MOVING COAL - A Colliery Layout in 0 Gauge

PhilH

Western Thunderer
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Work on the low relief warehouse building progresses - slowly ! The windows, gutters and downpipes have been added, so there's now just the roof slates to complete. Having the window frames etched in advance seemed like a good idea, but the window openings have strayed a bit larger than intended so all the frames needed filing to suit, a rather long laborious process.


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The gutters are from brass channel like the loco shed and the downpipes are 2.5mm brass tube with Modelu fittings. The missing section of pipe will be lying on the ground amongst the grass and weeds to be provided at the base of the building, similar to the prototype.

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PhilH

Western Thunderer
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The slates are now fixed on the warehouse roof, these are self adhesive by Intentio. I don't know what the material is, something stronger than card or they would separate when you removed the backing paper, but it seemed to soak up paint like blotting paper. They were black as supplied, so I decided to spray the sheets a suitable grey colour then pick out a few slightly darker or lighter before fixing in place. However three sprays later and running out of the paint I'd mixed (and patience !) they were still a rather uneven colour, so I decided to start sticking them on the roof and sort out the colour later. They'll be painted again to get a more even colour when the ridge tiles are in place. In retrospect they should have been given a coat of primer first.


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The adhesive has instant 'grab' and they have to be placed exactly right first time, so to keep them straight each row was placed against a steel ruler resting on two pins.


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Near the top edge I used a couple of clamps to fix it in position. Where I couldn't fix the ruler in position in any way I taped the slates to the edge of the ruler with masking tape before removing the self adhesive backing, this keeps the slates straight and in line. The 'lead' in the valley between the two slopes is a couple of thin strips of Kapton Tape.


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The top edge is a bit uneven and needs trimming before I fix the ridge tiles, which will be made from brass angle. Although the adhesive has instant grab it remains elastic and the slates can move if you're not careful when trimming in situ.

tbc
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Looking at the roof as in the photo, I think that slates of one colour in a row which is longer than an arm's length is unlikely; I say this from watching roofers stacking slates / tiles on a roof prior to laying individuals on the battens.... seems to me that a roofer is going to lay each stack above him and to left / right within reach.

Rgds, Graham
 

PhilH

Western Thunderer
It would appear that the roof colour seems fairly good as it is. There seems to be a reasonable difference in shades of grey.

Hmmm ?

Looking at the roof as in the photo, I think that slates of one colour in a row which is longer than an arm's length is unlikely; I say this from watching roofers stacking slates / tiles on a roof prior to laying individuals on the battens.... seems to me that a roofer is going to lay each stack above him and to left / right within reach.

Rgds, Graham

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PhilH

Western Thunderer
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The ridge tiles are 2mm brass angle, not yet finally fixed in position. Joints were represented by soldering on short lengths of 1mm wide brass strip, a total of about 55. Getting all those equally spaced and at 90 degrees to the edge of the angle was quite testing to say the least.


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The ones at the back were soldered to a strip of brass for fixing to the rear of the building and most of the back of the angle removed.


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I think the brass strip should have been a 4mm scale coach floor ! They're fixed in place with Peco track pins, which I use quite a lot - but hardly ever for fixing down track. Before fixing the exposed faces were primed with light grey primer.


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The roof after 10 or 11 (I lost count !) sprayed coats of paint. The colour is now reasonably even but some of the slates are still soaking up the paint, producing a rather rough surface.


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Shown in close up here. In retrospect I should probably have primed and fully painted the slates before fixing, and rejected any with a poor surface finish (not that I'm likely to use these again).


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The finished or "That'll have to do" stage, or I might just run a knife along the horizontal joints to open them up a bit. Some of the slates have been touched up with slightly different colours or shades of the base colour, so subtle it hardly shows ! The colour of the slates is probably too light, but the building is in a corner of the layout that's not too well illuminated, and what looked reasonable on the workbench looked too dark when it was in situ. The ridge tiles at the back were also a problem, whether to include them or not, as in theory the roof should slope away beyond the backscene at a shallower angle. For that reason, after trying red/brown and dark grey, I painted them just a slightly darker grey than the roof slates so they don't stand out too much against the light blue backscene. The right hand end of the gutter is drooping a bit and needs adjustment.

tbc
 

40057

Western Thunderer
Based on your last photograph, the colour variation in the slates — where you have added a slightly different shade to some — does show and is extremely effective. Looks very convincing.
 

hrmspaul

Western Thunderer
Why are you worried about roughness? Our 1996 house has recovered slates and they are quite thick and irregular. Accepted the original homes (1855) alongside are smoother (the difference is very noticeable) but I suspect ours came from an industrial building where the quality of the slates was less important - like your building.

