Mickoo's American Modelling Empire

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Mick

To control the motors I prefer to use 2 12 volt power packs wired together, then you can use single pole switches.
I think you get less wiring. The tortoise instructions have the wiring details.


Richard
Yes, I saw that set up; I do have a mind fumble connecting the + - of two power supplies together, we never covered that in college :D

I need to source some decent PSU, the plug top one is fine for testing and perhaps a small plank/temporary set up but some decent board mounted ones are needed long term.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
We use Wizard wire in tube for some of our turnouts and signals Mick, it allows the motors to be mounted remotely..
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Geoff wanted all the motors on top of the boards for future ease of maintainance.

Cheers
Tony
Tony,

The first one I trialled was wire in tube but I think I had too much flex as I couldn't get it to operate smoothly though it looks like you're using the pukka mounts with sliding arm in to give a nice clean linear throw.

My problem in the current location is a complete lack of forward planning and bodging as I go along. A combination of trying to minimize the track bed width, maintain reasonable grades and generally glueing and screwing bits of wood here and there; such that the three inboard units are mounted at a different lower level.

I didn't want to mount the TOU's vertically in this location as they then impede the sight line of the model behind, units mounted on the outside can be vertical as they'll be hidden by scenery.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Cheers, I'd already put some smaller 5v ones in the basket, the TOU has very low current use and the whole layout could be run from one supply if you go with the DPDT option.

I'm rapidly approaching that point where I do need to forward plan the power and electrics side of the layout.

Wireable plugs these days is a rarity :eek: :thumbs:

The advantage with off the shelf units like this is that they're easily replaceable in years to come when they fail.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Always a risk when you buy partially unseen, today I finally managed to have some train set time, nearly 3 months from the last time :eek:

Anyway, first task (today) was to sort through all the recent acquisitions (too many to post up here) and take photos for the digital archive; some I'll keep, some I'll muck about with, some I'll move on as they don't meet my era specification.

This looked a nice find, a little tired but then you get that with older HO models.

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Until I took it out of the box, the handrail will probably go on but the cab roof is buggered. I've not looked closely but at best it's a smooth down and repaint and hopefully some of the widow frame and glazing isn't too badly damaged.

Most of that area can be covered with the sun shade and these days the units are really weather worn, so it'll need patching and toning down to match the few I've seen in the PNW.

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You'll have to excuse the blurries, it was going considerable faster than I anticipated, Manifests at 60mph are scary!

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Slightly better at Connel, it being stood still helped enormously.

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But both show what I'd like to attempt, note attempt....not achieve :))

I do also have a much much better Proto 2000 60M which I had planned to turn into a BN 'Pale cheek' like above but it's such a good model it's a crying shame to repaint. The problem is a UP SD60M is way out of my time period, I think they're all been cut of for Bake bean tins.

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On the plus side these two were nice little gems in what was generally a very smelly poo collection with several items going straight in the bin, one DCC (no sound) and the other vanilla DC, both in mint factory condition.

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THe second task (tomorrow) is to complete lay all the tracks in the primary yard (longer stock - larger radii turnouts) and more of the lead to the secondary yard (shorter stock - tighter radii turnouts), aka turning perfectly good wood into sawdust.
 

JasonD

Western Thunderer
I like the top-down HO pics you're posting Mick. We get similar prototype pics infrequently and plastic O-scale models need to have roof detail shown off - freight cars too - oh, and the fiddly bits on intermodal ends, etc, etc ... modern HO models get well treated.
Jason
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
It's been a while and sadly very little to show on the HO layout, the day job just keeps getting in the way. On a positive note it doesn't stop me pressing the buy now button at auction :eek:

Having just entered my 6th decade a few days back this popped up on Ebay and whilst I'm not a big fan of the Standards I decided to give it anew home here and does complete the trio of turbines UP ran that I already have. It's a nice model and has some damage (not unexpected to be honest) of which most will straighten out, though some might cause a strip down and repaint.

It's actually a fringe version of the Standard class where UP trialed a propane supply engine with it's specialized tender behind, that's in the box and not photographed. That does limit your options, you can't run solo and you can run with an oil tender unless you start knocking it about, for the time being it'll sit in the OMI pile under the bench....with all the others...whilst I mull it's future.

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Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
It's been a while and sadly very little to show on the HO layout, the day job just keeps getting in the way. On a positive note it doesn't stop me pressing the buy now button at auction :eek:

Having just entered my 6th decade a few days back this popped up on Ebay and whilst I'm not a big fan of the Standards I decided to give it anew home here and does complete the trio of turbines UP ran that I already have. It's a nice model and has some damage (not unexpected to be honest) of which most will straighten out, though some might cause a strip down and repaint.

It's actually a fringe version of the Standard class where UP trialed a propane supply engine with it's specialized tender behind, that's in the box and not photographed. That does limit your options, you can't run solo and you can run with an oil tender unless you start knocking it about, for the time being it'll sit in the OMI pile under the bench....with all the others...whilst I mull it's future.

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That's a big yellow lump Mick! Is there some sideways travel on the middle two bogies to get around curves?
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
That's a big yellow lump Mick! Is there some sideways travel on the middle two bogies to get around curves?
No, there's a bolster that runs between the two bogies with a pivot midway to the body.

You can just see it on this Veranda.

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But it's slightly better in this U50BB which used the traded in bolsters and trucks from scrapped Standard and Veranda turbines.

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It's not very clear on the schematics either, not sure if I have a photo of a bolster set either under a turbine or U50.

