7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

[mickoo]

Richard, it is very nice, don't mistake my observations as criticism.

Just got back from Warley, huge pile of books and mags to wade through, wasn't much there that 'really' grabbed me but I was impressed with the pleasing influx of O gauge layouts (and no after a 320mile 5 hr round trip I can't reel off all of them LOL) and you know what, given the scope of what's available I may just have to jump scales for my 'layout' locos and leave larger for statics, I wasn't going to go to Reading but may well do so now just to see what 'is' on the market and a 9F with high sided tender is on the list of possible subjects to grab. I wanted to go 1:32 for the size, but up close 7mm is pretty big all in all.

 

[Dikitriki]

Richard, it is very nice, don't mistake my observations as criticism.

Hi Mick

Your observation is criticism. But importantly, it is constructive criticism and backed by evidence. As such it is to be welcomed, for without such matters being pointed out, how can we get it right and better what we are doing?

Similarly, Graham's comments are always thoughtful and to the point (when I can understand them ) . While I reserve the right to ignore them - or was already aware of the issue - most will be acted upon as and when we can get round to it.

I would hope we would all be receptive to ideas that will improve the end product, so I am not going to take offence at well thought out and constructive criticism.

I shall hopefully go to Warley tomorrow, the first time for, I dunno, 10 years or so. I feel honour bound to do so as the Heyside group was given some tickets by the Warley organisers after we had turned down an invite to take Heyside there. I shall try to keep an open mind, but my memories of the scrums years ago are not favourable. Is it any better now?

Cheers

Richard

 

[mickoo]

Richard, I'm pleased the observations were taken in the vein intended .

NEC, hmm yes and no, again areas were walled off and I do appreciate the massive effort taken to host and organise such a show, last year some areas were very cramped, no more than 8 or 10 feet isles, this year it was the same but there were also some gaping holes where things could have been shuffled to make space elsewhere, as usual the left side is a scrum so get there early and do that side first is my advice, also the bottom right where the MRJ sponsored cottage industries stands are is a little tight but most of the bigger layouts are easily accessible with a little patience at times. I'll do a little write up with some photos of what I took on my thread shortly.

I suppose you get out of it what you want, I was looking for inspirations and found very little and ended up walking away with more questions about what I 'really' wanted to model and a lot of (stark) reality checks on pipe dreams and potential projects. Abberggegg or what ever it's called was good but attracted little attention but there was another large 7mm engine shed layout which was quite clever in being double ended shed with WR at one side and LMR at the other, that was often two deep but by far the two most popular ones were the 'large' scale tram layout 40x80' or so, it really is big and a 2mm scenic layout. The trams were very popular with the kids who were actively encouraged to get close and the scenic one was 20x4' and a massive 6 feet high where the train really was part of the landscape, that one was three or four deep all day and for good reason.

I think from what I can gather here of your interests it will suit you much more than me, so go and enjoy yourself.

Kindest

 

[Ressaldar]

I wasn't going to go to Reading but may well do so now just to see what 'is' on the market and a 9F with high sided tender is on the list of possible subjects to grab.

Hi Mick,

be patient, MOK are bringing the 9F out next year, it will be a good idea to have a look at their stand at Reading just to see the quality of their kits.

cheers

Mike

 

[mickoo]

Hi Mick,

be patient, MOK are bringing the 9F out next year, it will be a good idea to have a look at their stand at Reading just to see the quality of their kits.

cheers

Mike

Patience is not one of my strongest virtues LOL and may just have to get something in between to 'just' be getting on with something! , but I take your point, MOK are very good from what I have seen thus far.
I fully expect to walk away from Reading with something in my grubby paws, I have a week to fine tune which direction I wish to begin to head in, read, in reality I'll get something that grabs my liking with no thoughts of cohesion for future projects, as per pure WT scatter gun policy.
Anyway enough OT 'here' will progress more thoughts in my own thread shortly.

 

[Dikitriki]

Hi

Heyside Xmas Social today. After lunch, the ladies departed for the withdrawing room and a movie, while the gents went
downstairs to play trains.

....and look what I found shunted into the warehouse siding, presumably towards the end of its life.....





and the Aspinall A with not much left before painting....



Cheers, and a Happy New Year to you all.

Richard

 

[7mmMick]

There's nowt like a good Christmas bash! I really like the CCT Richard, is it kit built and if so whose is it please ?

ATB Mick

 

[Buckjumper]

Coo - the GER reaches Heyside! D&S kit of a Diagram 39M.

Although the first five were designated CCTs the remaining 30 were intended to be more utilitarian and the GE in fact lumped them all in the returns as general vans.

