Pencarrow
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Thankfully not Peter, just a couple of sheets of the 15thou. The rest is to restock.
7mm Pencarrow - Cornish BR(S)
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Thankfully not Peter, just a couple of sheets of the 15thou. The rest is to restock.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Might be a slight scaling issue old fruit.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Hi Chris
When I first read 'Red Cross' kit I assumed a first aide kit to fix the finger ends.
Regards
Allen Morgan
Hi Allen, welcome along.
Fingers are ok for model tiling. They took a beating yesterday though dismantling pallets to make some horse jumps.
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
Ideal for "sending" my mountain bike over !
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Station road baseboards I think G Bloke. I get through quite a lot of the stuff and they seem a dependable outfit which packages the material well. The plasticard is a better quality than the really cheap stuff you can get, but still a fair price.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Peter Cross
Western Thunderer
Station road are good for plastic sheet they even send it here. Which is very useful.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Interesting read for those into stone roofing...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjATegQIAhAJ&usg=AOvVaw2_eDi8Bfll9Bk9BSL3oRsQ
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjATegQIAhAJ&usg=AOvVaw2_eDi8Bfll9Bk9BSL3oRsQ
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
"Still trying to work out from photos how the tiles in the valleys and sloping hip roof apexes were arranged." Could you post a photograph Chris to enable a better understanding of what you are trying to achieve please ?
I would have thought the use of clay ridge tiles, of whatever colour, may have been the case so as to take up any difference in the roof angles where they may have differed and then bedded in with mortar ?
G
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
G Bloke, I don't have a photo of any of the roof valleys, always seem obscured by something else on photos, but will be easily seen on the model as facing the front.
Typical canopy obscuring shot
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Or not visible due to the photo angle.
I'm thinking of the valley in the photo below
And the hip roof sloping apex
Typical canopy obscuring shot
. Or not visible due to the photo angle.
I'm thinking of the valley in the photo below
And the hip roof sloping apex
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Best zoomed in extracts I have are below:
Top right, do folk think that's a window in the roof or a large sheet of something, perhaps covering a hole?
Again in a similar sort of area, do folk think the white patches on the roof are a bodged repair with cement?
Ignore the red circle, that was just to point out a few years back that how I'd joined the roofs was prototypical.
Top right, do folk think that's a window in the roof or a large sheet of something, perhaps covering a hole?
Again in a similar sort of area, do folk think the white patches on the roof are a bodged repair with cement?
Ignore the red circle, that was just to point out a few years back that how I'd joined the roofs was prototypical.
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
Right then, my take on this fwiw...
The valley as per your model would probably be a stone cut one using what was available and shaped accordingly.
The hips look very much like they are butt jointed with the use of stone sheet / lead ( maybe if it was available ?) as an undercloak and then rendered at the point of intersection.
Your original picture ( hipped end with you standing underneath it ! ) showing what may be an opening looks as thought it was originally but it seems an odd thing to have done considering the large leaded windows are there.
The large white patches I suggest are a "bodged" repair and not deliberate openings, otherwise there are some very large seagulls around !
Stands back and awaits.....
The valley as per your model would probably be a stone cut one using what was available and shaped accordingly.
The hips look very much like they are butt jointed with the use of stone sheet / lead ( maybe if it was available ?) as an undercloak and then rendered at the point of intersection.
Your original picture ( hipped end with you standing underneath it ! ) showing what may be an opening looks as thought it was originally but it seems an odd thing to have done considering the large leaded windows are there.
The large white patches I suggest are a "bodged" repair and not deliberate openings, otherwise there are some very large seagulls around !
Stands back and awaits.....
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
Chris,
Further to the above, the images that you show would appear to be of a fairly wide timeframe.
If one considers the use and occupants of these buildings over time, and the ravages of weather upon the structure then it is very possible that "gash repairs" have been carried out and not in keeping with an original build.
As I have spent 95% of my working life in the construction industry ( Architects / working for an Established Family Building Contractors and latterly a Building Control Officer ) during which time there has been many interesting structures passed before me.
I would say that there have been buildings erected by the apprenticed "Old Boys" who for the most part build in a traditional manner and also incorporated local traits too. Then latterly the "I know it all upstarts" who to be fair probably existed during the earliest times of building.
Each generation has added to or taken away in their own style and also how much the owners are willing to pay for "a proper job" or "that'll do until I can afford summat better" , which of course rarely happened.
That all said, I understand exactly what you're aiming to achieve, having seen other models from your past and the detail which you put into them.
However, do you think it would matter to the N'Th degree if some of the excellent work to date wasn't quite as per the photographs ?
I doubt if anyone is still around to advise otherwise as to whether you've build it correctly or not. Ok I would expect to get one so called clever b*gg*r make a comment but hey !
Would you be prepared to make a couple of trial pieces* of what your concerns are, and post them here for acceptance and piece of mind knowing that the majority of those following will be right behind you.
G
*don't need to be full on just something to show how you might want it to look
Further to the above, the images that you show would appear to be of a fairly wide timeframe.
If one considers the use and occupants of these buildings over time, and the ravages of weather upon the structure then it is very possible that "gash repairs" have been carried out and not in keeping with an original build.
As I have spent 95% of my working life in the construction industry ( Architects / working for an Established Family Building Contractors and latterly a Building Control Officer ) during which time there has been many interesting structures passed before me.
I would say that there have been buildings erected by the apprenticed "Old Boys" who for the most part build in a traditional manner and also incorporated local traits too. Then latterly the "I know it all upstarts" who to be fair probably existed during the earliest times of building.
Each generation has added to or taken away in their own style and also how much the owners are willing to pay for "a proper job" or "that'll do until I can afford summat better" , which of course rarely happened.
That all said, I understand exactly what you're aiming to achieve, having seen other models from your past and the detail which you put into them.
However, do you think it would matter to the N'Th degree if some of the excellent work to date wasn't quite as per the photographs ?
I doubt if anyone is still around to advise otherwise as to whether you've build it correctly or not. Ok I would expect to get one so called clever b*gg*r make a comment but hey !
Would you be prepared to make a couple of trial pieces* of what your concerns are, and post them here for acceptance and piece of mind knowing that the majority of those following will be right behind you.
G
*don't need to be full on just something to show how you might want it to look
Peter Cross
Western Thunderer
Chris
From doing many hundreds of tons of stone on rooves, the old method was to lay the lead on the valley boards first. Or slates coursed up there. tiles would be taken right into the corner cut off at an angle. Sometimes slate was used under split instead of slate or lead under. The open valleys are quite recent, less prone to water ingress.
From doing many hundreds of tons of stone on rooves, the old method was to lay the lead on the valley boards first. Or slates coursed up there. tiles would be taken right into the corner cut off at an angle. Sometimes slate was used under split instead of slate or lead under. The open valleys are quite recent, less prone to water ingress.
GrahameH
Western Thunderer
Totally agree with this Peter, I suppose it also depends upon what the site has to offer in terms of materials.
That said what you have stated would be the obvious and correct method.
G