Rye Sands

Willl

Active Member
Thank you all, I must say I am absolutely blown away.

That's a truly beautiful cameo layout - thank you so much for sharing it on Western Thunder. I think the Uckfield Show must go in the diary and I'll look forward to seeing Rye Sands. Uckfield is one of the friendliest model railway shows on the planet.

Thank you Paul, I'm hugely flattered. I've been fortunate enough to see Old Parrock at a few shows (and have read the WT thread countless times) and it is a major source of inspiration for me. Indeed, my previous cameo (Pattyndenne, for more see that other forum) was a sort of Old Parrock rip-off, set slightly further east in the High Weald (around Goudhurst).

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I do like the monotone sillohete backscene, Something I did with my 10 year old juniors when I was a teacher.
I'm glad you like the backscene, it was something I had envisioned right from the start, but which I really struggled to execute. I originally used a stencil which produced huge amounts of overspray, and after endless respraying (interspersed with lots of bits of dirt getting stuck in the wet paint - should have learned not to spray paint outside during a storm!) I ended up just hand painting it. As a result, its a bit blotchier than i'd like, but I can't really rectify that given the buildings are glued in front of it! As above, the silhouette style backdrop is something I copied from Pattyndenne and Old Parrock in turn.

Presumably the baseboards are handbuilt, as opposed to kit form? What type of ply is it and where did you obtain it from?

Terry

Yes the baseboards are fully handbuilt. I actually bought a Tim Horn baseboard originally but then became impatient and started making my own... inevitably it then turned up a few days later!

It's all 5mm ply (except for the trackbed which is 9mm salvaged from some packing crates). It started off as bendy as a noodle, but with the trackbed, webbing underneath, and the fascia added its actually amazingly stiff but also very light - I think it's actually lighter than a Tim Horn board, and dare I say it stronger.



A bit more progress last night. I started weathering up P class 178. This loco, with the 3D printed ballast wagons shown above, was the exact combination I had in mind when I set out with Rye Sands*. It took longer than expected to arrive but was well worth it. The brass showing through on the dome is based a photo of the real thing.

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* I think part of the success of Rye Sands was that I had a very clear image of what I wanted when I began the layout. Everything from the backscene to the buildings and stock was planned before I started actually making anything. This is definitely not an approach I've been able to replicate with other abortive projects started before or since!

Will
 

NHY 581

Western Thunderer
Hi Will,

None of my Accurascale P class, without exception, run as well as their Hattons predecessors. All were lumpy to very lumpy on receipt. All have improved to varying degrees but frankly, they are not as good as the Hattons jobs. Going forward, should they do a batch 2, I will be very, very selective regarding any potential purchases.

I've had the bodies off a couple and I can see no obvious reason for this on initial inspection. They are to all intents and purposes identical so it has to be down to assembly or slight differences in the production of the components from the originals. It's interesting that both the Andrew Barclay tanks and the P Class have had issues which were not experienced with the Hattons examples.

Rob
 

Willl

Active Member
My 178 and Bluebell both seem to have a slight tight spot which makes them slow noticeably at one point in the wheels' rotation. 178 has improved significantly so I'm hoping Bluebell will too, although the quartering also seems to be off on Bluebell.

Something that I also hadn't really noticed (as I've not run my Hattons one in a few months) is just how much smoother newer releases e.g. The Rapido y7 are even than a loco that was considered a very good runner 7 years ago.

I'm glad to have the new run though, as I missed the first one by virtue of not being in the hobby at that point. The new ones also don't seem to suffer from the banana shaped running plates that many of the Hattons run seem to have (mine included)

Will
 

NHY 581

Western Thunderer
Ironically, the only one of my Hatton examples that has a wonky footplate is 178 ( SE&CR Wainwright livery )

They are rather jolly little chaps though.

Rob
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Well Will what can I say.....! All the above comments have beaten me to the post and I certainly second all. Such an evocative cameo with lovely modelling. The fact that you are portraying the pre-grouping era is an added bonus.
Welcome and one day I might see it in the flesh, now you're going to keep Rob on his toes!!!!
I also have to thank Rob for persuading you to show us these layouts.
Thank you both
Cheers Julian
 

Phil O

Western Thunderer
Hi Will,

None of my Accurascale P class, without exception, run as well as their Hattons predecessors. All were lumpy to very lumpy on receipt. All have improved to varying degrees but frankly, they are not as good as the Hattons jobs. Going forward, should they do a batch 2, I will be very, very selective regarding any potential purchases.

