4mm Blodwell Junction (Shropshire) - Cambrian Railways/GWR/BR

Barry37

Western Thunderer
The Gaugemaster Prodigy DCC controller that I inherited (sadly, literally) from my brother, Colin, had a tendency to randomly turn itself off.
This was due to the power on-off slide switch being faulty, probably brought on by the way it was mounted
It's unusual in having extended terminals soldered onto the PCB, and it's the longer terminals that make it the right height when the cover's replaced. It's also just these the soldered terminals that fix it in place , which is asking for broken joints.
Much trawling of electronics' suppliers failed to find the same type.
I had an identical switch, but with standard length terminals. These were extended with suitable wire, and it is the wire tails that are soldered to the PCB.
To make the switch more "solid", it has a 3D printed base to sit in, with holes for the wires and fixing screws.

ProdigySwitch base.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Signalling time.
Beginning with the two Home signals just beyond the junction. These were conveniently, for modelling purposes, very close to the junction, with a Fixed Distant on the Llangynog line, which appears in the background of a couple of photos. I assume there was a Distant for trains approaching on the other line, but it's not visible in photos, and it wouldn't be visible on the layout either.
The signals are 3D printed, and plug into a base that will be glued into the baseboard. This has a tubular part that goes through the chipboard or ply, with a square top and hole for the signal post. The operating wire passes through the base to the operating crank below. The arm and lever pivot on brass Lill pins that are a tight fit in the post.
This is a test of the "system" in a scrap piece of wood. The signal can be removed after unhooking the wire from the lever.

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Below the baseboard there's a mounting for the operating crank's pivot. The crank touches the base of the housing in the "on" position, and the length of the wire up to the lever on the signal post sets the arm at horizontal.

SigCrank.JPG
Operation will be by 2mm brass rod running through guides to the back of the baseboard (300mm or so). The amount of "pull" is limited by the 3mm dia. screw on the crank mounting - the ones under the layout will have a locknut.
"Off" position:

SigCrankOff.JPG
The bracket Starter signal will have a similar arrangement, but with two cranks in the mounting. Probably.
 

Barry37

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Somewhat away from its home area, this is an NER van which had a canvas roof over the doors. The NER apparently liked this design, as it made unloading by crane easier, though rather prone to leaks.
One, possibly more, seems to have been "captured" by Cambrian Railways, as it appears in a few photos (not on the Tanat Valley though). That one, however, had wider horizontal planks, and outside metal X bracing on the sides.
The roof has still to be glued on - I haven't bothered to model the gap in the middle, as it will be covered by the "tarpaulin". From the drawing, it seems that there were three removable wooden sheet supports across the gap - still to be added.
The brake levers need redrawing/printing as I bent the the cranked part that clears the axle box by hand, and then they weren't long enough.
The van will be in LNER livery, though there may be an NER version, if some Cam Rys-era locos materialise.

NERvanparts.jpg NERvan.JPG
 

Barry37

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This (probably) isn't a wagon for my layout.
It's an SR Bulleid cast steel Lowmac, that I drew for my brother, though he didn't get to have an actual wagon. There's a preserved one on the Bluebell Railway, though this now has a steel plate floor.
Although goods traffic up the Tanat Valley was probably fairly limited in variety, there was, during several periods, pipe traffic for reservoirs constructed in the Welsh hills further west. Excavating machinery also arrived by train, though the only excavator photographed was on an LNER 20T bogie vehicle much longer than the Bulleid one. See below.
This is a half set of parts - it didn't have a floor, only movable cross bars, as built:

SR Bulleid Lowmac.jpg

LNER 20T Flatrol DD of 1929 No. 158354 - two similar wagons appeared in 1939, though these were 25T Flatrol Ds.

