7mm Ressaldar's Workshop - a paintshop diversion
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Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
some further progress, the battery box - from the spares box. courtesy of Slaters Southern PLV, has been fitted and the dynamo should be in my hot little hands this evening, so will be fitted tomorrow.
In the meantime, three coats of a frame dirt/roof dirt wash have been applied and I have now started using the Tamiya weathering blocks, in conjunction with a mixture of Carrs weathering powders.
battery box side
regulator box side
bogie and solebar close up - the grot is building up nicely
Will now leave it for a day or two to dry/harden, then do a bit of burnishing etc.
cheers
Mike
In the meantime, three coats of a frame dirt/roof dirt wash have been applied and I have now started using the Tamiya weathering blocks, in conjunction with a mixture of Carrs weathering powders.
battery box side
regulator box side
bogie and solebar close up - the grot is building up nicely
Will now leave it for a day or two to dry/harden, then do a bit of burnishing etc.
cheers
Mike
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
I don't suppose you have a close up of the regulator on one of these Mike ?........I got a battery box like yours at Kettering, but no regulator as yet (maybe I could scratch build one)
Cheers Phill
Cheers Phill
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
rather than clog up the 08 thread, I'll take this thread over as a 'Workshop' so here goes with the finishing of the Tower Brass GWR Colletts.
As I said on the 08 thread, the 'problem' with the finishing, is the fitting of the windows into the corridor sides - the gap is all of 3.5mm, which is fine for getting the glazing material in initially, the task is how you a) apply the adhesive evenly through the windows on the other side of the coach - the inner corridor windows preclude too much lateral movement and b) offer the galzing to the window from below as you have to cut the bottom of the glazing material to clear the hinge/door furniture protusions on the inside of the outer wall.
The interiors will be getting further coats of Tamiya acrylics after the glazing is installed and then the seats will be fitted. The ends will be painted tomorrow, having allowed the sides to harden before applying masking tape and maskol.
I think that low tack masking tape may be the answer to the positioning aspect, used in conjunction with plasticard - me thinks that I should have paid more attention to the Blue Peter sticky back plastic ideas all those years ago!
As Phill said in his 08 posting, I could try Tower, I'll see how I get on with the tape idea first. If I do speak to Tower, I'll also ask why they had the partitions fitted into the body to begin with as they could have been fitted to the floor and just had tabs off of the sides for the threaded holes to hold the body and chassis together, especially as the sides are only gently curved and the partitions do not go right across from one side to the other and therefore the body could have been eased over the curved end of the partition without any problem.
cheers
Mike
As I said on the 08 thread, the 'problem' with the finishing, is the fitting of the windows into the corridor sides - the gap is all of 3.5mm, which is fine for getting the glazing material in initially, the task is how you a) apply the adhesive evenly through the windows on the other side of the coach - the inner corridor windows preclude too much lateral movement and b) offer the galzing to the window from below as you have to cut the bottom of the glazing material to clear the hinge/door furniture protusions on the inside of the outer wall.
The interiors will be getting further coats of Tamiya acrylics after the glazing is installed and then the seats will be fitted. The ends will be painted tomorrow, having allowed the sides to harden before applying masking tape and maskol.
I think that low tack masking tape may be the answer to the positioning aspect, used in conjunction with plasticard - me thinks that I should have paid more attention to the Blue Peter sticky back plastic ideas all those years ago!
As Phill said in his 08 posting, I could try Tower, I'll see how I get on with the tape idea first. If I do speak to Tower, I'll also ask why they had the partitions fitted into the body to begin with as they could have been fitted to the floor and just had tabs off of the sides for the threaded holes to hold the body and chassis together, especially as the sides are only gently curved and the partitions do not go right across from one side to the other and therefore the body could have been eased over the curved end of the partition without any problem.
cheers
Mike
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
I would try Tower first Mike, but looking at the pics it may be possible to do what I did with the 121 & use a fairly high tac double sided sticky tape ?.........you could maybe stick small pieces round the inside of the windows from the outside? ........unless of course Tower or any other Thunderers have used a better idea 
Phill
Phill
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
The only other way I can see is cut away enough of that false floor to get in.........but that would be my last resort
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Thanks to MTH who furnished me with lining sheet 23, I have now finished the Tower/San Cheng Colletts, apart from the security bars in the van end of the D127 and the yellow route restriction/classification dots on the ends of both coaches (they were built with running on other Companies lines in mind). Also taken the plunge with weathering the Lionheart pannier and putting in the crew and the lamp over the smokebox door.
