7mm BR Diesels

[Mr Grumpy]

Hi Lee,
Has the soldering iron been out to play??

 

[Healey Mills]

Hi Lee,
Has the soldering iron been out to play??

Ha, oh yes... and strangely I found it quite easy too with the parts clean and judicious use of the right flux

The worst part was drilling through the copper wire with a 0.45mm bit!!

Cheers
Lee

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I glued my self to a piece of wire today....a tad worrying for the next build!!

 

[Healey Mills]

I glued my self to a piece of wire today....a tad worrying for the next build!!

That's where the 'Glue Buster' comes in useful

 

[Mr Grumpy]

But what if I'm stuck to the bench and can't reach it??

 

[Healey Mills]

That's why it's always close by .... and I always have the cap off too

You'll be fine on the next build, I'm looking forward to it too.

 

[Healey Mills]

After a day spent filling and sanding I really haven't got much to show for my efforts on 060. However, one item I did finally do was add the windscreen wipers to 118;



I really need to pluck up the courage to weather the loco.

Cheers
Lee

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I had s chap round with a green Heljan 40 last week. I'm not sure who's decoder was in it but with the subtle weathering and sound it really was awesome!
Just don't get carried away, take a look at @richard carr 's 40 and as people say, use good photographs of the real thing! Remember, if this was a real loco, you would be standing a fair way from it to view it in this size !

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Hi Lee

For what it's worth here are my only two photographs of class 40s both taken at Crewe in the early 80's which may give an idea of weathering.

40 073 on a southbound container train (photo not cleaned up yet). The container train in the foreground was hauled by a 47 and there just happened to be a gap in the containers to snap this 40.


This one taken inside on a Crewe works open day.

 

[mickoo]

Hi Lee

For what it's worth here are my only two photographs of class 40s both taken at Crewe in the early 80's which may give an idea of weathering.

40 073 on a southbound container train (photo not cleaned up yet). The container train in the foreground was hauled by a 47 and there just happened to be a gap in the containers to snap this 40.
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This one taken inside on a Crewe works open day.
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Dave, the top photo is Stafford mate, North end with the loco heading south on the Up Fast

Spent many a happy hour there myself as it was the easiest WCML station to get to from Macclesfield.

MD

 

[FiftyFourA]

This is a very nice bit of modelling. I do like to see railways presented as they were in real life - warts an' all, so go ahead and weather it. If done well it improves the character of a model and I am sure you will get plenty of good advice from the people on this forum (other forums are available, but to be honest they not as good as this one ).

I look forward to seeing a 'realistic' class 40 or 2 in these pages shortly - keep up the good work.

Peter

 

[richard carr]

Lee

There are loads of photos of 40118 on Flickr so pick ones from your time period and try to get the same look.
To me the main thing is that weathering is a multi coloured effect so you need to use 3 or 4 different dirt colours especially on the bogies as they tend to vary from almost black in places to to a bright orange in others.
Just don't over do it, I have seen so many good model ruined by over zealous weathering that just looks cr*p.
You have a lovely paint job to start with so please don't ruin that.

Richard

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Dave, the top photo is Stafford mate, North end with the loco heading south on the Up Fast

Correct, I have checked my other photographs since. I was wrong initially .

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Just don't over do it, I have seen so many good model ruined by over zealous weathering that just looks cr*p.

Hi Lee

As Richard says 'don't over do it' and as alluded to earlier by others - photographs are essential and in my view as is studying the real thing. Although the diesels running today are pretty much the same class the weathering does not alter much. I probably wouldn't look at diesels on preserved lines as they tend to be kept pretty clean.

If you have not tried weathering before there are alot of weathering 'how to's' out on t'interweb, especially wargamers websites. The best way to bite the bullet is to try several weathering mediums (enamels, powders, oil paints, acrylics) on an old wagon body, find the technique which suits your style and go with that.

Start with light weathering and see how you go from there. It took me several attempts with different weathering mediums and techniques to find the ones I am now comfortable with.

 

[Healey Mills]

Thank you everyone for your help and encouragement.

I have been practicing my weathering techniques on a class 33 body shell that I purchased a while ago so when I feel confident enough I will have go on the class 40.

I also have this to do too:







Yorkshire Dave (great name!!!), thanks for posting the pics. I have lots of class 40 photos from the 80's and always research a loco before building them so I have quite a few pics of 118 already. I like the second photo taken inside Crewe works..... do you know the loco number? I would hazard a guess at either 016 or 118 as the loco you photographed is fitted for hauling royal trains.

Cheers
Lee

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

fitted for hauling royal trains.

Excuse the ignorance, I'm not well up on BR diesels (unless it is a Cl33) - what details tell you it was a Royal Train fitted loco? Is it something blindingly obvious or general knowledge?

If it's the case then it's number would more than likely be 40 118 as I looked on t'web and 40 016 was withdrawn in 1981. My photographs were taken in 1983/4.

 

[Steph Dale]

Excuse the ignorance, I'm not well up on BR diesels (unless it is a Cl33) - what details tell you it was a Royal Train fitted loco? Is it something blindingly obvious or general knowledge?

If it's the case then it's number would more than likely be 40 118 as I looked on t'web and 40 016 was withdrawn in 1981. My photographs were taken in 1983/4.

Dave,

I'm wondering if it's a Loudaphone fitting - you may remember we had inconclusive discussions about how this contraption might have been fitted to the Royal T9 to allow communication between the engine and train.

But I don't know what I'm looking for, so will await the reply with great interest.

Steph

 

[mickoo]

Steph,

Your correct, Royal class 40's had a small circular cover plate for the communication connection on the front door, the one without the discs on and at the same height as the lower middle disc. I thought there were more than two to be honest, but my interest is more early WCML so there may have been more with that fitting back then?

It is indeed 40 118, note paint scab above tail light, perfect match.



This is one of my more favourite 40 images, it's also Manchester Piccadilly and early 80s so my spotting era, just how I remember it.

40118 Manchester Piccadilly 20/07/84 by Rudolf_Diesel_V16, on Flickr

MD

 

[Healey Mills]

Excuse the ignorance, I'm not well up on BR diesels (unless it is a Cl33) - what details tell you it was a Royal Train fitted loco? Is it something blindingly obvious or general knowledge?

If it's the case then it's number would more than likely be 40 118 as I looked on t'web and 40 016 was withdrawn in 1981. My photographs were taken in 1983/4.

Dave,

I'm wondering if it's a Loudaphone fitting - you may remember we had inconclusive discussions about how this contraption might have been fitted to the Royal T9 to allow communication between the engine and train.

But I don't know what I'm looking for, so will await the reply with great interest.

Steph

Hi Steph and Dave,

If you look at the front of the loco, just to the right hand side of the lower center headcode disc there is a small circular plate with three bolts on it. The locos fitted for Royal Train duties (which generally ran in pairs) were fitted with a communication link. The small circular plate hides the hole for the comms connecting wire.

Locos fitted: 016, 020, 033, 094, 101, 108, 118

Cheers
Lee

 

[Steph Dale]

I feel educated, informed and entertained!

I guess that, as on the Southern, this fitting meant they were also preferred motive power for officers' trains...?

Steph