LNER Flatrol DD.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
This is an ancient Airfix 14xx, in GWR livery. I've changed the motor from the large one that filled the cab, to one that is similar to the Mashima ones. It's only 3 pole, though.
There's a two-part cradle and holding down clip. The cradle is held down by the same screw/chassis hole as the original motor.
Like the Mashimas, these motors have a 1.5mm shaft, so there's a 3D printed replacement for the motor half of the universal joint.
No idea what a previous owner has spilt on the front weight causing the corrosion.

14xxMotor.JPG
This one still needs a DCC chip fitting. There's more room without the bigger motor.
Here's its equally-ancient friend in BR livery, with daylight through the cab. This one has been chipped - it's in a plasticard pocket the back of the cab.
Appearance would be improved by fitting wire cabside handrails.

14xxCab.jpg
 

King Crab

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And now a loco. This is very much a work in progress, though not very often. It's possible that the body of the model pictured may be reprinted - my current printer is more accurate than the first one, despite only being around a quarter of the price of the first.
Though the first one did manage a fairly good job of the sandbox operating rods.
It's a Swindonised version of Cambrian Railways No.48, running as GWR No.908, withdrawn in 1938.
The body and chassis are printed, with turned brass buffers, and Gibson wheels. The coupling rods are being a bit troublesome at the moment - I may experiment with superglueing the two parts together (in the middle, to see if this cures the locking.
The tender is from an Kitmaster/Dapol City of Truro kit, and was sliced diagonally and extended with plasticard to make it match the length and wheelbase of 908's tender.
It has twin worms on the middle and rear axle, with a Mashima motor. The leading axle is sprung by a coil spring fitted in the recesses in the chassis and the moving part that carries the bearings. (picture lower down)

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Tender chassis:

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Sprung tender axle (Blender drawing):
Inverted bearing unit on the left included to show recess for spring.
The axle goes through all four holes, holding everything in place.

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The Cambrian was always such a fascinating and independant railway.
I have been meaning to do something with a Mawddy / Cemmaes Rd theme for years.
So well done for getting on with your piece of the Cambrian!
In the meantime, being nosy, what is your latest 3D printer, if I may ask?

Peter
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
The Cambrian was always such a fascinating and independant railway.
I have been meaning to do something with a Mawddy / Cemmaes Rd theme for years.
So well done for getting on with your piece of the Cambrian!
In the meantime, being nosy, what is your latest 3D printer, if I may ask?

Peter
The Mawddy seems to have been a rather ramshackle operation. Which is what made it interesting, I suppose.
In one photo, in Cambrian days, there's what appears to be a Cam Rys inside-sliding-door van being used as a brake van. This has had two windows fitted in the ends - probably both ends.
Likewise, the Van Railway. Both of which gave the Cambrian the excuse to run some exotic locos.

The previous printer was a Lulzbot Taz 4, which expired after 7 years. It was a chunky item, but I think the over-engineered filament drive and consequent weight led to corners not being as sharp as they could be (The print head weight caused a kind of over-run).

The current one is a Creality Ender 5 Pro. This has been modified with a direct drive (around £20) instead of the "Bowden cable" drive that it came with. It was much cheaper, too - about a quarter the price of the Taz was (in 2015), at about £240 in 2022.
It also has a Creality glass plate bed, instead of the magnetic bed that it came with. That didn't like the bed temperature needed for ABS, and started blistering. It lives in an IKEA 600mm kitchen base unit, with a clear polystyrene "door", to maintain the heat.
Drawing is done with Blender 4, and slicing with Cura.
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
I have done the Cambrian 4 wheel coaches as kits. Available at Pregroupingrailways.com.
Marc
Thanks for the tip.
I will bear them in mind, as and when I get to pre-Group coaching stock.
Seven 3D printed GWR coaches to assemble before that - and wagons.
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Just discovered this layout thread - what a wonderful and interesting project!
Thanks.
I had hoped to include some of the quarry and loading facility at the right-hand end (eastish), but the layout is as long as it can be in the loft room.
So there won't be any gravity shunting of ballast trains.
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
This (probably) isn't a wagon for my layout.
It's an SR Bulleid cast steel Lowmac, that I drew for my brother, though he didn't get to have an actual wagon. There's a preserved one on the Bluebell Railway, though this now has a steel plate floor.
Although goods traffic up the Tanat Valley was probably fairly limited in variety, there was, during several periods, pipe traffic for reservoirs constructed in the Welsh hills further west. Excavating machinery also arrived by train, though the only excavator photographed was on an LNER 20T bogie vehicle much longer than the Bulleid one. See below.
This is a half set of parts - it didn't have a floor, only movable cross bars, as built:

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LNER 20T Flatrol DD of 1929 No. 158354 - two similar wagons appeared in 1939, though these were 25T Flatrol Ds.

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Intrigued by the Bulleid flatrol - I’d talked with Colin about the best way to tackle one of those, and it was sufficiently long ago that 3D printing was not really anywhere near up to the mark. Do you have any intention of marketing the files/ prints at all?

The Bluebell have one of the riveted ones with RIV fittings which looks a much easier proposition using ‘conventional’ techniques, and I’m tempted, but there are so many other things to model…

Adam
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Intrigued by the Bulleid flatrol - I’d talked with Colin about the best way to tackle one of those, and it was sufficiently long ago that 3D printing was not really anywhere near up to the mark. Do you have any intention of marketing the files/ prints at all?

The Bluebell have one of the riveted ones with RIV fittings which looks a much easier proposition using ‘conventional’ techniques, and I’m tempted, but there are so many other things to model…

Adam
These wagons were seen at Newhaven, which was Colin's favoured area for modelling. This is a pair on the quayside, c.1950. The right hand one seems to have borrowed some of the crossbars from the other wagon.

bulleid well wagons 1950.jpg
I've done some more work on the drawings - there's now a brake lever and brakeshoes, plus ribs for the load-bearing baulks.
I could supply a kit for this - DM me for details, or there's an email address & phone number on: deangoods.co.uk - we supply 16mm scale parts.
(I was going to put details here, but I'm not sure whether WT rules allow that, other than on the Small Ads pages)

SR Bulleid Flatrol D1682a.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Progress on signalling. The signals have constructed, and their plug-in bases temporarily fitted into the baseboards. Proper installation will have to wait until the boards come off their trestles (see below), when the loft room is rearranged.
As can be seen, the boards aren't yet aligned. The junction one needs to go down a little, before joining bolts are fitted.
The signals are 3D printed. with the exception of operating wires and Lill pins for "axles", plus the wire handrail on the junction signal. Glasses are theatre lighting gel.
In this photo. it's an unusually sunny day in the Tanat Valley. On the left, uncared-for green Ivatt 2-6-0 46521 is waiting to run round its train of ballast hoppers, before taking them to be loaded at Llanddu Quarry sidings just up the Nantmawr branch.
Beyond, another Ivatt* 2-6-0 (a cleaner black-liveried loco) is approaching with a an ex-GWR B Set from Llanfyllin, bound for Oswestry. This never happened, to the best of my knowledge, mainly because the junction with the Llanfyllin branch faced the wrong way: east towards Llanymynech and the Welshpool/Oswestry line.
* this has still to be renumbered as one of 46510/11/12, as its current Bachmann number isn't a loco that worked in the area.

I suppose that the left-hand Home signal could be "off" whichever way the point the loco is passing is set, and interlocking just proved that it wasn't "half & half". It must also have required the near point to be correctly set, to access the platform road.
Towards the end of the line's use this side of the overbridge, both these points were removed (by 1957), and running round couldn't actually happen. It may well have involved running back from the quarry with the engine and brake van at the same end of the train.