I've had the bodies off a couple and I can see no obvious reason for this on initial inspection. They are to all intents and purposes identical so it has to be down to assembly or slight differences in the production of the components from the originals. It's interesting that both the Andrew Barclay tanks and the P Class have had issues which were not experienced with the Hattons examples.

Rob

Rob,

No idea how the RTR stuff goes together, but if it's possible to disengage the motor and worm from the drive axle, you could push the chassis along and see if there's any tight spot or if the quartering is a fraction out in one of the wheels.
 

NHY 581

Western Thunderer
I must confess to feeling slightly gutted that the P class never made it as far as Southampton :(.

John Bruce.

July 1949 saw 31325 at Eastleigh for trials at Winchester. Later on, it was at Bournemouth covering for the resident B4 on the Poole Harbour -Hamworthy goods turn but wasn't used. Returned to Eastleigh, it worked a few turns on the Bishops Waltham branch. Further use at Winchester followed into 1951.

Southern liveried 1558 appeared at Eastleigh in 1950 for use at R.N Bedenham.

Further reports of P class at RN Bedenham in 1953.

So, there's your precedent, John.

Rob
 

John Bruce

Active Member
Terry, what had you been drinking on that day you saw the P Class, it ought to have been Strongs!

Rob, I'm sure I've seen photos of one at Winchester (I think-it's my age), RN Bedenham is a new one on me but as it's down in Gosport It wouldn't surprise me if it was now covered in houses or weeds.

John.
 

NHY 581

Western Thunderer
Terry, what had you been drinking on that day you saw the P Class, it ought to have been Strongs!

Rob, I'm sure I've seen photos of one at Winchester (I think-it's my age), RN Bedenham is a new one on me but as it's down in Gosport It wouldn't surprise me if it was now covered in houses or weeds.

John.

RN Armaments Bedenham is still extant, John.

Rob
 

Willl

Active Member
I think everyone should own a P or two.. or four

I've been on a bit of a wagon kick lately. The most recent batch are an Oak Hill Works SER covered van and a pair of lovely SER 8 ton single bolsters, which are sold by Chuffinghell (Chris) over on that other forum. They're really high quality kits and were a doddle to put together, with all the hardware supplied. The only modification I had to make was a bit of tungsten putty on the underside of the wagons, to add a little weight. This is the first time I've used tungsten putty and I'm a little unsure of its longevity but it seems to be holding for now.

I need to find a load for the bolsters. I'm thinking some logs (twigs) or maybe a few sections of rail.

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I've also got a few more wagons inbound from Chris, including a rather lovely looking step-ended SER wagon, which I think will go very nicely on Rye Sands...

Will
 

John Bruce

Active Member
July 1949 saw 31325 at Eastleigh for trials at Winchester. Later on, it was at Bournemouth covering for the resident B4 on the Poole Harbour -Hamworthy goods turn but wasn't used. Returned to Eastleigh, it worked a few turns on the Bishops Waltham branch. Further use at Winchester followed into 1951.

Southern liveried 1558 appeared at Eastleigh in 1950 for use at R.N Bedenham.

Further reports of P class at RN Bedenham in 1953.

So, there's your precedent, John.

Rob
You chaps are so mean kicking a guy when he's down or in a weakened state! I have given in and bought a pre=owned Hatton P class from a certain internet auction site, it is in lovely sober British railways black (early crest) as befits my 00 modelling era.

John Bruce.
July 1949 saw 31325 at Eastleigh for trials at Winchester. Later on, it was at Bournemouth covering for the resident B4 on the Poole Harbour -Hamworthy goods turn but wasn't used. Returned to Eastleigh, it worked a few turns on the Bishops Waltham branch. Further use at Winchester followed into 1951.

Southern liveried 1558 appeared at Eastleigh in 1950 for use at R.N Bedenham.

Further reports of P class at RN Bedenham in 1953.

So, there's your precedent, John.

Rob
 

Willl

Active Member
I've got one of the SER vans to do at some point. I'm still not 100% on 3D printed stuff and prefer good old kits. Is that a Prickley Pear SER coal wagon at the back?

Yes it is, I've built two recently. To be honest I'm of the opposite opinion. The prickley pear kit was a real challenge (mainly due to the buffers - I've got absolutely no idea how you're supposed to drill a large enough hole for them) whereas most 3D prints are a doddle.

The quality of the 3D stuff is definitely less consistent though, but Chris's models are excellent.

Will
 
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