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mickoo

Western Thunderer
The trip to Chicago last weekend was interesting, whilst I don't actively model US O it still interests me and I now view it more as a collecting side of the hobby than playing side, primarily because I don't have space to play (except maybe a depot scene or small industrial.

Overall I got away lightly and only came away with two items, nether of which I even knew existed so were not on my radar. First up is a SD90/43, these were built as dual engine units, at that stage both GE and EMD were looking at 6000HP prime movers and both companies produced products rated at level. However, the demand for new units kind of outstripped the development and testing of the larger horse power prime movers.

Both companies then built identical units that could be fitted with the standard 4400 HP blocks and converted to 6000 HP later, in reality this never happened and the 'convertibles' remained with the 4400 HP blocks. The EMD SD 90/43 was their convertible platform.

The model was cheap as chips as it's a dummy and has swung pilots, but it does have 2r scale wheels. Later in their lives CP rebuilt these into the SD70 ACu which I like a lot, I've several in HO so this might form the basis of a rebuild project; for now it'll go back (at least it should do but I reserve the right to change my mind :cool:) in the box whilst I get on with life.

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mickoo

Western Thunderer
The other model for me was the star of the show, I found it early on and the short conversation between seeing and emptying my wallet was extremely swift.

I recognized it was a N&W A class (a very prominent anorak in my US closet) but the detail was just too good for the normal brass import offerings, therefore the first question was who made it, the reply was PSM, now the heart rate is increasing......so, how much and does it have the original box?

To you sir $xxx and yes, it's fully boxed..... to be fair I kinda didn't hear what he said to begin with so asked again and it was the same figure :eek:....holly smolly..... that's a bargain I shouldn't really afford but there's no way on this planet it's not going in my suitcase, okay, do you take credit card? Of course we do!

So in the space of about 45 seconds I'd gone from ambling around as a spectator thinking there was little to interest me (I'm more diesel 1990 plus sort a guy) to burning a big hole in the wallet and walking out with 6Kg of brass model I never even knew existed, but if I had would have made it my life's ambition to acquire. You don't get many Easter eggs like this in a life time.

So what did we get then, well it's a N&W A class, considered by many as one of the most powerful steam locos ever built, you have to be wary when folks quote power and which is the greatest, typically the Big Boy is ranked top but some favor the N&W Y6 or C&O Allegheny, the later two are good in the hills when speed is slow and tonnage high and requires adhesion, the Big Boy tends to favour speed and high tonnage on relatively lower grades and that's exactly what the A class is for as well. Typically 'Tide Water' near flat level running with high tonnages, so they don't need as much adhesion and their power is used to gain higher speeds running from the hills to the discharge ports.

The engines are coal burners (as you would expect for a Railroad deep in coal country) and often towed an additional water tender to reduce stops along the way.

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There's a screw auger in the base of the tender hopper and connections for a flexible connection between engine and tender.

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There's something amiss with the ride height of the tender or engine, I need to look into this as it's clear the cab roof is too low and the fall plate sits at a jaunty angle.

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There is some damage as you'd expect from a model 46 years old (original receipt was in the box from 1982), some has been repaired but they've not taken the lacquer off so the joint is not the best it could be and the surrounding lacquer has boiled and darkened and will not be a good paint base.

The plan here is for a full strip down, cleansing of all lacquer, repair the damaged areas and clean up, add a few missing details (generally very little on PSM models to be fair) and rebuild. I'll also redo the leading engine live steam pipes, they're a bit under nourished and designed for Xmas tree curves, a better designed ball joint and pipe stem will make a big difference. It'll also get a coat of paint, decals and then some sympathetic weathering to bring out the details.

On the whole N&W kept their engines reasonably clean so it'll be a light weathering exercise.

All in all, very pleased with this model in my collection.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Finally, whilst in the Chicago area we visited a couple of model shops, for me I was after specific HO stock to make up shortfalls I had here.

One of the hardest things to get are modern tank cars in Lessor schemes or plain schemes, most in 1:1 life are just blank black cars but the majority in model form seem to favour those wise company logos on. Whilst there was an abundance of stock on offer in both of the shops we visited there was very little specifically that I needed but I did manage to grab a pile of tanks that have now bulked out my unit oil train, nine in total.

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I also managed to finally score a CP SD70 ACu, one of the five special models that CP did to commemorate the military (Airforce, Marines, Army, Navy) forces. Of the five they did, the rarest is the D Day invasion stripe model, I've never seen one for sale as a solo unit, they can be collected in the five unit packs but I've not seen a solo boxed version anywhere. I suspect that because the D Day version is not directly assigned to a real military branch then support or demand might be low, or that it's also very popular.

Either way it wasn't staying in the display case.

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Ideally I'd like to rebuild the cheap dummy O gauge SD90/43 seen earlier into a SD70ACu, specifically this one but a standard Golden Beaver scheme would also be nice.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Now that claas A is something else! I shall have to get OWL's 3 volumes out later and imbibe (wibble, wibble).

7mm scale? How long before we see it on the grade at Mr.Carr's place?

Thank you for sharing.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Now that claas A is something else! I shall have to get OWL's 3 volumes out later and imbibe (wibble, wibble).

7mm scale? How long before we see it on the grade at Mr.Carr's place?

Thank you for sharing.
You won't, as Richard notes, it's crude scale and re-gauging and machining to P48 is a huge chore which once done, cannot be undone.

The only practical way is to pull all the drivers off the axles and machine each one and then refit, then trim the length of axle poking out, you may even have to machine the axles if they have a gauge specific shoulder.
 
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