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Here's 46521 with empty hoppers. It's standing on top of the loop catch point, but the signalman has turned a blind eye. From photos, it appears that a train of wagons to be run round, was usually left in the platform road, as this was longer between the points.
On the left, is the only point rodding and signal wires done so far - there's also plastic rodding (to avoid shorts) across to the point on the right.
Point rodding was assembled off-site on a length of wood, as it seemed much easier than attempting to get the stools level and inline in situ.

BlodwellSignals2.jpg

The layout's centre baseboard stands on two trestles. These are made of 50 x 25mm timber, with 6mm plywood stiffening plates. Having carted about trestles for the Cambrian Models stand for many years, I felt that they took up too much room when folded - they were 75 x 25mm legs, and had crossbars and a diagonal on the outside of the legs. Each one was thus about 100mm thick when folded, and took up quite a lot of room in the car, especially when, originally, there were three of them.
Instead, the design shown below was adopted. The two halves pivot on a length of 6mm studding at the top, with a centre "bearing" to stiffen the studding. The outer legs are notched to fit the baseboard frame, and there are short extra pieces on the inside of the frame that match the slope of the legs, trapping them against the end timber of the baseboard. The inner legs go inside the outer ones when folded.
The legs are kept at the correct splay by two lengths of 6mm studding which have nuts and washers each side of the legs. It should be possible to adjust the front to back level, by tightening one side's studding a little more - to raise that side.
The end baseboards rest on protruding lips on the centre baseboard, and only have a single upright pair of legs at the outer ends, made in the same way as the trestle "halves". These will probably have diagonal struts up to the baseboard - still have to decide how these will be attached.
Blender 3D drawing (done to prove that they would fold as required!) of trestles:

Trestles.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Haven't made any progress with the layout, but it is in the process of getting a new loco.
During WWII, other railways lent locomotives to the GWR, as a quantity of its Dean Goods had been requisitioned by the War Department. These included 40 ageing Midland Railway locos from the LMS. These were Johnson 2F 0-6-0s, which had detail variations, particularly the cabs.
Eight were allocated to the Oswestry/Welshpool area, and put on light duties. One was photographed by J.I.C. Boyd pulling a passenger train in the Tanat valley, where little harm would be done, if it struggled to move the train.
The photo of the loco is too murky to make out the number, so it will one of the borrowed locos, close to the number of a loco that I have a better photo of. 3536 (BR 58283) will probably the one chosen, although I don't know it was one of the OSW locos.
I've got a works drawing of the tender, but the loco itself has been based on known dimensions, and two side-on photos.
The parts were printed as a kit, enabling different print directions and nozzle sizes.
All the parts are 3D printed, except for a few thin strips of plasticard "moulding" and the cab roof. Handrails will be fixed properly once I have some medium/long handrail knobs for the boiler.
The sand boxes need to come further out, so that they're actually under the fillers. A bit more smoothing of the layer ridges needs to be done on the firebox, boiler and smokebox - these were printed in one piece, vertically (without the chimney and dome).
MR Johnson 3:4Front.jpgMR Johnson 3:4rear.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
The underneath of the boiler, showing the recess for the motor and worm. There'll need to be some cutting away for the wheels under the cab and rear of smokebox saddle.
The boiler and smokebox are hollow, and were filled with brass panel pins as weight, before fitting the smokebox door. There's a trapped 3mm nut in the saddle for attaching the chassis.
The inadequate length of the handrail knobs can be seen. The other side handrail doubled up as a pipe (must be a technical word for the purpose of this), so the shank of the handrail knobs doesn't show. The wire on that side has insulation from multi-core cable* slid onto the handrail wire to make it thicker, in between the handrail knobs.

