Falcon in 7mm from heljan and other locomotives
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Does anyone fancy a full re-livery challenge?
Taken by me at Swindon 23rd May 1965.
Brian
Taken by me at Swindon 23rd May 1965.
Brian
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Someone will
. Incidentally, the lighting initially gives the impression the front quarter light has been blanked out.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Re-livery? that looks exactly like one of the models offered by Heljan.....or am the only one missing the bleedin obvious.
Nice shot NTL.
Mick D
mickoo
Western Thunderer
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm not seeing this as green - it looks two tone grey to me! The Class 42/43 next door is green.
I'll go back to the original photo print tomorrow.
Brian
I'll go back to the original photo print tomorrow.
Brian
Compton castle
Western Thunderer
Like this one, I have a few available
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
The Falcon is an impressive model although I have no interest in BR diesels and despite the earlier reservations.
On the latter, I believe Adrian hit the nail on the head about the camera angle. A lot of the prototype photographs were probably taken using the then standard 50mm lens and the camera at any height from 1.5m to 2m above ground or platform level.
The model photographs, I suspect, are taken on digital cameras possibly using the macro setting to get as close as possible. These are generally taken from an elevated position which would work out as if we were standing about 1m off the ground placing the camera about 2.5m to 3m off the ground thereby creating a different camera angle.
I have noticed when I have taken photographs using my digital camera on macro settings distortion creeps in to give a slight fish-eye effect.
IMHO the only way to obtain a visual prototype/model comparison (other than engineering drawings) is to photograph the model, using a 50mm lens, as close as possible to the angle as in a prototype photograph.
Not having seen the real locomotive, model or drawings and not being my interest, I wouldn't know about any inaccuracies.
On the latter, I believe Adrian hit the nail on the head about the camera angle. A lot of the prototype photographs were probably taken using the then standard 50mm lens and the camera at any height from 1.5m to 2m above ground or platform level.
The model photographs, I suspect, are taken on digital cameras possibly using the macro setting to get as close as possible. These are generally taken from an elevated position which would work out as if we were standing about 1m off the ground placing the camera about 2.5m to 3m off the ground thereby creating a different camera angle.
I have noticed when I have taken photographs using my digital camera on macro settings distortion creeps in to give a slight fish-eye effect.
IMHO the only way to obtain a visual prototype/model comparison (other than engineering drawings) is to photograph the model, using a 50mm lens, as close as possible to the angle as in a prototype photograph.
Not having seen the real locomotive, model or drawings and not being my interest, I wouldn't know about any inaccuracies.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
This would be the infamous photo we were talking about yesterday then? It looks very green on my monitor
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Mine is lime green and looks great, and runs even better, this is without doubt the best model they have done so far.
It draws 1.2 mps flat out and heljan quote the stall current as 6.8 amps !
I'm even tempted to get a blue one.
Richard
It draws 1.2 mps flat out and heljan quote the stall current as 6.8 amps !
I'm even tempted to get a blue one.
Richard
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thanks for all your comments abut my colour vision. There is clearly some aspect of this green that is escaping my eyes! I've just looked at the original print from my neg and it looks most definitely grey to me. In fact there is no disputing that the photos I took at the same time show "Warships" in BR green and I can see that most clearly. However, there's obviously something about this shade (which is meant to be BR green according to the oracles) which eludes me.
I've just found the photo below. I believe it's in the same livery as my photo in the works. It still looks grey to me!
Brian
Photo copyright Class 47.co.uk.
Brian
I've just found the photo below. I believe it's in the same livery as my photo in the works. It still looks grey to me!
Brian
Photo copyright Class 47.co.uk.Brian
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
It probably looks grey because it's a flat finish rather than the higher gloss afforded to other locos. It's also generally more grubby.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
The colour recorded on the film is not down to me!
I'm still struggling to understand how all the other green locos on that roll of film recorded as green but Falcon recorded as certainly a less green image than the others. At this distance in time we'll never know.
Suggest we put this to bed now. I'm now convinced that the loco was green when I saw it!
Brian
I'm still struggling to understand how all the other green locos on that roll of film recorded as green but Falcon recorded as certainly a less green image than the others. At this distance in time we'll never know.
Suggest we put this to bed now. I'm now convinced that the loco was green when I saw it!
Brian
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
Perhaps it's Chromatic Green ?
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
This would be the infamous photo we were talking about yesterday then? It looks very green on my monitor
Mine too
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
The future is parked up in a siding awaiting its first run on The Sheffield Pullman.