Liver & Fry's workbench
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Liver & Fry
Western Thunderer
It's thought very few made it into BR but one of the later examples was seen at Darlington in 1950.
- James
L&Y Dia.72 Fish Van
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Liver & Fry
Western Thunderer
I finally sorted those axleboxes!
In order to allow the axleboxes to accommodate the vertical movement of the floating bearing end within the spring carrier, I had to ream out above the pre-cast hole and then attach the box to the leaf springs, so not to risk gluing the bearing in place:
I then painted the remainder of the underframe but apparently neglected to take any photos before I started typing this, so that one will have to wait...
Been looking at end detailing and it appears vac, air and steam heat pipes are in order, along with two lamp brackets at each end. Thankfully I have everything required for this so will likely add these tomorrow evening.
- James
In order to allow the axleboxes to accommodate the vertical movement of the floating bearing end within the spring carrier, I had to ream out above the pre-cast hole and then attach the box to the leaf springs, so not to risk gluing the bearing in place:
I then painted the remainder of the underframe but apparently neglected to take any photos before I started typing this, so that one will have to wait...
Been looking at end detailing and it appears vac, air and steam heat pipes are in order, along with two lamp brackets at each end. Thankfully I have everything required for this so will likely add these tomorrow evening.
- James
L&Y Dia.72 Fish Van
New
Liver & Fry
Western Thunderer
And as promised...
I think we're getting close to seeing some green... (Brake levers will go on after an initial coat on the solebar). Probably need to fit the roof too, as that will also be painted green!
- James
I think we're getting close to seeing some green... (Brake levers will go on after an initial coat on the solebar). Probably need to fit the roof too, as that will also be painted green!
- James
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
James, do you have a source for the colour information? The L&Y wagon books describes as "hearsay evidence" that the first 50 may have been painted a "very light pastel green." There is no reference to the roof and that seems somewhat unlikely. I obviously have an interest having the 7mm version.
John
Liver & Fry
Western Thunderer
The reference to the roof comes from the history/livery information provided in the kit instructions by David Geen: "The green even extended to the roof". It surprised me too!
The photo on page 386 of the wagon book, showing a rake of fish vans, references two of the rake as being "probably green". That same photo shows a freshly painted white example, whereby the roof matches the body and I guess the implication there could be that the white livery followed the pattern set by the green examples.
Page 375 references the colour coding of perishable vans, although does not mention roof colour.
Nigel Digby references the various van colours in his third "Liveries of the Pre-Grouping Railways" book, but again, this does not specify roof colour.
Additionally, I have seen someone else model a red gunpowder van with a red roof to match (whilst I know you should never model a model, it has to have been based on something) and so, between that and the David Geen comment, I've deduced that the special liveried wagons had their roofs painted to match - Or at the very least, that's how I'm planning to model them currently.
I hope that helps?
- James
L&Y Dia.72 Fish Van
New
Liver & Fry
Western Thunderer
Speaking of green...
The photo and the yellow tinted lighting of the room doesn't do it justice, but the shade I've gone with is Revell 59:
I felt this fitted the described colour quite nicely (as does Revell 49 for the blue of the Dia.64 Butter Van). Of course, we'll never know the exact shades used!
I've also cut and fitted the roof, albeit unpainted at this time. In fact, only the one side of the van has been painted, as the paint is quite thin and needed three coats to get a satisfactory application.
- James
The photo and the yellow tinted lighting of the room doesn't do it justice, but the shade I've gone with is Revell 59:
I felt this fitted the described colour quite nicely (as does Revell 49 for the blue of the Dia.64 Butter Van). Of course, we'll never know the exact shades used!
I've also cut and fitted the roof, albeit unpainted at this time. In fact, only the one side of the van has been painted, as the paint is quite thin and needed three coats to get a satisfactory application.
- James