* I used a defective ethernet cable, but phone cable seems to be a similar size.
MR Johnson boiler.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
The Cambrian has "acquired" an LNWR cattle wagon. It's a D21 Medium, with the slightly increased inside length of 15' 6" (16' 2"ish over headstocks. There's no photographic evidence of one on the Tanat Valley, however, page 122 of the LNWR Wagons Book Vol.1, shows a D21 at Barmouth*, with a suggested date of the 1920s. By the time the photo was taken, two brakeshoes each side had been added, instead of the single one fitted when built. The LNWR liked a lot of leverage on its brakes, so the handle of the brake lever projected past the headstocks, which had a curved cut-away in their ends for clearance. The left hand ends were similarly shaped
* the location's not stated in the book, but the photo was taken from somewhere close to where 22 Marine Road, Barmouth is today.

This is 3D printed, except for the roof. The side framing/drop door was printed separately, as this gave a better appearance to the printing of the planking on the side panels and top doors.
If I'd checked the position of the horizontal bars before sticking the frames onto the planks, the plastic rod for the bars could have been sandwiched in between.
Limewash and faded LNWR lettering to be added.
LNWR Cattle Wagon.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Seems to be a while since I posted anything. Progress on the layout has stalled. pending rearrangement of the loft access, so that the fiddle yards can be constructed/fitted.
In the meantime, some wagons have been added to the stock.
Though this one hasn't (it was produced for a customer), as it was probably no longer about by the time the line opened. It's an SER van with a sliding roof from the 1850s, shown on p.8 of SR Wagons Vol.3. They were unusual in only having doors on one side, thought to be less inconvenient then, as wagon turntables were very common. Without knowing dimensions, it's based on SR D1419, which be made by using two "door" sides.
SER van.jpgSER van 2.jpg

This is also a dubious intruder on the Tanat Valley. It's a twin Midland Railway boiler wagon set (there were two pairs), which just could have been used to transport pipework for Liverpool Corporation's pipeline from Lake Vyrnwy. The plastic coupling is a loose fit in the headstocks, the actual coupling is a 1mm dia. wire underneath. These don't seem to have stanchions, as the swivelling bolsters had a curved cutout. The load was chained down, though, probably tighter to one wagon.
MR boiler set.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
Pipes for Liverpool Corporation went up the line at various times. The earliest traffic was using Midland and Great Central double bolster wagons, probably carrying two pipes (25' x 3' 6") at a time.
This is the MR type, to D339/D339a of 1896/98. From the bolt head positions on the timber solebar, it's quite likely that there was a steel "flitch plate" on the front of the solebars, to reduce bending – otherwise this was a long wagon for a timber underframe without truss rods.
Digital photos aren't very kind to 3D printed wagons – some tidying up needed on bolt heads and axleboxes. Although it's the same make, the grey filament is more inclined to "stringing" than their black.
MR double Bolster.jpg

This is the Great Central double bolster. This has a steel underframe: dimensions are estimated as I don't have a drawing.
GC double bolster.jpg
 

Barry37

Western Thunderer
I've recently acquired the new (last year) book on the Tanat Valley by Peter Johnson, and also a copy of the older Wilfrid Wren book which also has chapters about the industrial activity in the valley.
The former has a photo of pipes at Blodwell Junction in the 1950s, loaded onto BR double bolster wagons.(D1/416). This type, which is still a work progress in the drawing area.
BR double bolster.jpg
According to the Peter Johnson book, in the 1950s, the Tanat line was home to some 1300 wagons, awaiting movement to Swindon. 200 of these had to be relocated, to enable the pipe trains to run. I suspect that many of these were scrapped – this certainly took place at Llanymynech on the Oswestry to Welshpool line. This would allow wagons of many types to trundle up the valley to await their fate.

For my layout, I'm allowing the once plentiful timber traffic to continue. Perhaps some of this would have been carried on pairs of single bolster wagons. This is the LNER-design BR wagon to D1/400.
Detail on the solebars and the bolts on the body corners are applied separately – printed with a 0.2mm nozzle, which would take ages to print a whole wagon. The surface finish isn't as good with a small nozzle on larger flat areas, either (these sides need a bit of sanding).

BR single Bolster.jpg
 
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