oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I really like a K. Ace Kit? In which case I know what has been gone through to reach this result. 
Brian
Brian
7mm Stroudley Park
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John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Oh that really is very nice.
John
John
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Considerable scratch building and therapy for bad language. Yes, it’s and Ace kit. My one and only. Seriously Brian, I found the account of your build in WT most helpful. Thank you.I really like a K. Ace Kit? In which case I know what has been gone through to reach this result.
Brian
Regards,
Ian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm pleased it was helpful, Ian. A bit late for us but there are some really good photos of Ks coming up quite soon on the Tim Mills thread. I didn't have them, of course, when I was building mine.
Brian
Brian
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Thank you John. I was determined to have a K Class. Determination paid off in the end. I also enjoyed the scratchbuilding as well and I quite understand when modellers say it is easier/preferable to scratchbuild. Some of the parts in this kit were awful and just had to be re-made.
Well, we are model makers after all!
Regards,
Ian
Weathering Removal
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
In the past, I’ve always used my airbrush in the garage for weathering using Floquil weathering colours (all necessary health precaution were taken).
Recently, I thought I’d try the latest trend using more user friendly paint. The effect I was hoping to achieve is a clean, lightly weathered, cared for finish. I am not pleased with the result as the Terrier looks too grubby and should have been much more subtle.
Is there a way to remedy the situation without destroying the paint underneath?
The weathering was in oil paint. When I was an art student, I’ll paint used to take ages to dry, so I thought I would be able to ‘work’ the weathering until I was pleased with it but it dried quicker than enamels.
Regards,
Ian
Recently, I thought I’d try the latest trend using more user friendly paint. The effect I was hoping to achieve is a clean, lightly weathered, cared for finish. I am not pleased with the result as the Terrier looks too grubby and should have been much more subtle.
Is there a way to remedy the situation without destroying the paint underneath?
The weathering was in oil paint. When I was an art student, I’ll paint used to take ages to dry, so I thought I would be able to ‘work’ the weathering until I was pleased with it but it dried quicker than enamels.
Regards,
Ian
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Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
That's a tricky one as there are various oil paint removers out there on the market - probably too powerful.
What is the finish underneath. Enamel, Cellulose, Acrylic?
My initial thought would be to use one of the water soluble oil paint brush cleaners.
In the past I've used Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) and even the Tamiya paint thinners to remove excess weathering. All with cotton wool buds/tips dipped in the solution and wipe carefully in a downwards motion. With just enough solution on the tip to soften the oil paint layer.
This removes most of the excess weathering and in some cases leaves enough behind in the right places for a rain streaked finish.
The only caveat being mine is on acrylic finishes as I very rarely use enamel paints other than the London Transport colours.
What is the finish underneath. Enamel, Cellulose, Acrylic?
My initial thought would be to use one of the water soluble oil paint brush cleaners.
In the past I've used Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) and even the Tamiya paint thinners to remove excess weathering. All with cotton wool buds/tips dipped in the solution and wipe carefully in a downwards motion. With just enough solution on the tip to soften the oil paint layer.
This removes most of the excess weathering and in some cases leaves enough behind in the right places for a rain streaked finish.
The only caveat being mine is on acrylic finishes as I very rarely use enamel paints other than the London Transport colours.
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Thanks for the tip Dave. The loco is painted with Precision Phoenix so I’m hoping it’s going to withstand the IPA. Looking forward to giving it a try.
Regards,
Ian
Regards,
Ian
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Just be careful around the decals (and lining decals if used) as not to take any ink off.
I would assume an enamel varnish was used to seal these.
I would assume an enamel varnish was used to seal these.
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
You are correct Dave, enamel varnish.
Weathering Experiment at Stroudley Park
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
My stock of coaches kits was not getting any smaller, so I decided 2024 will be a year of coach building. Building coach after coach is not good for the soul. A slight weathering deviation was called for to retain sanity.
Although my preferred method of weathering is with an airbrush, I thought I’d try a couple of experiments with different media and methods. First up is the oil paint experiment. The finish I was seeking was used, cleaned and cared for but I do not think this has been achieved to my satisfaction. The paint I used was Windsor and Newton, Winton oil colour, which seemed to dry much quicker than the oil paints I remember at art college. Maybe, I should have bought some retarder. Even so, I am reasonably pleased with the end result.
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The next experiment was under taken with weathering powders and I was surprised with the end result.