So I now have a representation of a Fairford branch train, complete with it's ex Southern PLV
I can now concentrate on the layout, starting with the boundary wall which will be fixed to the 3 x 2 in the last picture to hopefully bring some more depth to the scene, then I will decide whether to go for the station or for Phill's suggestion of a yard.
cheers
Mike
So I now have a representation of a Fairford branch train, complete with it's ex Southern PLV
I can now concentrate on the layout, starting with the boundary wall which will be fixed to the 3 x 2 in the last picture to hopefully bring some more depth to the scene, then I will decide whether to go for the station or for Phill's suggestion of a yard.
cheers
Mike
westernfan
Western Thunderer
Looking good Mike 
Is the pannier sound fitted ?
Is the pannier sound fitted ?
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
I cannot understand the 'finish' - both coaches were sprayed with Railmatch aerosols, yet the finish is totally different on each coach. The roof was sprayed with Halford's 'Light grey' and the underframe with their Sating black. Weathering was Railmatch frame and roof dirt airbrushed on followed by Tamiya weathering blocks brushed on as a wash.
I also prefer the carmine and cream - it suits the coach much better, to think that BR changed from the bright and airy to the dull - was that a general reflection of/for the mid-fifties?
I had a bit of Canopy glue overspill on the inside of the maroon coach corridor and was able to remove it using Testor's Acrylic cleaner on a cotton bud - it was just long enough and narrow enough to fit between the gap between the bottom of the corridor partition and the return 'leg' of the outer wall.
cheers
Mike
I also prefer the carmine and cream - it suits the coach much better, to think that BR changed from the bright and airy to the dull - was that a general reflection of/for the mid-fifties?
I had a bit of Canopy glue overspill on the inside of the maroon coach corridor and was able to remove it using Testor's Acrylic cleaner on a cotton bud - it was just long enough and narrow enough to fit between the gap between the bottom of the corridor partition and the return 'leg' of the outer wall.
cheers
Mike
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Looking fantastic Mike, I do like the grubbiness
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
Good stuff Mike glad you managed to glaze the colletts without too much hassle
glad you managed to glaze the colletts without too much hassle
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Graham,
sorry, but I seem to have missed your posting
.The initial colour/coat is Halford's Light Grey, which seems to correspond quite well with the actual coulour. I then airbrushed frame dirt - mainly to the chassis and lower parts of the bodysides but also gave a light spraying to the roof, this was followed by roof dirt - in the opposite manner to the frame dirt - starting with a good application to the roof and ends and coming lightly down the sides. It was then left for about 4 hours and then using a softish 20mm wide flat artists brush dipped in thinners and briefly touched onto a piece of kitcken roll to remove the excess, I initially work from the roof centreline to the gutterline over a 75mm length of the roof at a time until the 'streaks' start to appear, then go from gutter to centreline, again using thinners and continue this process all along the roofline, turn the coach around and repeat on the other side. The aim being to get the 'rain and dirt' running down to the gutter. When satisfied, I then leave to dry off and once happy with the result, I apply Tamyia weathering blocks, used like watercolours, generally following the same procedure as before.
I did slightly overdo the thinners at one end and this resulted in the 'mixture' running down the end of the coachto the bottom of the body which then ran back along the body towards the centre - the end next to the pannier bunker, I have left this to fully dry and will apply some rust colouring along it to finish it off - photo to follow.
cheers
Mike
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
What you have described is Nature in action.... the thinners has run under the influence of gravity and run in a way which replicates (probably) the prototype. I have just looked at the referenced picture and I like the result.
regards, Graham
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
as well as missing Graham's posting, my post of the 33 weathering that I made yesterday seems to have gone off into the clear blue yonder rather than appearing here so hopefully this one goes through.
I am quite happy with the result, but may do a bit more touching in, we'll see. The only mods that I have done to the loco itself are the removal of the mould lines from the roof and cutting off and repositioning the coil springs on the bogies.
The paints are airbrushed frame & roof dirt from Railmatch, followed by Tamyia weathering blocks, both watered down and straight from the block. The fuel tanks and coil springs were brushed with neat oil for a more realistic finish.
Hope that it meets with approval.
cheers
Mike
I am quite happy with the result, but may do a bit more touching in, we'll see. The only mods that I have done to the loco itself are the removal of the mould lines from the roof and cutting off and repositioning the coil springs on the bogies.
The paints are airbrushed frame & roof dirt from Railmatch, followed by Tamyia weathering blocks, both watered down and straight from the block. The fuel tanks and coil springs were brushed with neat oil for a more realistic finish.
Hope that it meets with approval.
cheers
Mike