7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
.... go back and revisit the buildings, at which time Jordan (and anyone else interested) will be invited to contribute an interior:)
Ahh... 'money where your mouth is' time..?? :oops:

Certainly a good way for fellow Thunderists to be a small part of this wonderful layout! :bowdown:
We'd need some dimensions to work within, and the general idea of what is required for each room....:thumbs:
 

Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Has the bird on the right got it's head stuck through the shed roof :eek: ? :D

Could we have some details of how the plants in the garden & allotment were made ? :)

Phill
 
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Isambardme

Guest
Yes, the ballast is indeed sieved cat litter courtesy of Clive and his long suffering cats (unused, should you ask, despite the similar later colouration we applied!)
The latest ballast I applied last Saturday at our regular working session turned out to swell up more than our previous ballast. Clive later checked & found out the new packet advertised it's easy clumping qualities. Dooh!! We're desperately trying to find some of the old formula cat litter instead. You'd think the supermarket would have asked us before changing to a new formula! Anyway, after much careful removal of wet over swollen ballast & later scraping of dried ballast this Wednesday, it was decided that the ballast can stay but will need more patient work (hopefully with some use of the older ballast/litter.
As for the scenery, we wanted to get some longer static straw coloured dried grass. I went to our 'local' DCC supplies only to find out that the 12mm long Noch straw colour had sold out. We still hope to use this soon to represent the distinctive longest straw dried grass that you often see around embankments etc -think it is last year's long grass that has died.
Allan has done the allotment using Nock and Greenscene products, pigeon loft from Skytrex I believe, pigeons & droppings from I know not where, Brambles from rubberised horsehair , hairspray & ground foam scatter, I found the runner bean sticks on a hogweed type of plant while waiting for son at our municipal golf course (as you do!)
I've just made some runner bean plants for Allan to try out using painted bendy thinnest fuse wire, pva & foam scatter.
Greenscenes supply packs of real dried plant stems. I
 
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Isambardme

Guest
I dip the ends of each Greenscenes stem in pva mix then into a small plastic pot of Greenscenes pink/red blended ground foam. The prototype rose bay willow herb was left like that. This Wednesday it and some new ones had their stems carefully painted , then green flock was delicately sprinkled on the upside down plant so each 'hair /leaf ' could point in a generally realistic direction. Once planted it was realised these should be shorter, so I cut them to a scale size of 3 to 4 feet (the height Richard researched as correct) & replanted them.
I made the tall weeds with small yellow flowers that you also see near railways in a similar way.
You will see the rose bay willow herbs & yellow flowers in Richard's latest photos. Richard has now asked me to make a lot more!
Hope this info helps. (usual disclaimer about Greenscenes & DCC Supplies- no connection- we are just satisfied customers).
Steve
 

Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
I dip the ends of each Greenscenes stem in pva mix then into a small plastic pot of Greenscenes pink/red blended ground foam. The prototype rose bay willow herb was left like that. This Wednesday it and some new ones had their stems carefully painted , then green flock was delicately sprinkled on the upside down plant so each 'hair /leaf ' could point in a generally realistic direction. Once planted it was realised these should be shorter, so I cut them to a scale size of 3 to 4 feet (the height Richard researched as correct) & replanted them.
I made the tall weeds with small yellow flowers that you also see near railways in a similar way.
You will see the rose bay willow herbs & yellow flowers in Richard's latest photos. Richard has now asked me to make a lot more!
Hope this info helps. (usual disclaimer about Greenscenes & DCC Supplies- no connection- we are just satisfied customers).
Steve
Thanks for that Steve :):thumbs:........I could do with plenty of flowering weeds around Withercombe .

