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[Herb Garden]

The intention is not to copy, but to create a reasonable resemblance, nothing more. The pedants don't care what I do, they will always criticize, so I just build what suits me. WT does not seem to be home to this demographic, it is refreshingly tolerant of those who simply build, share or just plain do stuff.

As far as I'm concerned there is only one reason to make and play with toy trains: to have fun. That's why I do it. And it's nice to be part of a community that gets that.

A murrain on those who criticise for nothing but Thier own satisfaction!

 

[Richard Gawler]

Currently, the pedants on DSO are arguing about both the colour of cow dung and the quantity produced.

I have no dung photos so I'll go for a bridge instead. I took these two photos less than two minutes apart.


The colour of the brickwork and the timber hasn't changed a jot, but the way we perceive the colour certainly has. No wonder so many of us struggle with representing unpainted brick and timber.

Even if you build a fabulous lighting rig to reproduce sunlight or a cloudy sky or dusk at your chosen latitude and longitude, you will still have to decide upon the level of atmostpheric pollution and a specific viewing distance before you even start to paint anything *using a colour of your own making*. There is no right answer; and I suggest your critics are somewhat blinkered and unlikely to help. Better to post on WT

I can't comment on the quantity.

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[Tim Hale]

Possibly, my favourite image

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White storks were summer visitors to our village, their arrival signified the end of winter and I used to watch them hunt in the meadows for frogs etc. They were friendly and if they were used to your presence, they might come close by and 'chat' by clacking their beaks, they mate for life and always return to their birthplace.

There is a re-introduction unit in Sussex, it would make me very happy to see them hunt in the Purlieu once more after 600 years.

Tim

 

[Tim Hale]

More faffing, this time the farm gets some attention, although not particularly interesting, the layout has a strong bias towards scenery.
The farm and its associated buildings occupies more real estate than the station in an effort to place a railway in the landscape though a bit tricky with so little room.
Btw, none of this impresses German modellers as it not made in Germany.

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[NHY 581]

Btw, none of this impresses German modellers as it not made in Germany.

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Hi Tim,

Do you mean the layout itself or the individual items which constitute it ?

Just struggling to understand what you mean by this.

Rob.

 

[Kane Clements]

I have no dung photos so I'll go for a bridge instead. I took these two photos less than two minutes apart.

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The colour of the brickwork and the timber hasn't changed a jot, but the way we perceive the colour certainly has. No wonder so many of us struggle with representing unpainted brick and timber.

Even if you build a fabulous lighting rig to reproduce sunlight or a cloudy sky or dusk at your chosen latitude and longitude, you will still have to decide upon the level of atmostpheric pollution and a specific viewing distance before you even start to paint anything *using a colour of your own making*. There is no right answer; and I suggest your critics are somewhat blinkered and unlikely to help. Better to post on WT

I can't comment on the quantity.

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Hi Tim.

It looks as if the light changed between the pictures. Also if you look at the top one the sky is a bit blown out whereas the second has a blue sky and nicely defined clouds. Probably the settings changed as well if you were on Auto.

You are right about the fickle nature of light and therefore colour. I'm a keen photographer and whilst Light Room is ones friend producing images that are 'true to life' can be a struggle. It is also dependent on the media one is outputting to inc choice of paper.

I figure the same goes for modelling. For instance if you make a building out of card and paint it the texture will affect the way the light is reflected and therefore the colour is perceived compared to say plastic.

 

[Richard Gawler]

It looks as if the light changed between the pictures. Also if you look at the top one the sky is a bit blown out whereas the second has a blue sky and nicely defined clouds. Probably the settings changed as well if you were on Auto.

Yes the camera was in its program mode, as our eyes are all the time. The idea was to show how difficult it is to identify and mix colours so they can appear to be what we are expecting. I think it would be nigh impossible to choose colours so that, given the right lighting rig, you could reproduce both appearances here.

Unfortunately, the post from which I quoted (which referred to the colour of dung) was heavily edited and now seems to have been deleted altogether. In the circumstances, my post may be irrelevant.