The Aspinal A is a handsome beast too.

Edit: spelling...

 

[Dikitriki]

There's nowt like a good Christmas bash! I really like the CCT Richard, is it kit built and if so whose is it please ?

ATB Mick

Hi Mick

It's a D&S kit, a lovely neat piece of work by Clive.

Cheers

Richard

 

[7mmMick]

Thanks for the info chaps, I'll bear it in mind for a future purchase as I agree its a lovely looking thing. I also have to agree with Adrian about the A class. Another one for the wish list if the kit ever reappears as an A class features on one of my favourate all time photos ( which Richard has a copy of ). As always enjoying the updates Richard,

ATB Mick

 

[Dikitriki]

Hi

I've been working on the signals on the footbridge - modelled on those at Werneth - which in Heyside's case covers the up main and entry to the goods loop. It's not quite finished yet - I need some more lace pins for the stanchions and to build another ladder, oh, and to paint it.





I must admit to being very pleased as to how the lattice bridge turned out.

Cheers

Richard

 

[lancer1027]

Very impressive work Richard.

Rob

 

[Dog Star]

Why is there a strap on the nearest brick pillar? A nice touch... maybe there ought to be one on the reverse face like an "U" retainer for the vertical end of the bridge ironwork?

regards, Graham

 

[Dikitriki]

Why is there a strap on the nearest brick pillar? A nice touch... maybe there ought to be one on the reverse face like an "U" retainer for the vertical end of the bridge ironwork?

regards, Graham

There was a ladder there originally. When I took the ladder off, the strap was left behind. It might just be in the right place for my ladder, so I have not removed it as yet until I build mine.

Richard

 

[Mike Sheardown]

Yes lovely work Richard - is the lattice bridge scratch built, and if so, did you have to cut all that strip yourself?

Don't suppose there's a chance of a longer shot showing it's location on the layout better?

Happy New Year to you

Mike

 

[Dikitriki]

It is perhaps fitting that we are discussing the lattice bridge at this time.

Cynric was a hugely important member of the Heyside team, and gave of his time generously.

When I first mooted redoing the footbridges, he offered to come over to discuss what he could do. We spent a long afternoon developing the design for the kit, how to make it adaptable, and poring over books on the Oldham Loop. Cynric did the CAD design and organised the etches, and later came over and presented me with the 3 kits.

When he learned I wanted a DMU for the Manchester show, he offered to build it for me 'for a pint in my local' which to my regret he will never collect. Naturally he did some bespoke etchings for it and scratchbuilt a chassis, and presented it to me 2 days before the show. It was and is a superb addition to the stud.

When he came over to test one of his many Westerns, we discussed his new laser toy, and its application to Heyside and its buildings. We were redoing the roadway by the station and needed a corner bank to narrow the gap. He offered to design a bank and in fact did the research as to what it may look like based on those in the area (Royton). I was expecting a kit of parts for us to build. Next thing I knew, he had built it, done a full painted interior, and organised the ballustrades.

His last piece of work was some very fine windows to replace some rather rough ones. Seemingly turned round in a hour or so, they are so fine in every sense of the word when compared with what we had before.

There was much left that was work in progress - a row of terraced houses, more windows, a pub, valancing and supports.

All I had to do was give him running rights on Heyside (and make sure he gave up S7) and the use of the pantograph miller. I was so looking forward to seeing his latest Western on the mark 1s, and in turn, Cynric was looking forward to building the MOK 9F for Heyside. He would have made a fantastic job of it.

Cynric's mark on Heyside will be there for all to see, and I shall miss him greatly.

Richard

 

[Ressaldar]

well said Richard, he will certainly be missed by everybody on WT

regards

Mike

 

[Dikitriki]

Hi

I took these on the 1st Jan, but have refrained from posting them until now. Just a bit of fun, I wanted to film the first test run of lady Godiva, and then filmed the 2P on an inspection trip and the DMU mentioned above.

The first and last clips have sound, the middle 2 don't, unless you count the squeaky bearings

Cheers

Richard

 

[Neil]

Like them, but the last clip made me realise that in my youth I rarely heard DMUs starting up. I remember that they were usually left running. With Harrogate, Selby and West Yorkshire bound units waiting in the bay platforms, York station in the sixties and seventies had an omnipresent diesely fug, I seem to remember reading that there was a worry that once shut down they'd be awkward to start. My uncle used to be a fitter at York shed, he told me that Cravens exhausts when they were routed through the guards compartment had a tendency to catch fire.

 

[3 LINK]

Heyside goes from strength to strength, looking at these clips have been a real tonic for me today .

ATB,

Martyn.