengthen chassis and rebuild the flatbed from scratch.
Ponder, ponder, ponder.
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Given that it is not the actual wheelbase, but the lack of rear overhang that is noticeable -
I would be inclined to shorten the wheelbase to increase the rear body overhang by relocating the axle and mudguards.
I'd take the original wheelbase and rear overhang and reduce the wheelbase to keep that dimension ratio the same, so what - maybe 8/9mm reduction?
That surgery would not be readily noticeable and won't spoil your superb body paint job.
Feeling guilty about mentioning it now....
I would be inclined to shorten the wheelbase to increase the rear body overhang by relocating the axle and mudguards.
I'd take the original wheelbase and rear overhang and reduce the wheelbase to keep that dimension ratio the same, so what - maybe 8/9mm reduction?
That surgery would not be readily noticeable and won't spoil your superb body paint job.
Feeling guilty about mentioning it now....
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Actually you could do that -
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Alan
Western Thunderer
Thanks Tim. Osgood (sorry I don't know your first name) the way the chassis was cast and the rear axle fitted in it willbe easier to remake the flatbed in one of the two ways I suggested. and don't be sorry you mentione it. I must admit it doesn't look quite right as it is.
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Alan,
if you decide to go the HIAB route, I have an 7mm scale HIAB XS which is surplus to requirements (aborted project)
The stabilisers extend, as does the jib which is an impressive 270mm from the pivot point above the main ram to centre of the fall pulley.
Let me know if it is of interest.
regards
Mike
if you decide to go the HIAB route, I have an 7mm scale HIAB XS which is surplus to requirements (aborted project)
The stabilisers extend, as does the jib which is an impressive 270mm from the pivot point above the main ram to centre of the fall pulley.
Let me know if it is of interest.
regards
Mike
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Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
I didn't know Hiab's history went back that far.Actually you could do that -
Hiab history & strong brands | Hiab About Us | Hiab
Hiab's rich history and strong brands drive innovation and reliability, establishing it as a leader in load handling solutions globally.
Even if a lorry-mounted Hiab fits within Blackney's 'Era', I'm not sure something quite so 'modern' would've been seen in the Forest at the time?
After all, the classic (albeit post-1966) directions to the Forest from London were "Follow the M4, cross the Severn Bridge, turn right, and go back 25 years...."
michael mott
Western Thunderer
Hi Alan I'd be inclined to make a new bed and find a use for the old one.
About 30 years ago I pulled the deck off a 1953 3ton international by removing all the u-bolts holding it on, chaining the deck to a spruce tree and then driving out from under the deck. Then used the deck as a foundation for a cabin.
It could make the base for a nice office/cum workshop in the yard.
Michael
About 30 years ago I pulled the deck off a 1953 3ton international by removing all the u-bolts holding it on, chaining the deck to a spruce tree and then driving out from under the deck. Then used the deck as a foundation for a cabin.
It could make the base for a nice office/cum workshop in the yard.
Michael
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Richard
Western Thunderer
Will this be a purely civilian Bedford type S or an ex military RL?
I note the S had a diesel engine according to the specification sheet shown earlier.
I did my HGV training on an RL, and I'm pretty sure they were petrol engined.
As an aside, after the RL, the replacement Bedford MK and TK were very sluggardly.
The MK also had a rather awkward change down from 3rd to 2nd gear. If you didn't get it right first time you'd end up quadruple declutching (Well it felt like that) to get into gear. The TK didn't seem to have the same issue, so I suspect it was something to do with the difference between 4 and 2 wheel drive gearbox layouts.
I note the S had a diesel engine according to the specification sheet shown earlier.
I did my HGV training on an RL, and I'm pretty sure they were petrol engined.
As an aside, after the RL, the replacement Bedford MK and TK were very sluggardly.
The MK also had a rather awkward change down from 3rd to 2nd gear. If you didn't get it right first time you'd end up quadruple declutching (Well it felt like that) to get into gear. The TK didn't seem to have the same issue, so I suspect it was something to do with the difference between 4 and 2 wheel drive gearbox layouts.
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Now let's see - that HIAB crane weighs around 6300kg, and the payload of the Big Bedford is……
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Ah, but Bedfords were always overloaded and survived.the payload of the Big Bedford is……
3 LINK
Western Thunderer
Bedfords were horrendous , I had to have a night out in a TK many years ago and whoever designed the cab must of had a sadistic streak, as unless you had the body of a dwarf you just cannot quite fit on the shelf behind the cab. That night seemed to last forever let alone the freezing temperature…
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
I don’t doubt it! That engine access without a fully tilting cab, too!
My reference was really to pre-war Bedfords, which were frequently bought by hauliers because they knew the vehicles could be overloaded readily. One of my reference books has a lovely period photo of a Bedford W flatbed, tyres literally rubbing inside the mudguards, groaning under the weight of a massive load of bales of wool.
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
I have to say that the top photo's light, composition and content are particularly pleasing - very life-like.
LarryG
Western Thunderer
The only Bedfords I drove were coaches. the worst by far being Bedford SB's. I was delivering a petrol one from Yorkshire which took off like a rocket but the electrics failed at dusk near Manchester. Another had so-called power steering that was barely self-centring. Funnily enough, the operators initials were OB......Oswyn Blythin DFO.