BTW I used Sainsburys 'Basics' cat litter, probably not as neat as yours, but no swelling :thumbs:

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Cheers Phill :)
 
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Isambardme

Guest
That's a new situation for you isn't it Phill..? :D usually you would just let them grow by themselves...:thumbs::bowdown:
You may wonder where we got modelling inspiration for Heyside vegetation.
Way back I showed Allan pictures of the greenery & allotments on 4mm Faringdon in Stephen Williams 'Great Western Branch Line Modelling Part 3 pages 49 - 53. We also liked the scenery done by the Master - Gordon Gravett in his book '7mm Modelling Part One - an Introduction' esp pages 77-81.

Just to whet your appetite for possible future photo features by Richard- He & Roger are working on setts around the Goods Warehouse involving impressions from a carved 'master' around 1cm square pushed into wet Das to produce the setts. This painstaking process over many sessions & weeks has produced too much unevenness for Richard who with Roger has been sanding the setts down to get a more even finish. He & Roger have been re carving the setts whose detail has been removed by sanding. The setts they have completed but not yet painted look impressive. Expect before & after photos in due course.
Clive is refinishing the surface of the minerals yard. We looked at puddles in BRM Sept 2012 & Clive has identified places for puddles - this is Greater Manchester after all... Again good future photo potential. Watch this space!
Steve
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
We looked at puddles in BRM Sept 2012 ....
I'm not usually a fan of BRM, but having browsed it in 'Smiffs' I did think that article on puddles was rather good, and certainly something not often seen on layouts.... so get them in on Heyside before they become the next modelling cliche..!!!:):rolleyes:;) :D
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Hi again I am more interested in the colours of the paint mix on the ballast as it seems just right
Ta

Hi John

The track colour is very much work in progress. The whole thing was done as an emergency slosh prior to the Manchester exhibition. It was very unsubtle, and just a mix of Railmatch matt frame dirt and matt weathered black, bought in 1 litre tins from Howes, The lighter stuff had more frame dirt and more thinners, the darker stuff had more black or more coats.

We are now painting the sides of the rails and picking out the fishplates, and are yet to dry brush and really go to town on the trackwork. So a long way to go yet.

Glad you like it though.

Richard
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Just to add to the previous post....

The top picture here shows the unadulterated slosh, and the lower where the rust colours have been added to the side of the rails. It doesn't half change the appearance of the track.

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The painting is mostly Brian's work. As chief slave-driver, I can't have compassion, but I do feel sorry for Brian. His apprenticeship was on ballasting, them he moved to repairing ballasting. He graduated and moved up to point rodding stool preparation, and has finally found his niche painting rusty rails - and there's a lot of them on Heyside.

Me, I just make the tea.

Richard
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Painting the rails a "rust" colour presents a much more "natural" appearance than an over-exuberant use of a Railmatch "Groti Trak" spray can. I do like the way in which the colour changes as one moves from track to cess to track as in the second photo.

regards, Graham
 
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Isambardme

Guest
Yes, Tim & I have done our stints on track side painting and appreciate how much Brian is contributing. I particularly like his greased up fishplates too.
Just for perspective, we do plan quite a way ahead. In the earliest days when Clive, Richard & I were fitting the newly arrived Heyside boards & making new baseboards (fiddle yard etc -photos still on R...web!) in Richard's cellar, we pored over source books on the Oldham Loop in Richard's conservatory. We liked the distinctive L&Y 24 hour coal stage shown in some photos. About a year ago we considered where it could go. Manchester Exhibition priorities meant that it was put on the back burner.(If you haven't seen it, Richard's video of Heyside at the Manchester Show in Oct 2011 is on U tube). Last Saturday Richard showed some super coaling stage photos from the L&Y Society magazine. This extra detail means that such a 24 hour coaling stage (some had water too) will feature on Heyside in future, but probably not until our next exhibition at Aylesbury in May 2013 is over. Geoff Taylor, our Dewsbury layout member & sometime Heyside building consultant & weatherer said that their layout has taken around ten years to reach the current standard. So we are happy to leave some things to the future so we can complete other work for our next show.(Not that Clive or I would want to remind poor Richard again about his naked brass Heyside signal gantry masterpiece!)
Now I must get back to more Rose Bay Willow Herb.
Steve
 
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