2mm Let's Build a Midland 0-6-0!

WM183

WM183

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Hi Tim,

I will use one of the little coreless motors then! I have a small handful of them, bought from ebay for... 3 or 4 euro each?

I have also ordered my tender wheels, a set of 3d printed axleboxes and springs for the tender, and an etch of brake gear. Once the tender wheels are in hand, I can assemble both chassis and get it to move!
 
WM183

WM183

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I have made the splashers, and added some trim to the cab. I am ready to fit the boiler, firebox, and smokebox... just as soon as I figure out how to make the smokebox. Everything clears with rods in place, and once the brake gear arrives, I can finish the rolling chassis and install the gearbox.


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WM183

WM183

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Today I have made the boiler! I followed the method laid out on Ian Smith's wonderful Modbury website, in the section on the Dean Goods. Just a piece of tube, slitted, annealed, and folded down to make the firebox sides, and with a split ring of the same tube slid over the front to make the smokebox. I must now find and shape a suitable piece of brass for the saddle, but - details aside, the loco itself is structurally complete!

I need to turn the chimney, safety valve cover, smokebox door/front, and steam dome up on my lathe. Does anyone know where I can purchase gravers? I'd like to not have to learn to make them myself mid-project.

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Tim Watson

Tim Watson

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That is looking really lovely.

If you have a broken needle file then it doesn’t take much grinding into a chisel shape to make a useful graver. You need a support which can be another tool set parallel to the work.

Quite honestly, a lot can be done with needle files after roughing out main dimensions with conventional tooling.

Tim
 
WM183

WM183

Western Thunderer
Tim Watson said:
That is looking really lovely.

If you have a broken needle file then it doesn’t take much grinding into a chisel shape to make a useful graver. You need a support which can be another tool set parallel to the work.

Quite honestly, a lot can be done with needle files after roughing out main dimensions with conventional tooling.

Tim
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Hi Tim,

I do have some broken needle files to practice on. I'll see if I can make a usable graver out of one of them. I will also do what I can with needle files. There's a nice 2mm association vid on Youtube about making a dome for an L&Y tank, and it looks... doable?

Thanks much for the advice!

Amanda
 
WM183

WM183

Western Thunderer
Tim Watson said:
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TFW’s workshop

This is my way of making boiler fittings. My Skittle Alley is long overdue some fittings, but tube modelling is occupying the bench at present.

Tim
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Thank you! This is about how I'd hoped to proceed, except I have no collet chuck. My Unimat and its non-standard thread size has made getting one very expensive. I hope to get a new lathe this year when we get our tax refund. For now, I'll just have to be very careful using my 3 jaw I guess.
 
WM183

WM183

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I have become rather smitten with the Midland & Great Northern Railway, which my lovely little Midland engines (at least tender 0-6-0s and 4-4-0s) were very well represented on, along with some Great Northern / Ivatt J4 class 0-6-0s. some simply beautiful Victorian era Beyer-Peacock 4-4-0s with outside cyliners, and a wonderful assortment of tank engines in 0-6-0T and ST, 4-4-2t, and 0-4-4t flavors, circa 1925 or so. The Midland engines had an assortment of B, H, and G7 boilers by then, and the color scheme for the 0-6-0s had become a darker brown, allowing some more variety. I think 2mm scale is well-suited to show the landscape of the area...

Where to get books on the rather eclectic array of carriages (GN, Midland, LNWR, and GER, among others) that ran along the line...
 
simond

simond

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WM183 said:
Thank you! This is about how I'd hoped to proceed, except I have no collet chuck. My Unimat and its non-standard thread size has made getting one very expensive. I hope to get a new lathe this year when we get our tax refund. For now, I'll just have to be very careful using my 3 jaw I guess.
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Amanda,

The thread will be M14x1, and collet chucks are available here. Presumably also in continental Europe.


For example

www.ebay.co.uk

Spannzangenhalter ER16 New For Emco Unimat 3+ 4+ PC Collet Holder | eBay

1 collet chuck for ER, ESX 16 collets for EMCO Unimat 3 + 4 + PC EMCO, item no. 171 140, Recording: thread M14x1, Collet holder ER16 for EMCO Unimat 3, 4, PC new, Port pince further accessories and spare parts for EMCO-Mmachines available e.g. B for Unimat PC, SL, U3 + 4: Please note my...
www.ebay.co.uk

Simon
 
Tim Watson

Tim Watson

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You don’t actually need a collet chuck for making boiler fittings, so long as you keep the work in the conventional chuck for the duration of the turning operations.

Tim
 
Mike W

Mike W

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That's a lovely little Unimat lathe, just like one my father had and I learned on. 1mm thread, so easy to judge approximate lengths and depths - one turn = 1mm - can't hurt yourself (much!) because if a tool digs in the belt slips. Adaptable as a pillar drill. Only thing my Dad did was bolt it to a piece of c3/4in plate steel to give more rigidty. OK it has shortcomings, but ideal for many things.

Mike
 
WM183

WM183

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We have hit a snag!

I have some 8mm coreless motors, and planned to use one of these. However, it's too big to fit in the tender beneath the floor and the deck, even if I do a bit of creative bodgery. I will have to get some smaller motors, I suppose. Midland tenders aren't exactly large, even the 3500 gallon ones are only 4' high from floor plate to deck, which is 8mm in 2mm scale. Add in the thickness of the deck, and... yeah.

Blergh!

Amanda
 
AJC

AJC

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WM183 said:
We have hit a snag!

I have some 8mm coreless motors, and planned to use one of these. However, it's too big to fit in the tender beneath the floor and the deck, even if I do a bit of creative bodgery. I will have to get some smaller motors, I suppose. Midland tenders aren't exactly large, even the 3500 gallon ones are only 4' high from floor plate to deck, which is 8mm in 2mm scale. Add in the thickness of the deck, and... yeah.

Blergh!

Amanda
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The obvious thing to seek out is Jerry Clifford's work - he's built an awful lot of Midland tender engines (most of them painted blue, eventually) - and to copy what he does. There was an example in a recent-ish MRJ, a Kirtley 0-6-0, I think...

Adam
 
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