Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Somebody beat you to it Steph - I can read 73A on the shed plate
- would you like my glasses?
cheers
Mike
7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s
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Somebody beat you to it Steph - I can read 73A on the shed plate
- would you like my glasses?cheers
Mike
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Yep, please. I suspect I need that Anglepoise as well. Aaah, there we are; got it now...Somebody beat you to it Steph - I can read 73A on the shed plate
cheers
Mike
Steph
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
That looks superb Richard
Can you give us a bit more detail - whose kit it's built from etc.?
Can you give us a bit more detail - whose kit it's built from etc.?
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Looks pretty good!
I've been in touch with the owner recently so I know it's the Salisbury Cowans Sheldon so a little out of region. The train it's running with is by no means appropriate, but it took me a few years of research to work out what was (a pair of LSWR non-corridor coaches by my period of interest).
It looks well built though; I've seen a couple of those DJB kits built up and they seem to make up well; mine remains unbuilt in the stack...
I'd kill for a spare set of the LSWR jib carriers though, to go with my Sanspareil Ransome and Rapier...
Steph
I've been in touch with the owner recently so I know it's the Salisbury Cowans Sheldon so a little out of region. The train it's running with is by no means appropriate, but it took me a few years of research to work out what was (a pair of LSWR non-corridor coaches by my period of interest).
It looks well built though; I've seen a couple of those DJB kits built up and they seem to make up well; mine remains unbuilt in the stack...
I'd kill for a spare set of the LSWR jib carriers though, to go with my Sanspareil Ransome and Rapier...
Steph
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Now here's a slightly funny thing.
After looking at the photos a little better and on a decent monitor I picked up the name Elm's Lane as the crane's allocation. Now many moons ago, like probably 20-25years ago Dad and I saw a layout which I swear had the same name at York show. It wasn't huge, but oozed character and had a crane; this crane? as a centerpiece. We were told it was a limited edition kit and very rare (both true). At that time neither Dad nor I modelled in 7mm and I suspect neither of us had tackled a brass kit in anger at that point in time.
But it did stick with us; both of us were looking out for the kit of the beastie from the moment we got serious about the senior scale, until I happened upon the unbuilt and thankfully complete version that I now have sat on a shelf in the office as I progress the research to build the Salisbury breakdown train. That was at Telford on the bring-and-buy a couple of years ago.
The long and short of it is that I venture to shorten the odds slightly on how easy it is to get a good model out of the kit; I guess my own experience will bear that out (or not) in due course. It now emerges that I've only seen four of these cranes built; this one, the one on Hassel Harbour Bridge (which irritates the c^&% out of me, as it's finished in NER livery), both of which are well built and another two which were awful.
As an aside one of these latter 'awful' builds was by a guy at a local club when I was a nipper. He paid good money (over £600 IIRC) for it as an unbuilt kit and then managed to bodge it together, as was his unfortunate reputation and particular skill. I was offered a fair amount of money at one point to rebuild it for him, realised that it was an impossible job and I believe it had a one-way trip with the men from the council shortly after that. What a waste...
Sorry about waxing lyrical for a few moments there, funny what the memory does. Can you imagine what I'll be like when I'm retired? You can? Then kindly keep it to yourself...
Steph
After looking at the photos a little better and on a decent monitor I picked up the name Elm's Lane as the crane's allocation. Now many moons ago, like probably 20-25years ago Dad and I saw a layout which I swear had the same name at York show. It wasn't huge, but oozed character and had a crane; this crane? as a centerpiece. We were told it was a limited edition kit and very rare (both true). At that time neither Dad nor I modelled in 7mm and I suspect neither of us had tackled a brass kit in anger at that point in time.
But it did stick with us; both of us were looking out for the kit of the beastie from the moment we got serious about the senior scale, until I happened upon the unbuilt and thankfully complete version that I now have sat on a shelf in the office as I progress the research to build the Salisbury breakdown train. That was at Telford on the bring-and-buy a couple of years ago.
The long and short of it is that I venture to shorten the odds slightly on how easy it is to get a good model out of the kit; I guess my own experience will bear that out (or not) in due course. It now emerges that I've only seen four of these cranes built; this one, the one on Hassel Harbour Bridge (which irritates the c^&% out of me, as it's finished in NER livery), both of which are well built and another two which were awful.
As an aside one of these latter 'awful' builds was by a guy at a local club when I was a nipper. He paid good money (over £600 IIRC) for it as an unbuilt kit and then managed to bodge it together, as was his unfortunate reputation and particular skill. I was offered a fair amount of money at one point to rebuild it for him, realised that it was an impossible job and I believe it had a one-way trip with the men from the council shortly after that. What a waste...
Sorry about waxing lyrical for a few moments there, funny what the memory does. Can you imagine what I'll be like when I'm retired? You can? Then kindly keep it to yourself...
Steph
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi Steph,
Naturally I had a good look at the model when it was sat on the table, and it is a nice example.
