lancer1027
Western Thunderer
Not sure could he repeat it please
7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s
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Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
28ten
Guv'nor
Good work that man! Connection a little slow at the campsite, I must have hit reply a few timesNot now it isn't...
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
Just thinking about this picture... was it the architect Scott who said "get the roof line correct and the rest will follow"?
Never mind the quote, I am puzzled by the way the slate courses are laid on the terrace houses.
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
I have done a few slate roofs in my time.... a Victorian mid-terrace in Reading, a farmhouse in Gloucestershire, a lean-to in Not-Really-Snoring-on-Mud... and in each case the local building inspector has been most insistent on a few matters about the job:-
[1] decent bit of lead on the adjacent brickwork, at least four inches over the slates;
[2] decent first course using the best slates especially for the row of half height slates under the visible lowest row;
[3] keep the rows horizontal to minimise seepage.
The interesting bit about the model is that the roof slopes to the front of the terrace and slopes along the terrace... which combined means that rain-water is going to run down the roof in a diagonal direction. I can see the flashing around the mid-terrace chimney and from what I can see in the photo the building inspector would have fallen from the roof in a mild fit. Rain running from the ridge is likely to go under the flashing on the side of the stack - this would be a case where the flashing ought to be under the slates.
I am less certain about the coursing as I have not had to slate a roof on a slope. As the terrace is on a slope, water running on the diagonal is going to reach a join between two slates and then seep under the slate... how far is dependent upon the volume of rain falling and the slope of the roof. There is a fair chance that the seepage would reach the (non-visible) join in the next row down and hence seep into the roof (ok, on the model, the whole terrace has been re-slated and a suitable membrane put between the stringers and the rafters).
regards, Graham
(has my lineside pass to Platform 1 been rescinded?)
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Graham, as you will have seen if you've looked back, I too queried the sloping roofline of that terrace - turns out there are terraces like that "oop t'North", although not, I suspect, at such a steep angle....
As for the effects of rain, in that picture your Building Inspector might be more concerned by a lack of guttering, and the fact that even if there is any, the one drainpipe visible doesn't reach it anyway....
As for the effects of rain, in that picture your Building Inspector might be more concerned by a lack of guttering, and the fact that even if there is any, the one drainpipe visible doesn't reach it anyway....
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
I agree with you about houses with a roof at a similar angle to the model... my comment does not question whether the slope is prototypical or not, rather I am suggesting that maybe the way in which the slate courses are arranged might not be prototypical... and particularly the flashing around the chimney stack.I too queried the sloping roofline of that terrace - turns out there are terraces like that "oop t'North", although not, I suspect, at such a steep angle....
I might be making an ass of U and Me here... one of the pictures shows the RH end of the terraces and there is a good indication that the "gutter" is provided by way of a hidden gulley behind the front facade of the house. What is missing from this aspect of the build is a rain-hopper on top of the down-pipe and probably a hole in the front wall, above the down-pipe, to allow water from the gulley to reach the hopper.As for the effects of rain, in that picture your Building Inspector might be more concerned by a lack of guttering, and the fact that even if there is any, the one drainpipe visible doesn't reach it anyway....
regards, Graham
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi
All these points are taken on board. This terrace, indeed nearly all the buildings are part of the original layout. Over time they will all be critically examined to see how they may be improved. The idea is to get all the rest of the layout to the standard we want, then go back and revisit the buildings, at which time Jordan (and anyone else interested) will be invited to contribute an interior
Richard
All these points are taken on board. This terrace, indeed nearly all the buildings are part of the original layout. Over time they will all be critically examined to see how they may be improved. The idea is to get all the rest of the layout to the standard we want, then go back and revisit the buildings, at which time Jordan (and anyone else interested) will be invited to contribute an interior
Richard
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi
I just thought I would provide some pics of current work. The boards are split up so I have some views that are not normally available. No order, and all very much work in progress. There's a bit of greenery to counterbalance the largely urban feel, and a bit of point rodding appearing. The walls are getting grimier, and the new factory is on its second iteration.
Richard
I just thought I would provide some pics of current work. The boards are split up so I have some views that are not normally available. No order, and all very much work in progress. There's a bit of greenery to counterbalance the largely urban feel, and a bit of point rodding appearing. The walls are getting grimier, and the new factory is on its second iteration.
Richard
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
The standard today is pretty good and, in my opinion, Heyside stands amongst the best.
As to interiors, where do the WT-volunteers queue for their orders? (sounds like a call to the "Shiny Black with a hint of Green" Brigade lead by Col. Dikitriki).
regards, Graham
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
Love the extra photos. Now, what is growing in the scrub about half way along the cinder path?
Surprised that there has been no reference to the ABC Locoshed Directory and the inevitable direction beginning... "follow the cinder path to the end where there is a gate in the fence.."
regards, Graham
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Ah, that's one of the householder's attempts to prettify their patch by cultivating a few flowers. Still under development, I'll see if I can get a pic. I sometimes forget to take photos of work in progress, and then when I look back, I'm startled to see how far we've come.
Same view in embryonic form. It took some time to work out how we were going to make a coherent whole from the existing and rebuilt parts.
Battery's recharged, off to Oldham...........
Richard
Same view in embryonic form. It took some time to work out how we were going to make a coherent whole from the existing and rebuilt parts.
Battery's recharged, off to Oldham...........
Richard
