7mm Wagons For Westerfield

ZiderHead

Western Thunderer
I wouldnt use washing up liquid - the domestic stuff has additives which remain on the surface (oils to "protect" skin.)

Cilit might be good - iirc its mostly phosphoric acid which will strip oils and prime the surface for soldering/painting (wash it off with boiling water.) Plus its recommended by Barry Scott! :D
 
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SteveO

Guest
Cheers mate, I'm pretty sure we've got some of that hidden away somewhere. That Baz sure is a persuasive fella!

Good to see you in the 'future jobs' thread on the other side!
 

ZiderHead

Western Thunderer
The chap suggesting nobody should be allowed to spend more than £20k on a car cracked me up, not sure how closing Land/Range Rover, Jaguar, RR, Aston Martin, Lotus, Ariel, Bentley etc would help create british jobs :confused:

I cant resist a little SBB occasionally so I save it for the other place ;)
 
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SteveO

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I have another question regarding van door runners. In the picture below you can see a trimmed out etch and one that I've folded up.

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The instructions are pretty vague but they appear to show this runner folded up flat against the back edge, but this would leave huge ugly folding tabs at the bottom . In my naive way of thinking about this I decided to fold them up with a gap for a wheel to run in, just like they would be on the prototype, but even then you can still see the remnants of those half etched folding lines. It just looks ugly to me.

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Do I fold them up flat, solder them together then file off the tabs or do I find a way of keeping the gap while avoiding the tabs? The half etched folds provided seem way too much simply to fold them flat.
 

ZiderHead

Western Thunderer
Surely runners are normally a continuous channel for the wheels to run in? If so its strange that the kit parts arent just a rectangle with 2 etched fold lines ... :confused:
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Surely runners are normally a continuous channel for the wheels to run in? ...
MR vans had sliding doors which used wheels for left-right movement - the wheels had grooves and the runner was a plain bar spaced away from the bodyside.

regards, Graham (who has a penchant for MR 8T and 10T covered wagons)
 
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SteveO

Guest
Thanks
MR vans had sliding doors which used wheels for left-right movement - the wheels had grooves and the runner was a plain bar spaced away from the bodyside.

regards, Graham (who has a penchant for MR 8T and 10T covered wagons)
Thanks Graham, do you have a close-up of this arrangement so I can follow it? I'm tried looking elsewhere PB's site and general Googling but can't find an appropriate pic. Cheers in advance!
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
There are some MR vans at Norchard, Chasewater and Butterly... I have no recollection of seeing such wagons in the South East.

The Midland Record Supplement on Wagons has official drawings of the 8T van... some of the individual issues of Midland Record have official drawings of other MR wagons with sliding doors, for example Fruit Vans. Whilst the original drawings are out of copyright (drawings dated 1911 or thereabouts) there may be concerns in regard to publishing extracts from Midland Record.

regards, Graham
 
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SteveO

Guest
These are LNER-built wagons, in part supplied to LMS so I guess they would follow LNER practice – if this is different from LMS?
 
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SteveO

Guest
When I get a free moment I will embark on the next stage of the build – soldering on all the door-related parts (handles, locks, rollers and washer plates). I have them all trimmed out and prepped and stored in a specimen jar (of all things!).

My question is, as I've been handling these quite a lot, is there a way to easily clean them before soldering them? What I'm aiming for is to squirt a couple drops of 'magic fluid' in the pot, twirl it around a bit and dry them off on the radiator. The problem is that they are all very small parts so my usual method of Vimmed toothbrush or fibre pen is not going to work very well.

I would take a picture but my phone took a swim off the coast of Sardinia at about the same time as I did...
 
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SteveO

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Just a bump on the question above – is there an easy way of cleaning small parts ready for soldering?

I have a small container with four separate sections that I can keep them in once cleaned. When I need them, I can simply pick them up with tweezers to avoid touching them again.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Just a bump on the question above – is there an easy way of cleaning small parts ready for soldering?

I have a small container with four separate sections that I can keep them in once cleaned. When I need them, I can simply pick them up with tweezers to avoid touching them again.

I've had good results with squirting some Viakal in a spare spray can lid and dropping small parts in for 10mins, then rinse out with warm water, pull them out and lay to dry on kitchen towel and when dry, store ready for soldering.
 
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SteveO

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You legend. I've found an old tea strainer that I can use for rinsing. God bless tea bags!

Thanks!
 
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SteveO

Guest
I went to my tried and tested method of using distilled vinegar in the end, which I know works a treat and did so again. Plus I already had some and didn't have to go shopping.

I used on of those infuser gadgets that you put loose tea in or herbs or spices in a mulled wine. This again worked a treat and in a couple hours of occasional stirring the brass was as shiny as was when it was etched. The problem occurred when I rinsed the parts under a tap in the sink. The water came out much quicker than I expected and washed a few parts out of the infuser and down the drain. Oh dear, or words to that effect.

I took the U-bend off and searched for the parts in the sludge in the tube. Happy that I had found them all I dried them by a window and set off to the club for a soldering extravaganza. Half a days worth of cussing and singeing produced the results below. Please excuse my lack of cleaning up at this stage.

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The keen-eyed of you will notice that I didn't, in fact, find all the parts that were washed away down the plug hole. The bottom right door has a missing door roller - a deceased casualty of the war between gravity and stupidity. I didn't bring a broach with me so I couldn't size up the holes for the door handles but I'll prep these for another battle next month.
 
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SteveO

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Thanks Rob, I'm afraid I'm suffering from too many fingers in too many pies. I should be on a bit of a roll now though as work has got a lot less busy.
 
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