During the process of applying the powders, I was having doubts about doing this. However, my trusty glass fibre brush came to the rescue. I rubbed gently over the weathering powers with the brush. Some may consider this approach brutal but I like the way the glass fibre brush lets down the harshness and density on the planks and forces the powder into the plank gaps leaving a slight residue on the plank surface. This produces a slightly different finish to the airbrush approach. All this was on top of Powsides lettering and a well and truly dried coat of matt varnish.
Oh well, back to the coaches…..
Although my preferred method of weathering is with an airbrush, I thought I’d try a couple of experiments with different media and methods. First up is the oil paint experiment. The finish I was seeking was used, cleaned and cared for but I do not think this has been achieved to my satisfaction. The paint I used was Windsor and Newton, Winton oil colour, which seemed to dry much quicker than the oil paints I remember at art college. Maybe, I should have bought some retarder. Even so, I am reasonably pleased with the end result.
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The next experiment was under taken with weathering powders and I was surprised with the end result.
During the process of applying the powders, I was having doubts about doing this. However, my trusty glass fibre brush came to the rescue. I rubbed gently over the weathering powers with the brush. Some may consider this approach brutal but I like the way the glass fibre brush lets down the harshness and density on the planks and forces the powder into the plank gaps leaving a slight residue on the plank surface. This produces a slightly different finish to the airbrush approach. All this was on top of Powsides lettering and a well and truly dried coat of matt varnish.
Oh well, back to the coaches…..
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SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Getting Busy at Stroudley Park
The 0 Gauge Guild Gazette always offers tempting new products in the Trade News section. The latest edition was no exception.
The mail bags from Mudmagnet Models really caught my eye and they arrived a couple of days after ordering. I wasn’t disappointed.
When reading the Gazette, I envisioned this scenario such as this with the mail van.
The mail bags were primed with an aerosol primer, when dry, sprayed with Halfords Matt Khaki. After drying, the bags were painted with a Revell Matt dark brown which was immediately removed with a slightly damp brush which has been dipped in turps and wiped to remove most of the turps.
This is akin to dry brushing but removes the paint instead leaving dark brown in the crevices and creases and leaving a toned down version of the Khaki as a base colour. Highlights were then picked out with a light grey dry brushing to emphasise the highlights.
I’ve been research aerosol theatrical fog to add to the atmosphere. Nevertheless, I’m pleased with the result so far……
and for those of you watching in colour….
A foggy night time scene would, I think be more appropriate for a mail train.
Regards,
Ian
The 0 Gauge Guild Gazette always offers tempting new products in the Trade News section. The latest edition was no exception.
The mail bags from Mudmagnet Models really caught my eye and they arrived a couple of days after ordering. I wasn’t disappointed.
When reading the Gazette, I envisioned this scenario such as this with the mail van.
The mail bags were primed with an aerosol primer, when dry, sprayed with Halfords Matt Khaki. After drying, the bags were painted with a Revell Matt dark brown which was immediately removed with a slightly damp brush which has been dipped in turps and wiped to remove most of the turps.
This is akin to dry brushing but removes the paint instead leaving dark brown in the crevices and creases and leaving a toned down version of the Khaki as a base colour. Highlights were then picked out with a light grey dry brushing to emphasise the highlights.
I’ve been research aerosol theatrical fog to add to the atmosphere. Nevertheless, I’m pleased with the result so far……
and for those of you watching in colour….
A foggy night time scene would, I think be more appropriate for a mail train.
Regards,
Ian
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Tea Break at Stroudley Park
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SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
In an idle moment, I thought the goods platform and LBSC Goods Lock-up needed a better cameo.
My box of S&D figures provided two suitable candidates for what I had in mind.
Using a spare arm holding a drink and scratch building a broom ( yes, I know I’m sad!) yielded the result of a quiet moment I was seeking.
I must really get on with some proper modelling now.
Regards,
Ian
My box of S&D figures provided two suitable candidates for what I had in mind.
Using a spare arm holding a drink and scratch building a broom ( yes, I know I’m sad!) yielded the result of a quiet moment I was seeking.
I must really get on with some proper modelling now.
Regards,
Ian
timbowales
Western Thunderer
But that is proper modelling?
SouthernFan Ian
Western Thunderer
Thank you for your kind comment Timbo,
I was referencing the part built locomotives and other stock that has languished unbuilt for many months. At least I will not be alone!! Regards,
Ian
I was referencing the part built locomotives and other stock that has languished unbuilt for many months. At least I will not be alone!! Regards,
Ian