V2 4 wheel parcel van1/32 and G3

[michael mott]

Thanks Ian, yes I am cogitating about just how to tackle the holes. I am currently thinking about using the same waste chuck centered on the rotary table. That way I only have to set up once regarding concentricity. But before that I need to finish up the edge of the backside of the hub which I can pop out and just chuck up in a collet.
The bigger challenge is dividing 360 by 16 without a dividing head, my old 10 inch rotary table would have been easier to use but I gave it to my brother in Vancouver, and my little 4 inch one is really basic. I think that perhaps doing set of 8 first the being really careful and resetting half way between 2 holes and doing the second set might be the best.
Michael

 

[JimG]

The bigger challenge is dividing 360 by 16 without a dividing head, my old 10 inch rotary table would have been easier to use but I gave it to my brother in Vancouver, and my little 4 inch one is really basic. I think that perhaps doing set of 8 first the being really careful and resetting half way between 2 holes and doing the second set might be the best.
Michael

Maybe just draw out the angles on paper with successive halving to get the 22.5 degree angle divisions then draw circles to get the centres of the bolts then place drawing on wheel and centre punch through the drawing onto the wheel. Or get yourself a CNC mill or jig borer.


Jim.

 

[michael mott]

Or get yourself a CNC mill or jig borer.

I cannot see purchasing one of those anytime soon. However I can print the position of all the hole positions on label stock which is a good option.
Michael

 

[simond]

Have you got a smart phone?

They have digital level apps, which I have used when drilling in the lathe, just rest the phone on a jaw and turn chuck to obtain desired reading.

there were photos on RMWeb, but they were lost, unfortunately.

 

[michael mott]

After drilling the.030 holes though the front outer keeper ring and wood through the Tyre it was flipped over and then countersunk. The copper nails worked perfectly for the rivets.




I am happy with the results.
Michael

 

[Lyndhurstman]

I am happy with the results.
Michael

And so you should be. Stunning work, as ever. Lovely skills.

Cheers

Jan

 

[Tim Watson]

It will be interesting to note if the vehicle makes a different sound to conventional metal wheels.

Not sure if I have mentioned it before, but a vicar friend of mine told me that the houses in his parish ((Wolverton) often had paths with triangular wooden sets…

Tim

 

[michael mott]

It will be interesting to note if the vehicle makes a different sound to conventional metal wheels.

Not sure if I have mentioned it before, but a vicar friend of mine told me that the houses in his parish ((Wolverton) often had paths with triangular wooden sets…

Tim

That is interesting I wonder if they were salvaged from wheels or were just a quirky design?
Michael

 

[simond]

I’ve heard this too, apparently it was quite common, though I’ve not seen it.

I wonder if these setts were the offcuts, of which there would be plenty, I guess, and good hardwood too. Too good to burn!

 

[Tim Watson]

The wood setts were undoubtedly from scrapped wheels according to Ian (Pusey - S gauge modeller) as he was ministering to retired & active railway workers.

Tim

 

[michael mott]

After finishing up the outside rings the hubs were glued into the center of the wheels, then drilled to take the 00x90 countersunk bolts. I machined the bolts but cheated and purchased the nuts.
The front and back of the completed wheels.

Michael

 

[David Waite]

Absolutely wonderful Michael,
When you first started to cut the wooden segments they reminded me
of Pineapple pieces , I love Pineapple my mouth started watering and then you turned them into Pineapple rings
which made it even worse.
David.

 

[simond]

The wood setts were undoubtedly from scrapped wheels according to Ian (Pusey - S gauge modeller) as he was ministering to retired & active railway workers.

Tim

Thanks Tim, understood, but, assuming* the segments were cut from planks so the grain was radial, there would have been a pair of “half segments” for every segment.

* this is of course a big assumption. I have no idea which way the grain orientation was arranged. It seems most reasonable to believe that they didn’t turn slices of tree into wheels!

 

[Jon Nazareth]

After finishing up the outside rings the hubs were glued into the center of the wheels, then drilled to take the 00x90 countersunk bolts. I machined the bolts but cheated and purchased the nuts.
View attachment 214029 The front and back of the completed wheels.
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Michael

Gosh, Michael, they are even better than the ones that I made up.
Excellent work as always.

Jon

 

[Dog Star]

Seems churlish to say... what will you use to represent the earth strap between hub and tyre?

rgds, G

 

[michael mott]

Seems churlish to say... what will you use to represent the earth strap between hub and tyre?

rgds, G

I had not found my 46awg copper wire before taking the quick snapshot last night . Finally found it this morning and was able to add the grounding wire three strands twisted
Michael

 

[michael mott]

Turned up some axles tapered 1.5 degrees to the center.


Now back to the frames.
Michael

 

[michael mott]

Almost all the frame parts are made now

Set up my mini hand drill on the big mill to put th holes in all the pieces.

Next cut up the right angle bracket stared out with the jewelers saw, but decided to cut them mechanically so got out my little homemade saw table for my lathe a fiddle job to set up. If I were to make one again I’d probably make it differently.

After the first one flew across the room as the cut finished I set up’s clamp so that they stayed put. Slower but safer.

Ten done six more To go then all the angled ones.

Lunch time.
Michael

 

[michael mott]

After cutting all the 90 degree brackets, then enough blanks for the sets of angled brackets. A crude press cobbled together using my trusty machine vice and some stee bar stock.


Next to drill all the holes in the brackets.
Michael

 

[michael mott]

The second drawing is (also) for a Narrow Gauge Open Carriage Truck, the drawing is dated 1887 for lot 419.

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Here some enlargements of the brake parts.

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regards, Graham

Graham as I am closing in on the assembly of the frames it just occurred to me that the leaf springs appear to be threaded through all the frame angles. In the event of a spring break how would the spring be removed and replaced?
Michael