Lancastrian
Western Thunderer
Heather, not 106, but it's sister 107, with shed code below the data panel.
Ian
Ian
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Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
The image I'm referring to was actually posted by Phil earlier in this thread.
What appears to be the shed code is clearly to the right of the centred data panel. Now, this image dates from slightly later than I am trying to recreate - the head code box treatment, for example - but in the interests of "getting as right as possible" this is the look I’m going for. I suppose it depends on when the loco went through works and when it may have needed repainting enough that new vinyls were applied.
What appears to be the shed code is clearly to the right of the centred data panel. Now, this image dates from slightly later than I am trying to recreate - the head code box treatment, for example - but in the interests of "getting as right as possible" this is the look I’m going for. I suppose it depends on when the loco went through works and when it may have needed repainting enough that new vinyls were applied.
Lancastrian
Western Thunderer
Hi Heather,
It does look as though the shed code has been in that position for a while, even though it is brighter than the data panel. The loco was allocated to Gateshead from 1975 and as you say, the shed code box isn't in the usual place. By the 1980's a lot of locomotives didn't even have an identifying shed on the body and many of the photos I took show this. I'd say you'd be safe in placing it in that position, but then it begs the question, where is the one on the other side ?
Ian
It does look as though the shed code has been in that position for a while, even though it is brighter than the data panel. The loco was allocated to Gateshead from 1975 and as you say, the shed code box isn't in the usual place. By the 1980's a lot of locomotives didn't even have an identifying shed on the body and many of the photos I took show this. I'd say you'd be safe in placing it in that position, but then it begs the question, where is the one on the other side ?
Ian
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Heather
Stick to the photo, in reality many locos didn't have one and those that did have them, they were stuck all over the place.
Richard
Stick to the photo, in reality many locos didn't have one and those that did have them, they were stuck all over the place.
Richard
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Brian Daniels
Western Thunderer
If you look at my picture earlier on this thread or 37106 on GD the shed code on No2 end is below the data panel.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Well I’ll be darned! It’s not easy, this engine picking game!
I'll check with the client and see if he’d like it different both sides. A talking point, at least! I need to check in on how filthy he’d like things, too.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Stickers done, save the shed codes. I’m awaiting client updates on preferred positions. The Railtec waterslide transfers went on okay, but the loco numbers have problems adhering. The numeral 6, in particular, seems to like peeling away. I shall see how things pan out as they dry off. I think I have alternatives in stock should the need arise.
Paul Cheffings
Active Member
Hi
Did you use Microscale Microsol / Microset on them as I found the Railtec transfers can curl like that and the instructions suggest a drop of PVA instead.
Cheers
Paul
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Heather,
this has happened to me in the past and I have successfully overcome the problem with a dab of diluted 'Glue n'Glaze' under the offending letters/numbers and wiping off any excess with a damp kitchen towel.
regards
Mike
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
I just used plain tap water, as instructed. It’s only one numeral that’s being recalcitrant. I think your idea, echoed by Mike, will solve it.
Cheers Mike! I tried a dab of gloss acrylic varnish, but I think the PVA route might be better. I’ll let things dry properly before I tackle it, and then get some varnish over the top to protect everything.
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
I was going to say, it's a Gateshead machine, what's to discuss? - but I think that might've been Haymarket....
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
You are quite correct. It’s a separate panel that Heljan created so they could reproduce the various exhaust variants. I haven’t glued it in, and it occasionally drops out.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Hi Heather
Looking at Summer 1982 edition of the Platform 5 Motive Power Pocket Book, 37106 was at Gateshead and described as "Xot", which translates as X for Dual brakes, o for no train heating equipment (boiler removed) and the t means the boiler water tank has been converted to an additional fuel tank.
Richard
Looking at Summer 1982 edition of the Platform 5 Motive Power Pocket Book, 37106 was at Gateshead and described as "Xot", which translates as X for Dual brakes, o for no train heating equipment (boiler removed) and the t means the boiler water tank has been converted to an additional fuel tank.
Richard
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Looking back a bit further the oldest Platform 5 I have is Winter 1980 and in that edition 37106 is shown as GD xi so at Gateshead the boiler only isolated from use, but no dual fuel tank. The Summer 1980 edition does have it as having dual fuel tanks.
Richard
Richard
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Thanks Richard. 106 is aimed somewhere in the mid-1970s, so the boiler and dual fuel tanks are intact.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Sheesh. A long time with no updates.
Well, everything was thrumming along nicely before Kettering. The transfers were sort of okay, and I’d got a satin acrylic varnish coat on. That was also okay, but I felt some areas needed some further attention with the airbrush, especially before thinking about reassembly and weathering.
The end result of a second coat was sub-optimal. I became very disillusioned with it. I left the model sat on the bench, and hoped an idea would come to the fore on how to correct things. Nothing happened.
Today, I’m trying again. All I need is a good, clean and smooth satin varnish coat and I can move on. I’ve started with a paint mule to see if the varnish was the problem. I’ll report back later if anything positive happens.
Well, everything was thrumming along nicely before Kettering. The transfers were sort of okay, and I’d got a satin acrylic varnish coat on. That was also okay, but I felt some areas needed some further attention with the airbrush, especially before thinking about reassembly and weathering.
The end result of a second coat was sub-optimal. I became very disillusioned with it. I left the model sat on the bench, and hoped an idea would come to the fore on how to correct things. Nothing happened.
Today, I’m trying again. All I need is a good, clean and smooth satin varnish coat and I can move on. I’ve started with a paint mule to see if the varnish was the problem. I’ll report back later if anything positive happens.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Further satin coats failed. I think what happens is where the original surface was variable, new coats just soak in and end up matt.
After throwing the remaining toys out of my pram, and having a particularly bad dose of Muttley for the rest of the day, I had a good night's sleep (for a change). Thinking anew, I’ve applied a first coat of gloss over the offending article, in the hopes it will give a more uniform surface again.
I think it will probably be wise, although this acrylic nonsense says it dries in next to no time, to leave things alone for the day and see how it looks tomorrow. Sounds like an excuse to go for a walk in the spring sunshine.
After throwing the remaining toys out of my pram, and having a particularly bad dose of Muttley for the rest of the day, I had a good night's sleep (for a change). Thinking anew, I’ve applied a first coat of gloss over the offending article, in the hopes it will give a more uniform surface again.
I think it will probably be wise, although this acrylic nonsense says it dries in next to no time, to leave things alone for the day and see how it looks tomorrow. Sounds like an excuse to go for a walk in the spring sunshine.