I can only vaguely remember how our roofers laid the slates, but I do agree that they worked all around them before moving along to do another area.

Paul
 

PhilH

Western Thunderer
Work on the layout grinds slowly on. Other more appealing things to do beckon, but I must complete this part of the layout as its dragged on for so long in a partly completed state.


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The large low relief warehouse, chimney and building flats are more or less permanently in position. I say more or less as there are two point motors hidden behind the warehouse which have been ultra reliable for the 40 or so years in use but Sods Law probably dictates that they will go wrong when everything is finished. The ground cover between the buildings and the track needs redoing completely with patches of grass and weeds.


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The loco shed just requires the sliding doors to complete before it can be permanently fixed in place.


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The doors will be hung on 'U' shaped brackets similar to the prototype. The axles of the wheels are held in slots so the wheels can move from side to side in the bracket as the doors are opened and closed.


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I've made a start on these, doing the 'U' shaped part. These were made by soldering 6 brass offcuts (4 required 2 spare) to a short block of square brass. A hole was then drilled for the inside curve and the legs shaped by an end mill in the milling machine, using the brass block to clamp it in the machine's vice. Then after the parts were unsoldered the outside curve was formed on each individually by filing against a turned steel former. 5 have made it so far, one got lost in the small fixing hole drilling, hopefully the required 4 will make it to the finish.


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The interior for the weigh house has been completed as far as needed. It will not be lighted inside so you'll only be able to see what's just behind the window.


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The figures are Modelu on 3D printed chairs from Ebay. The nearest bloke should really have a bit carved out of his a*** to sit him better on the chair. The mug on the desk is a bit of 2mm brass tube with a wire handle soldered on. The telephone was carved out of plastikard plus bits of round plastic kit sprue for the dial, speaker and earpiece. The weighing machine and dial are a rather odd combination of 1" dia. Bakelite, perspex and plastic, just suitable sized material from the scrapbox. I found a suitable photo of a dial on the web, but it didn't show all the dial so I had to photo edit in the missing bit. Most of the photos I found on the web were either taken at an angle or if straight on showed a reflection in the glass.


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As it will look when permanently fixed on the layout. The weigh house is based on the prototype at Parsonage Colliery, Leigh, which was illustrated in Post #22 (and repeated in Post #147). That photo was taken in June 1975 when it was out of use and the windows boarded up, so the inside details are a guess. It would have weighed all the coal going out of the colliery by rail, but by that date outgoing rail traffic had ceased and coal was taken by road to the nearby Bickershaw Colliery for processing. From May the following year all Parsonage coal was wound at Bickershaw but the colliery surface installation was retained for men and material until the final closure in 1992. In 1976 the colliery was still using the original steam winders which I managed to see and photograph, but I believe shortly after they were replaced by electric winders. Parsonage was the last NCB home of the preserved 'Lanky' 0-6-0ST, still carrying its LMS number 11456 in red numerals on the lower cab side.

The site of Parsonage Colliery is now a retail park and no doubt most customers parking outside the Sainsbury store will be unaware that they are parking their car over the site of a 960 yard deep pit shaft ! No doubt adequately filled in and capped, unlike this one about 3 miles away which swallowed a Peckett:
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Osgood

Western Thunderer
The loco shed door roller mechanism is not something I’ve seen before and quite fascinating.
I can imagine the reduction in effort that it delivers when moving the doors.

Spot on with the bridge weigh head (we had an identical green Pooley one), and I don’t blame you for not connecting the dial hand to the weighbridge deck so it moves as the loads pass slowly over - after all the wagons will block the view through the window…..
The reason the heads were identical was that Avery took over Pooley at an unknown date - although I did learn that in 1897 Avery moved into James Watt’s Soho Foundry in Smethwick!
 

simond

Western Thunderer
for reasons I could not recall, the Wetherspoons in Argyle St in Birkenhead is named "the Brass Balance" - I had to look it up

"The text reads: The building you are now in was once home to the weighing machine manufacturers W&T Avery. It replaced a number of small shops. The company moved here in the early 1900s, and stayed until around the time of the Second World War."
 

