4mm Jan's 4mm WB: Getting Klingy With It

[Lyndhurstman]

School Levers
Swan neck brake levers for the N13 loco coal wagon. Making one was difficult - the first attempt was dimensionally weird - I’m not sure how it got away from me; maybe I filed the wrong side….


I’d made the original to tall, so it was a case of cutting it in half and soldering the bits into a semblance of something more prototypical. Then that was attacked with tin snips, piercing saw, and needle file..

Once satisfied, this became the former for the second, sweated on to a piece of NS sheet and the process repeated.




The second took less than an hour.

Cheers

Jan

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Binary Finery (J G Bollard Mix)

First up, a bit of gorgeousness from Morgan Design (courtesy of the Scalefour Stores) meets some constructive crudity from Your Humble Scribe. Brian’s Dean Churchward ratchet even has teeth! It’s a lovely bit of design, and I’m relieved I only need one The other bracket is just some fret, soldered and filed to suit as the opposite anchor, that sits along the centre line of the wagon. I’ve tried to guesstimate the shape from photos; some seem to be sawtooth like this one, while others are more of an offset peak. I guess it all depends on the amount of space….



Second verse, different from the first..

Inspired by styrene_engineer on Instagram (a miracle worker in their medium), I thought I’d have a go at making a replacement buffer housing for the GWR N13 loco coal wagon. So I fired up the Unimat 3 and filed a taper. Then I added a couple of rings of 5 thou cut from a sheet. . I didn’t make the head - that’s from MJT!

Cheers

Jan

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Quadratic Equations
The last knockings - or glueings - of all things N13.
The LMS coupling hooks were the first additions, followed by the brake lever mount under the floor at each end, and the cross shaft and brake lever itself. I've also added fillets of 5 thou Plasticard to the corners (which I rounded slowly with a fine file).


TTV (Turn Turtle Viewing) to show the modifications necessary from Cooper-Craft RCH to GWR Dean Churchward (Brian Morgan defines this as DCI cross-cornered, or DCIX). I've cunningly hidden my homemade bracketry, but the V on one side has been removed, and a tad of Plasticard inserted behind the brake assembly to denote the internal brace for the short cross-shaft.

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Finally, a closeup of the Brian Morgan brake lever. A lovely bit of work; it's just a pity the fret doesn't have many spares! It took about 20 minutes to fashion the lever, and about 40 minutes to fit them (Shakin' Stevens has nothing on Jumpy Jan!)

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I really should try and represent the rivets on the inside, but I'm having no joy in finding internal shots; I presume the rivets would be round headed, rather than flush, and the external strapping around the door on the outside would be replicated internally.

Then all I have to do is paint it - I'm going to make it BR, so it will be grey, and I shall BRW-ise one of the running numbers from Atkins et al.

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

Quadratic Equations
The last knockings - or glueings - of all things N13.
The LMS coupling hooks were the first additions, followed by the brake lever mount under the floor at each end, and the cross shaft and brake lever itself. I've also added fillets of 5 thou Plasticard to the corners (which I rounded slowly with a fine file).
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TTV (Turn Turtle Viewing) to show the modifications necessary from Cooper-Craft RCH to GWR Dean Churchward (Brian Morgan defines this as DCI cross-cornered, or DCIX). I've cunningly hidden my homemade bracketry, but the V on one side has been removed, and a tad of Plasticard inserted behind the brake assembly to denote the internal brace for the short cross-shaft.
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Finally, a closeup of the Brian Morgan brake lever. A lovely bit of work; it's just a pity the fret doesn't have many spares! It took about 20 minutes to fashion the lever, and about 40 minutes to fit them (Shakin' Stevens has nothing on Jumpy Jan!)

View attachment 192697​

I really should try and represent the rivets on the inside, but I'm having no joy in finding internal shots; I presume the rivets would be round headed, rather than flush, and the external strapping around the door on the outside would be replicated internally.

Then all I have to do is paint it - I'm going to make it BR, so it will be grey, and I shall BRW-ise one of the running numbers from Atkins et al.

Cheers

Jan

Such attention to detail.

I now have a new-found appreciation of all matters ‘wagonry’, Jan, if that’s even a word

I also admire your bravery wafting a hot iron near to such fine plastic detail

No doubt you’ll have exercised caution with a carefully prepared approach of some sort, while I just trust to luck …..