What struck me was how easy it seemed to build. Most of the surfaces are flat, maybe lacking in a bit of depth, and if the castings were as good as they appeared, then it looked pretty straightforward. That doesn't mean quick of course, but not difficult. I think the bloke who made a horlicks of the kit did so in spite of and not because of the kit.
Cheers
Richard
Naturally I had a good look at the model when it was sat on the table, and it is a nice example.
What struck me was how easy it seemed to build. Most of the surfaces are flat, maybe lacking in a bit of depth, and if the castings were as good as they appeared, then it looked pretty straightforward. That doesn't mean quick of course, but not difficult. I think the bloke who made a horlicks of the kit did so in spite of and not because of the kit.
Cheers
Richard
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Richard,
Oh yes, it was definitely him, rather than the kit!
You're right about the kit; the parts on the whole are flat, but I can imagine a little care is needed to (for example) make sure the jib builds up straight and square. The castings are good quality too; the only problem I found is that I've got a couple of mis-formed teeth on a couple of the gears, but I should be able to position them so they're not visible. From memory I don't think the axleboxes are quite the right pattern either, but that should be relatively simple to solve during the build.
I think my biggest issue with the kit is the slewing ring, which has too few, too large rollers. Sorting this will get the kentledge (counter/tail weight) closer to the deck of the carriage which would improve the appearance. Of course that's fine for my model which will be unpowered!
Steph
Oh yes, it was definitely him, rather than the kit!
You're right about the kit; the parts on the whole are flat, but I can imagine a little care is needed to (for example) make sure the jib builds up straight and square. The castings are good quality too; the only problem I found is that I've got a couple of mis-formed teeth on a couple of the gears, but I should be able to position them so they're not visible. From memory I don't think the axleboxes are quite the right pattern either, but that should be relatively simple to solve during the build.
I think my biggest issue with the kit is the slewing ring, which has too few, too large rollers. Sorting this will get the kentledge (counter/tail weight) closer to the deck of the carriage which would improve the appearance. Of course that's fine for my model which will be unpowered!
Steph
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Steph,
I have had the good fortune of seeing close up the built-up 'prototype' of the kit, made by Dennis French, who was also heavily involved with the kit design with David Bailey of DJB. Dennis was also involved with many other kits within the DJB range. Dennis passed away a year or two ago and the majority of his models, both completed and the vast amount of kits, are with his son, in darkest Hampshire.
cheers
Mike
I have had the good fortune of seeing close up the built-up 'prototype' of the kit, made by Dennis French, who was also heavily involved with the kit design with David Bailey of DJB. Dennis was also involved with many other kits within the DJB range. Dennis passed away a year or two ago and the majority of his models, both completed and the vast amount of kits, are with his son, in darkest Hampshire.
cheers
Mike
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Mike,
Yep, Dennis wrote a 2-part article for the Guild Gazette on the design of the model which is very interesting. He managed to motorise his, even if in the final judgement the results of this endeavour seem to have been 'inconclusive'. I'd very much have liked the opportunity to have spoken to him about it in the hope of learning from his experience, in the end I decided that I will complete my cranes as rolling models rather than motorised ones.
Steph
Yep, Dennis wrote a 2-part article for the Guild Gazette on the design of the model which is very interesting. He managed to motorise his, even if in the final judgement the results of this endeavour seem to have been 'inconclusive'. I'd very much have liked the opportunity to have spoken to him about it in the hope of learning from his experience, in the end I decided that I will complete my cranes as rolling models rather than motorised ones.
Steph
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Nah.... go the whlle hog & move it all several thousand miles West, & South a bit, rebuild the whole lot track & all, & call it Heysideville....
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Nah.... go the whlle hog & move it all several thousand miles West, & South a bit, rebuild the whole lot track & all, & call it Heysideville....
IF EVER THERE WAS A CASE FOR WORKING 7mm LABEL CLIPS
If it were my layout I'd hang on to that crane by means of an endless supply of these:
lancer1027
Western Thunderer
Very nice Richard, a hydraulic on Heyside EXCELLENT. Be even better once you have finished your Warship and the pair of them can be seen together
Rob
, a hydraulic on Heyside EXCELLENT. Be even better once you have finished your Warship and the pair of them can be seen togetherRob
ZiderHead
Western Thunderer
Agreed
There was a large print of a 2800 in works grey hanging in my grandparents spare bedroom so Ive always had an affection for them.
3 LINK
Western Thunderer
Hi Richard,
I think you will find the 28xx is actually a 2884 class ( 38xx ), but as you have already stated your feelings towards the GWR you are forgiven
.
Lovely looking loco though, was it built from a kit or scratch built ? Scorpio now do a kit for one, but no one else does to my knowledge.
Cheers,
Martyn.
I think you will find the 28xx is actually a 2884 class ( 38xx ), but as you have already stated your feelings towards the GWR you are forgiven
.Lovely looking loco though, was it built from a kit or scratch built ? Scorpio now do a kit for one, but no one else does to my knowledge.
Cheers,
Martyn.
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Do Slaters not still produce their 28XX? I don't know whether their version will make up in to a 2884 though.
Brian
Brian