Kings Lynn Stabling Point, 1980's

Colin M

Western Thunderer
Wow 3 x class 03's and an 08 stabled together:D.

What would the numbers have been on the 03's. I guess one would have been 175 maybe??:confused:

Rob:)


I could only guess at numbers from that angle and resoultion. The warning flashes are located differently, which might help with elimination? Yes, likely 03175. Also a regular was 03017.
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
I promised pics of my carpentry mis-adventures, so here goes...

Board No.1 is done. (For those who like dimensions it's 44"x 23". Top is 6mm ply, sides 3.5mm and ends 18mm soft timber. Sides are 4.5" deep to safeguard tortoise motors. (sorry about mix of old and new money!)

I commited the cardinal sin... I brought my wood from the cheapie store who like big red pencils. It looked fine in the store. When I got it home it was bowed like a banana, both ply and batten. (If it starts to look like the boards won't be durable for the long haul, or subject to wrapping etc. I won't hesitate to consign them to the skip and start again with some good quality birch ply from a proper timber merchant).

I was a bit worried when I started out. My workshop consists of a B&D workmate in my conservatory, and my toolkit is a jigsaw (not ideal for long straight cuts!), a battery drill and a few hand tools. However, for now, I have ended up with something which is flat and square. Once the components are glued and screwed together, the end product is not nearly as sad as I first feared. I going to make a couple and see how they go together.

Next job is to seal it with a couple of coats of varnish.

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Here is a sketch of my track plan. Boards are narrow because they have to be stored in my loft, so I am constrained by the hatch dimensions. I'm going to make two additional 10" wide scenic boards to the rear to house the fuel tanks/pump house and water tower etc. These narrow boards will have the only contours which makes construction easier. Main boards are flat.

This design is self contained. Plat 4 will be mainly hidden from view for stock changing by use of cartridges. There is easy possibility to extend later to include the rest of the station and the crossing/footbridge/sig box etc. The shed area will be a faithful reproduction, but I'll be using modellers licence elsewhere. To avoid a big featureless bit between the shed and platforms, I've compressed the track layout using a double slip

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And last bit of news for this update...

The first vehicle ready for the layout. The Conflat L match truck is ready for service after lettering and weathering. Lettering from CCT (see earlier in the thread) is superb! The transfer quality is great and service is super quick. They are very delicate; you need to follow the instructions!

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Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Please think twice about using varnish. We have done the uprights of our layout with varnish... and the baseboards with primer / undercoat / oil-based gloss. Whilst both dry to the touch the varnished items "stick" together when erected... seems that pressure between the two layers of varnish causes the varnish coats to merge together. If I recall correctly, the varnish came from Homebase / B&Q and was the low VOC variety (I say Homebase /B&Q as we used both sources and each seems to have the same issue). No problems at all with the oil-based gloss paint.

regards, Graham
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
I do like the inclusion of a good number of "handholes" with re-inforcement.. that feature shall help with carrying the boards around when the weight goes up.

The construction looks good - whilst flat at this time there is nothing to resist and twisting moment of the top surface. If you can, I suggest adding some diagonal braces.

regards, Graham
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
Please think twice about using varnish.
regards, Graham

Thx Graham. I'll give it more thought re sealing the boards. They do need to resist swings in temperature.

I am concerned about sacrificing rigidity in the search for reduced weight. Similar sized boards on my EM layout have never moved a jot, but they weigh a ton. Too much for ready singular handling, which is a new priority for me this time. Diagonals might be a good ploy to make things more robust without adding too much extra weight.
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
Whose 03 do you have? DJH, or Bachmann?

This is a Bachmann 03. All I added was the extra compressor cupboard at the front, high level hoses and some cab detail. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more. Runs superbly. Really nice base model in mho.