Cheers,

Jon

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Such attention to detail.

I now have a new-found appreciation of all matters ‘wagonry’, Jan, if that’s even a word

I also admire your bravery wafting a hot iron near to such fine plastic detail

No doubt you’ll have exercised caution with a carefully prepared approach of some sort, while I just trust to luck …..

Cheers,

Jon

Hello Jon
Thank you. I’m very chuffed. I can’t help myself, it seems; I keep coming back to this stuff, when there’s so much else to be doing.

Thanks again

Cheers

Jan

 

[Lyndhurstman]

It must be something I 108
Nothing ground breaking, or Earth shattering. Just a few hours doing something fun.

More resuscitation. From the same glue factory as the N13 comes this classic. As delivered, it was 4 shoe, and heavy with glue. It was broken down and regurgitated back up as a box standard two shoe. The axle holes in the kit are slots, and so I melted some top hat bearings in. Veeery carefully….


The lever arms don’t discriminate between clutch and non. So maybe I shouldn’t have added a crosshaft

It may get used to test some chipping techniques on. At some point.

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

I came over all cold at mention of the word ‘melted’

Top work, Jan, and on-trend from the re-cycling aspect

Looking forward to the ‘chipping techniques’; notepad and pen at the ready

Jon

 

[Lyndhurstman]

I came over all cold at mention of the word ‘melted’

Top work, Jan, and on-trend from the re-cycling aspect

Looking forward to the ‘chipping techniques’; notepad and pen at the ready

Jon

Thanks as ever for your kind support, @jonte
As for recycling; I’m a poor man’s John Curry; something of a cheapskate

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

Thanks as ever for your kind support, @jonte
As for recycling; I’m a poor man’s John Curry; something of a cheapskate

Cheers

Jan

Like it

Jon

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Unhinged
Thanks to my inability to compromise (not to mention unsee stuff that irks me ) The overscale hinges of the Airfix 16 Tonner have been cut off, and replaced with something more prototypical. A couple of hours work, I think. It looks a lot better for it, even if I do say so myself! I’d be lost without my magnifying visor….

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

Unhinged
Thanks to my inability to compromise (not to mention unsee stuff that irks me ) The overscale hinges of the Airfix 16 Tonner have been cut off, and replaced with something more prototypical. A couple of hours work, I think. It looks a lot better for it, even if I do say so myself! I’d be lost without my magnifying visor….
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Cheers

Jan

The fine touch of a surgeon, Jan. You missed your calling

Although such attention to detail can be a dangerous thing for one’s sanity: where do you stop?

Jon

 

[Lyndhurstman]

The fine touch of a surgeon, Jan. You missed your calling

Although such attention to detail can be a dangerous thing for one’s sanity: where do you stop?

Jon

Hello @jonte
Thank you. Although I'm sure you'd change your tune if you could witness my cackhandedness first hand!


Indeed. There are petards I have selfelessly hoisted. Is it a blessing, or is it a curse? Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
#otherloafsareavailable

It's fun. Not even a trip hazard of Fabaceae, never mind a hill. But fun. And I'm only treading in the footsteps of others (most notably in this instance the work of Geoff Kent - and this is in no way up to his level, believe me.) Consider it a cheese discovered by a Chinese chef; something of a homage.

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

Hello @jonte
Thank you. Although I'm sure you'd change your tune if you could witness my cackhandedness first hand!


Indeed. There are petards I have selfelessly hoisted. Is it a blessing, or is it a curse? Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
#otherloafsareavailable

It's fun. Not even a trip hazard of Fabaceae, never mind a hill. But fun. And I'm only treading in the footsteps of others (most notably in this instance the work of Geoff Kent - and this is in no way up to his level, believe me.) Consider it a cheese discovered by a Chinese chef; something of a homage.

Cheers

Jan

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Cut ‘n’ Shut

Oh my, where am I going? I found this Hornby 7 plank in my spares box. It was on a 10ft underframe - that was missing one complete axlebox/spring moulding and had a chunk out of the top plank on one side. What DO people do to these things? ‍♂️ Anyway, I found a nice picture of a Dia. 2102 in LMS Wagons Vol 1. It’s a 9 ft WB, and looks like it’s related, so I’ve chopped some length out either side of the door and stuck it back together.