John57sharp

Western Thunderer
for reasons I could not recall, the Wetherspoons in Argyle St in Birkenhead is named "the Brass Balance" - I had to look it up

"The text reads: The building you are now in was once home to the weighing machine manufacturers W&T Avery. It replaced a number of small shops. The company moved here in the early 1900s, and stayed until around the time of the Second World War."
I didn't know that - thanks Simon.
 

PhilH

Western Thunderer
Hi Phil
Excellent detailing of the weigh house.
if it's not too much trouble could you show us some of your photos of the steam winders referred to above?
Cheers

Dave

As requested a few photos of the Parsonage steam winders. Space inside the engine houses was fairly restricted and I only had a standard lens on the camera, a wide angle lens would have given better views. The photos were taken in 1976.


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In contrast to the rather attractive brick weigh house the main pithead buildings including the headframes were constructed of reinforced concrete. Sinking of the pit began in 1913 but was delayed because of the First World War and the first coal was wound in 1921. In this view the No.2 downcast shaft is on the left with the engine house behind and the No.1 upcast shaft on the right with its engine house off to the right. The boiler plant was at the rear behind the No.1 shaft headgear. Two gantries led off the photo on the left to the screening plant and sidings, some distance from the pithead. The view looks roughly northeast with the Victoria Cotton Mill in the left distance.


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The No. 1 shaft winding engine, a two cylinder horizontal by Galloway, installed in 1920, with drop valves and cylinders 40" diameter x 72" stroke, working pressure 150 psi. Winding depth 920 yards. Note how relatively clean and tidy the place is including the engine itself. The black on the wall behind the drum would be debris from the rope, and the drum is shielded this side to keep as much debris as possible out of the rest of the engine house.


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The view from the opposite corner of the building. The valves are operated by a layshaft running alongside driven from bevel gears in the centre of the photo and with a reversing gearbox part way along. The operators cabin is at the top of the two posts on the right with the access stairway just off the photo. The post in the foreground carries the dial which indicates the position of the cages in the shaft.


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On the left of the LH photo is one of the brake engines, there would be another on the other side of the winding drum. The brakes were connected to counterweights which automatically applied them on, the brake engines held them off, so in the event of an interruption to the steam supply the brakes would automatically apply. To the right is the reversing engine and beyond that in the RH photo, is the controller, which prevented overwinds of the cages in the shaft.


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The No.2 shaft headgear. The narrow gauge system was 2ft. gauge and battery locos were employed underground from the 1950s, later replaced in the 1960s by Ruston & Hornsby and Hunslet flameproof diesel locos.


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The No.2 shaft winding engine, looking down the LH side with the operators cabin in the distance. The engine was a two cylinder horizontal built by Markham in 1920, with drop valves, cylinders 40" diameter x 84" stroke, working pressure 150psi. Winding depth 960 yards.


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The winding drum was conical 28ft. maximum diameter with a brake ring on each side with bolted replaceable liners.

At that date (1976) two other Lancashire Collieries had working steam winders:

Sutton Manor - two cross compounds with Corliss valves. One was replaced by an electric winder in 1986, but the other remained until the pit closed in 1991 and was the last steam winder operating on a working British coal mine. In 1976 the colliery still had a steam fan engine, spare to the electric fan, and two steam compressors.

Bickershaw still had two steam winders on the shafts used for men and materials, the two coal winding shafts had electric winders. The steam winders were replaced by electric in 1977.

Astley Green still had its No.1 shaft steam winder, a tandem compound with Corliss valve gear, developing over 3,000 hp and one of the largest steam winders in Britain. It was last used for coal winding in 1970 and has since been preserved and restored.


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Dangerous Davies

Western Thunderer
Hi Phil,
thank you for posting the winder photos they are all very interesting. When I joined GEC (Rugby) in 1979 they were engaged in the NCB national winder programme to replace steam with electric drives. These were thyristor DC systems, some with the motor overhung from the drum shaft. I ended up in the metals division so never managed to see a steam winder "in the flesh".
Cheers
Dave
 
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