I used to subscribe to the "I'd rather make it myself" theory, and I've started a Right Price 03 kit, but these days I have so little modelling time to spare, in the future I'll mainly be choosing to detail RTR, and invest my precious little scratch/kit building time into vehicles that are not readily available. I'm lucky, in that RTR manufacturers have already covered my staple loco diet... 03's, 08's, 31's, 37's and 47's. Perhaps it's all getting too easy..? But I still have some unique vehicles to scratch build, such as the grey boiler van. Complex NSE repaints are going to develop my modelling skills too, so still lots of satisfaction to be found (and probably some new swear words to discover!)
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
Wow 3 x class 03's and an 08 stabled together:D.

What would the numbers have been on the 03's. I guess one would have been 175 maybe??:confused:

Rob:)

I've had a closer look at this. To the best of my knowledge there have been 5 different 03's stationed at Lynn and I think it is straightforward to identify the vac brake examples just from the position of the rear cab warning flashes, (they are all located differently), and the dual braked 03 086 by the EMU hoses. (081 and 086 also retained centre line rear marker lights)

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I haven't tried it yet but I suspect it would be much more difficult to tell them apart from front views. (They all have flower pot chimneys). 03 017 had it's radiator grille largely plated over during one winter. I'm planning to model that little detail).
 

alcazar

Guest
I LOVE 03's, I went all over spotting them before they all went, and had almost cleared them all.
I still have a soft spot for Cambridge's 03008, vac brake only and cone chimney. Somewhere I have a very atmospheric photo of it behind the dmu depot at cambridge, on the fuelling bay.
Ipswich stabling point by the station was another fave spotting place, you could get very atmospheric photos there too.
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
I LOVE 03's, I went all over spotting them before they all went, and had almost cleared them all.

There is definatley something endearing about 03's!

You must have enjoyed some great loco hauled trips to the far corners of the country to see them all? And some places that didn't get visited by too many enthusiasts?

I think the best place to see them in numbers today is Mangapps Farm, at Burnham-on-Crouch in Essex. It isn't open too often, so you have to watch out for the open-day dates. Well worth a visit, and you can enjoy some unusal 03 haulage! These are from a bit earlier this year:

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alcazar

Guest
"Places that didn't get visted by too many enthusiasts"?

Not really, by the time I started they were roughly divided 2/3 on the Eastern, which is my stamping ground, and 13 on the Western.

I joined the Dalescroft railfans society, and undertook a saturation trip to S.Wales with them to knock off most of the Western ones, plus those at Bath Road.
The eastern ones were done, as you say, on rail-borne outings with the odd trip out by car. Once I'd done Stratford, Colchester, Ipswich, march, Kings Lynn, Lincoln, Hull, Darlington, and Newcastle, that was pretty much it. There were a few in W.Yorkshire, around Bradford, Halifax etc, but I got those mostly by car.

Oddments were done by Rail: two at Bournemouth, three at derby, and quite a few via the Plant.
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
I used to be joint owner of four real 03's. These being 03 027 / D2070 / 03 084 / 03 158.:)

The first two myself and a mate bought from Queenbrough on the Isle of Sheppey in Oct 1990 and June 1991 i think. ( that long ago now) . We took these to South Yorkshire Railway at Meadowhall.

The other two we won the tender for the purchase of these off BR and took them from March ( well Whitemoor Yard ) to a private location. This was 1995 i think.

Rob
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Amazing.

And what has happened to them since? Are you no longer involved?
No i sold my 50% . This was due to getting married, and having kids. Priorities changed and i needed the money.

D2070 i sold to Cotswold Rail, they were going to refurb and hire out but ended up selling for spares and scrapped the shell:(.

The others were at Peak Rail but i think now they have been sold on again as 03 084 and 03 158 are at the Ecclesbourne Railway. ( dont quote me on it though as ive lost track and not sure for definate),:thumbs:

Rob
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
A nice view of Kings Lynn

I haven't seen too much evidence of 25's at Lynn. The 4 wheel van is great!

It's a lovely shot of the original yard lamps in their prime and the colour light signal in the foreground looks new. Must have been installed around 1976/early 1977?
 
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