Yorky D's Küchentisch - Purists look away now.....

[Yorkshire Dave]

an inspirational and novel approach to creating a subtle result

I thought if underpainting was good enough for the likes of Turner and the Old Masters of the Dutch and Flemish Renaissance then why not try it on models.

This is a completely different approach to my SSW GP9 as the 33/0 has a vast amount of smooth panels unlike the GP9 which is cluttered with doors and British diesels were washed more often than SSW/SP diesels.

 

[Jordan]

This is a completely different approach to my SSW GP9 as the 33/0 has a vast amount of smooth panels unlike the GP9 which is cluttered with doors and British diesels were washed. more often than SSW/SP diesels.

There; just corrected that bit for you, Dave.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Ha ha, well done Jordan .

They were only clean when they rolled off the production line or...... earlier when they wore Black Widow livery.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Some more fiddling but rest assured Rome hasn't burnt down.

This time with the radiator parts. I made up pieces supplied in the PRMRP kit (right) but these looked too chunky and there is no daylight between the structural supports and the radiator grille behind. Added to which the casing is a sloppy fit in the hole in the body side created for the radiator.

So I decided to start making my own from styrene (left) which also allows daylight behind the structural supports. Only one side has been completed so far.


The external radiator grilles, ah ha. the chain link fencing (left) is supplied with the aforesaid detail kit which is rather crude. I searched around my spares box and found some finer etched grille (right). Although finer it's not fine enough but will have to do until I can find some. When looking at prototype photographs the radiator grille almost appears invisible.

Here is the fine grille over the radiator.


One item I'm finding irksome after painting are the body side louvres (louvers). After much little deliberation my conclusion is that they are totally incorrect- the curved corners should at the top, there should only be five and not six in a group and are too wide anyway at a scale 12'' instead of 6''.

I would have sorted these out today but I cannot find my Archer Decals Louver sheet. It's almost as if the Bermuda Triangle in a corner of the workshop .

This selective enlargement of a Jon Biglowe (copyright owner) photograph from t'interweb shows the louvres.


It also reveals the drawing I used for the structural supports in the Modern Locomotives Illustrated Class 33 book is wrong. I have the vertical support too far to the front and should have looked a a photograph first . Oh well. Fortunately it's easy to rectify .

 

[oldravendale]

Hi Dave.

At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, and additionally in the knowledge that these photos are rather early for your chosen model and may even be of the wrong variant here are two of mine.

Clearly, on the off side of the loco there were two sets of louvres side by side.. With the benefit of belief I reckon that the same side as your photo shows only one set of louvres. Deffo curved corners at the top, but looking at the B & W shot there appears to be a slit rather than louvre as part of the group above the top full louvre, if you see what I mean, making groups of six. Make of it what you will!

Lovely job, though.

B



D6504. Ashford. 5 April 1961


D6558. Eastleigh Works. 23 May 1965.

Both my copyright

 

[Andrew Thompson]

Does this help

33109 (16)

Andrew

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Thanks Brian and Andrew.

Brian, your pictures are useful, the D6504 at Ashford shows the underframe detail well whilst D6558 at Eastleigh confirms my observations about the horn roof casing - it's not entirely flat. It also shows how early in it life it had to come in for minor repairs to the cab front. For technical and detail photographs you cannot beat black and white.

Andrew, this clearly shows 5 louvres per group and that they are mounted from behind through a cut out in the bodyside ...aargh . However I'll not be replicating this.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I have now corrected the visible structural frame in the radiator openings.


And some further corrections around the top of the cab doors.....

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

A new set of louvre decals arrived and have now been fitted. Although not quite correct I think they are an improvement over the original Lima moulding.

I also couldn't resist adding some weathering around the cant rail, doors and lower edge......

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

This is something I've been meaning to build for ages and finally got around to it - mounting all of my programmers onto one board and a folding DCC programming track....

It's made up from pine shelving and has a P48 and standard O scale tracks.







The Roco basestation and decoder programmers. The programmers are mounted to the board with velcro.



The whole ensemble folds up into one of these.

 

[richard carr]

Thats pretty keen on DCC to have 4 different programmers, do you really need them all ?