 

[Tim Hale]

Early morn in the workshop, just found a couple of rusty oil drums and coal baskets to adorn the coal stage scene. It is removable as a unit due to its fragility and the potential of irreperable damage.

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Tim

 

[Tim Hale]

Hi,

For the last few months I have been ignoring my deterioration and I suppose that this post is inevitable as recent events have had a profound effect and life is becoming increasingly difficult.

Pottendorf will be one of the first casualties.

Tim

 

[Overseer]

Hi,

For the last few months I have been ignoring my deterioration and I suppose that this post is inevitable as recent events have had a profound effect and life is becoming increasingly difficult.

Pottendorf will be one of the first casualties.

Tim

Very sorry to hear that. I have enjoyed watching the development of Pottendorf, your observation of details and working out how to represent them effectively. The layout is coming together so convincingly. Thank you for sharing it with us.

 

[timbowales]

Tim, I can only endorse overseer’s remarks. All of your postings are most enjoyable. You have proven that “les is more” is true
Tim T

 

[Heather Kay]

I concur with both previous posters.

 

[Richard Gawler]

Tim I feel so sad for you. Your knowledge, skills and commitment have all been coming together so well. A buyer of your layout will have their own ideas, so I suggest you try to keep a part of the model indoors. Enjoy it as a static diorama for modelling and photography when opportunities permit.

 

[Roger Pound]

Hi,

For the last few months I have been ignoring my deterioration and I suppose that this post is inevitable as recent events have had a profound effect and life is becoming increasingly difficult.

Pottendorf will be one of the first casualties.

Tim

As someone finding himself in a very similar position health-wise, albeit from different but just as serious causes, my sincere commiserations Tim. Your Pottendorf thread has been and remains both very educative and a delight. We just have to keep on doing what we can whilst we are able, my friend and I am so sad that you feel unable to continue.

Regards,

Roger.

 

[Tim Hale]

Hi,

I intend to take it very quietly, I am unable to dismantle let alone sell the layout but maybe once the after-effects are subsiding I might be able to carry on…..
In the meantime keeping reasonably busy with an item that I ordered quite some time ago and has just pitched up. The cost is irrelevant, I always wanted one but lacked both the skill and equipment to make it, painting it grey will be a leap of faith, first red oxide primer after a good scrub with isopropyl and then left in the sun for 24hrs.
The prototype was not common, only one in Kempten and another in Miltenberg but they are unique to Bayern hence my obsession.

Feeling both pleased and full of trepidation.

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[timbowales]

That looks typically german over engineering
Tim T

 

[Neil]

I'm glad to see that you're feeling a little more hopeful Tim. The strategy of letting time do its thing and pottering on with smaller projects seems to be a wise one.

 

[Tim Watson]

Do please keep modelling and posting. I have really enjoyed reading about another country and another time as seen through your eyes and memories.

Tim

 

[Herb Garden]

Hallo,

The family albums reveal lots of overlooked features in the background, hidden behind images of the 'feral tribe' there was cow parsley at the side of the road, they grow everywhere in Franken. They are used to decorate the church for rural weddings or at least, they were popular in the '50-60s, much cheaper than flowers from the market. The richer the family, the greater the amount of cow parsley.

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Model cow parsley, these look very interesting and good value, a pack of 32

I seem to be obsessed with green stuff

Tim

Where did you get these from.... They look great

 

[timbowales]

Hallo,

The family albums reveal lots of overlooked features in the background, hidden behind images of the 'feral tribe' there was cow parsley at the side of the road, they grow everywhere in Franken. They are used to decorate the church for rural weddings or at least, they were popular in the '50-60s, much cheaper than flowers from the market. The richer the family, the greater the amount of cow parsley.

View attachment 218471

View attachment 218473​

Model cow parsley, these look very interesting and good value, a pack of 32

I seem to be obsessed with green stuff

Tim

Well didn't your mother keep telling you to eat your greens?
Tim T