Filler next Then an RCH underframe.

Cheers

Jan

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Trip(le) Working
Session 3 of filling. The Ammomig Arming Putty is probs a bit too thin for this sort of work. But it was either that or Milliput, and that - for me - is the opposite for this application. I’m hoping that it will clean up nicely when I eventually finish…

Cheers

Jan

 

[jonte]

Trip(le) Working
Session 3 of filling. The Ammomig Arming Putty is probs a bit too thin for this sort of work. But it was either that or Milliput, and that - for me - is the opposite for this application. I’m hoping that it will clean up nicely when I eventually finish…
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Cheers

Jan

I wasn’t aware that ‘mig’ produced the stuff, Jan

Be interesting see how you get on with it. Not too keen myself on Milliput for the smaller scales.

Jon

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Hello Jon
I can’t recall why I got it; probably suckered by the brand (for all my anti-capitalist mindset, I do let myself down from time to time .) I think it came from eBay. I seem to recall I bought it to replace some Squadron white that had gone hard; despite having the cap screwed on tight.

Milliput is great, but it’s definitely more of a modelling clay than a filler. And it never seems to keep long in my experience.

As part of this whole moment, I’ve researched the subject on the internet, and there seem to be many preferences and opinions. A lot of people seem to sway towards Tamiya Basic for this sort of work, but then some say it shrinks, and others just don’t get in with it at all. I think I might return to Squadron…

Cheers

Jan

 

[matto21]

Hello Jon
I can’t recall why I got it; probably suckered by the brand (for all my anti-capitalist mindset, I do let myself down from time to time .) I think it came from eBay. I seem to recall I bought it to replace some Squadron white that had gone hard; despite having the cap screwed on tight.

Milliput is great, but it’s definitely more of a modelling clay than a filler. And it never seems to keep long in my experience.

As part of this whole moment, I’ve researched the subject on the internet, and there seem to be many preferences and opinions. A lot of people seem to sway towards Tamiya Basic for this sort of work, but then some say it shrinks, and others just don’t get in with it at all. I think I might return to Squadron…

Cheers

Jan

Hi Jan,

The Tamiya stuff is good, it does inevitably shrink a bit but it's easy to work with.

Otherwise grab some Cataloy from Halfords - cheaper than "modelling" filler too!

Holts Cataloy Knifing Putty 100g | Halfords UK

Shop the latest Repair chips and scratches in paintwork for a smooth finish with Cataloy Knifing Putty. at Halfords UK

www.halfords.com

Matt

 

[Lyndhurstman]

Katsu Cutie: you know the drill
Not much progress on the Cut ‘n’ Shut; reverses I’ve had a few… despite my indifference to Milliput, I thought I’d give it a second chance. But despite thoroughly mixing it, I’m left two days later with something that is still pliable. So I’ve been digging it (and washing it) out. More archaeological than anything! I’ll keep plugging away…

However, I did manage (with the help of some sound advice from Robert Holton on FB) to put my drill prevarication to the sword, and took delivery of this little nugget today.

Proxxon it ain’t, but it seems not to have any runout issues (I don’t have a DTI, but my eyeball reports happiness, and Robert’s feedback was positive in this regard) and it was £60. So the bank manager will be happy.

Cheers

Jan

 

[adrian]

Katsu Cutie: you know the drill
Not much progress on the Cut ‘n’ Shut; reverses I’ve had a few… despite my indifference to Milliput, I thought I’d give it a second chance. But despite thoroughly mixing it, I’m left two days later with something that is still pliable. So I’ve been digging it (and washing it) out. More archaeological than anything! I’ll keep plugging away…

However, I did manage (with the help of some sound advice from Robert Holton on FB) to put my drill prevarication to the sword, and took delivery of this little nugget today.
View attachment 195539
Proxxon it ain’t, but it seems not to have any runout issues (I don’t have a DTI, but my eyeball reports happiness, and Robert’s feedback was positive in this regard) and it was £60. So the bank manager will be happy.

Cheers

Jan

It looks a sturdy little unit and any pillar drill is better than no pillar drill. I use mine daily so always a useful investment.