Richard

 

[TheSnapper]

Hi Dave

Where's the Zimo MXULFA?...!!

Tim

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Thats pretty keen on DCC to have 4 different programmers, do you really need them all ?

The Roco item is the base station for the Multimaus. The QSI is there for the US stuff with OEM fitted decoders. I generally use ESU and program ny own sounds. The SPROG covers everything else.

Where's the Zimo MXULFA?...!!

Still in the factory...... I've never used Zimo sound decoders and unlikely to as they do not have the range of US sounds unlike ESU. I've used their non sound decoders and they along with ESU have the best motor drive parameters for fine tuning.

 

[isleofthanet]

Some more fiddling but rest assured Rome hasn't burnt down.

This time with the radiator parts. I made up pieces supplied in the PRMRP kit (right) but these looked too chunky and there is no daylight between the structural supports and the radiator grille behind. Added to which the casing is a sloppy fit in the hole in the body side created for the radiator.

So I decided to start making my own from styrene (left) which also allows daylight behind the structural supports. Only one side has been completed so far.
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The external radiator grilles, ah ha. the chain link fencing (left) is supplied with the aforesaid detail kit which is rather crude. I searched around my spares box and found some finer etched grille (right). Although finer it's not fine enough but will have to do until I can find some. When looking at prototype photographs the radiator grille almost appears invisible.
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Here is the fine grille over the radiator.
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One item I'm finding irksome after painting are the body side louvres (louvers). After much little deliberation my conclusion is that they are totally incorrect- the curved corners should at the top, there should only be five and not six in a group and are too wide anyway at a scale 12'' instead of 6''.

I would have sorted these out today but I cannot find my Archer Decals Louver sheet. It's almost as if the Bermuda Triangle in a corner of the workshop .

This selective enlargement of a Jon Biglowe (copyright owner) photograph from t'interweb shows the louvres.
View attachment 64217

It also reveals the drawing I used for the structural supports in the Modern Locomotives Illustrated Class 33 book is wrong. I have the vertical support too far to the front and should have looked a a photograph first . Oh well. Fortunately it's easy to rectify .

Dave,
Where did you get the Archers Decals louvre sheet?
Alan

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Alan

I purchased them direct from Archer in the US Archer Surface Details

They can also be purchased in the UK from here 3D Surface Detailing
https://www.dccsupplies.com/cl-579/3d-surface-detailing.htm
Archer also produce rivet, welding beads, tread plate and other surface detail decals in various scales.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Continuing with the radiators I made up some from styrene earlier this week and used the mesh supplied in the PRMRP detail kit to simulate the radiator grilles/fins.


They were then painted yesterday and installed.



And these arrived today....

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

A further delivery today...

Fine mesh by Aber ordered from Hannants. The sheets are roughly 75 x 45mm.


So this is what I was originally going to use for the radiator grille...... yuk

This is what I used eventually . Aber S 12.

A bit of a no brainer really......

.....and here's a comparison of the Aber mesh on the left and the finest I had in my spares box on the right. Aber fine mesh.

 

[Jordan]

"Fine" doesn't even begin to describe that Aber mesh!! It must be pretty delicate stuff?

Meanwhile, Pete Harvey's step etches remain a mystery of metal origami to me I suppose I should've asked (didn't think of that until rather too late in the exercise), but I certainly couldn't even begin to guess how to bend up the frets for my Class 31, and rather bodged them up. Some of us ain't at The Back of the Class for nothing.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I've been faffing around on and off with the Cl33 trucks over the last two days.

The PRMRP truck chassis have been used and there's nothing scientific about this as it's the drive I'm mainly interested in as a proving ground for the U23B.

The etches were duly folded, bearings installed and soldered at the correct wheelbase to form an ungainly U channel. However they are rather agricultural and of their day. I just had to modify them to create some daylight and give an impression of the traction motors.

Left is the original, right the modified truck chassis.

And now with the truck sideframes. Again, these are of their day and are adequate for the experiment. However, they will receive some additional detail and eventually be covered with a layer of grime.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Not much happening apart from dropping into town for le Tour de Yorkshire.

Photographed this


Before the Tête de la Course




Then the first part of peloton




And the derrière