Breaking Ground - Finescale - of a sort

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Tom, I do indeed have an LT Gibson ticket machine, but after all these years the ink has finally dried out on the brush and I'm not sure where to acquire a fresh supply of the appropriate and distinctly purple kind! I also have the empty shell of a dating press from my old stomping ground of Maryland, (Stratford) but never got round to sourcing any of the internal parts to get it working again! Back in the old days of "Collector's Corner" I walked right past a box of spares... Oh well, spilt milk and all that!

Dave, I remember when those machines had LSD in the illuminated windows on top - and the pierced roundel still remains my favourite device!

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
I must confess that over the last month or so I have desperately been trying to present the appearance of normality, at least that was the hope, but in truth I have been struggling. Every time I approached any of the tasks laid before me a sense of near panic engulfed me. I just could not "see" a way through anything, and was becoming fearful of wasting all the previous effort and precious materials on a half finished structure that would be fully exposed to the worst of the winter weather to come.

Yesterday may have dawned bright and clear, but yet again nothing would have been done, but for the kindness of one our own fellow members and friends of WT who turned up fully armed with a substantial toolbox, some threaded rod and an essential supply of chocolate biscuits!!

(I hope you don't mind me mentioning your name Tony, but I am so grateful and think you deserve a medal!) While I spent most of the time causing a distraction by gleefully putting the world to rights, you still managed to get the job sorted out, once and for all...

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Not only are there four brand new bolts firmly fixed in place, but two lengths of angle are now set deep in fresh concrete down behind the platform slab to effectively secure the rear of the shed as well...

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Although it was not possible to get the angles any closer to the floor joist at either end - after positioning the building with allowance for the thickness of external cladding and the corner post where it meets the nearest wall panel - it should be fairly straightforward to run some more of the threaded rod through a simple form of spacer to lock it up solid!

Our local forecast is looking generally mild and dry for next week, and I am feeling much more confident and motivated to get going again. Although fitting out and painting might have to wait for next spring, at least there is now a much better chance that the building will actually be secure and weather tight before then.

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Thanks again Tony!

Pete.
 

Tom Insole

Western Thunderer
I love it when aid comes in a means least expected. Lovely to see some progress is happening. I’m still hopeful I’ll get a chance to nip in some time soon before all goes rather frosty, cold and dreary.
Any progress is progress dad!

Tom
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Oh well, the weather has not been particularly conducive after all! Absolutely everything got so wet that it would have been rather unwise, let alone unpleasant to attempt any work outdoors in those conditions. Quite apart from the fact that all the timber would be swollen, the prospect of reeling out an extension lead and using a mains power drill to bore out holes in the steel posts did not seem a very good idea!

Yesterday marked the end of the persistent rain for a while, and after doing a run-around while waiting for stuff to dry out a bit more I was at least able to crack on for a couple of hours before sunset!

This morning's images aren't particularly pretty I'm afraid...

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but represent another task more or less completed! Sloshing some hammerite over the exposed steel might be an idea for later on.

It has worked out rather nicely as it happens: The second-hand shed is (historically) a bit wonky, but that can now be compensated for. The alignment of the front joist is fixed, but has a degree of vertical adjustment with packings, while the rear can be moved fore and aft with the nuts on the M8 studs!

I am quite content that the arrangement is good and sound - and the jolly floor aint going nowhere in a hurry from here on!

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
This evening's pictures are even less pretty - me and my poor old camera couldn't cope very well with a November dusk!

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I can only physically manage to mix small quantities of muck in a bucket - about half a dozen bricks worth at a time, so progress is indeed painfully slow! Rolling the bucket around in an arc on its bottom edge really helps mix the sticky stuff, rather than having to do all the lifting and folding by the strength of arms and shoulders! Daylight frustratingly ran out after two batches this afternoon, but I am nonetheless happy that progress is happening!

One good thing about "slow and steady" though, and that is after what sometimes seems an eternity of grimly plodding along you suddenly realise that you are almost there!

I'm looking forward to an uninterrupted day tomorrow - and hopefully some better light too!

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Continued progress has been somewhat hampered by the horrible weather here - but it has been happening - honest! I haven't been able to post as a result of a problem with my laptop power lead though, and I have had to wait for a replacement to finally be delivered.

Now it is in it is time for a catch-up...

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It seems like an age ago that during one of the desperately brief dry spells I managed to get the building firmly screwed down onto the nice new floor joists!

Yeh, yeah, I know that in the above pic there is a gap, and a top course of brick still has to be laid under the sides, but my main concern has been to get the roof permanently in place and waterproof as soon as possible - I couldn't really entertain climbing up and doing that until the wobbly walls were firmly upright and secure!

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Tongue and groove boards are a bit of an extravagance, but I really want the visible inner roof to look a bit more appropriate than any of the common and cheaper sheet materials available - especially as I intend to hang light fittings inside and underneath the canopy! The boards are rather slender and terribly lightweight, but with the budget (ha, hah!) limitations I am quite happy with them?!

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There was one slightly awkward issue arising from using the lightweight boards in that they could only be locally purchased in multi-packs, and guess what? - I was one plank short of a complete roof! Never mind, for while it will admittedly be a bit on the delicate side, the remainder of the bundle can at least be chopped up and used for a dainty daggerboard valence.

Selecting options for a suitable top cover certainly caused some anxiety: I admit to an almost pathological distrust of that horrid, next to useless tarred felt stuff, and I'm particularly concerned that for this job the rearward pitch of the station roof would make regular visual inspections an absolute pain. so was not prepared to even consider it! I had originally hoped to acquire some nice, long lasting, practically maintenance free wriggly tin, but it seems that not only are there no traders that supply the stuff locally, but they all carry good stocks of the bitumen variety! I have not heard of anything good said about the latter and when I did try lifting a sheet, I found it to be surprisingly heavy, as well as having precious little torsional strength - so not a sensible option there either?! Somebody recommended a rubber based sheeting material that is designed to be glued down, (can't remember what it is called now) but nearly had kittens when noting how much it would cost - which would end up not that shy of a brand-new shed! Coated steel, "box section" sheets seem to be the perfect and preferred solution - but yet again, the price is a bit too silly for me when I looked it up?!

Rescue finally came with an offer of a freebie: A green and white, "cheapo" metal shed from a well-known outlet, had been partly assembled when it was blown down in a gale! Some of the wreckage was sorted and stored, and it turned out that there was sufficient salvageable material left to cover our roof - and even provide a bit extra to hang over the "blind" and slightly more vulnerable rear wall too!

Out came the trusty old scaffold tower...

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Nothing is ever that straightforward though, is it?...

It was only after laying it all out that I realised that the sheets had been rolled in three different sizes - with the long ribs spaced to suit the original front, (with doorway) sides and rear, as well as the roof (with overhang)! All sheets had pre-drilled holes top, bottom and across the centres - with none of course lining up with my own purlins! It was a lot of fun finding sheets that would not only align with each other, but after cutting, would lap over and cover the open holes.

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I also found that none of the sheets, even when theoretically matching, liked being overlapped twice! It probably didn't help that every sheet was already a bit crinkly as a result of the earlier gale damage.

In the end the only way to ensure a good seal was to use some self-adhesive flashing tape over the long joints. Embarrassingly badly applied, it may not be pretty, but from past experience I am quite confident that it is sufficiently durable.

Besides, it will only be seen by the birdies in them trees - or some poor fool who might find themselves caught in the brambles!!

Pete.
 
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Simon

Flying Squad
Fantastically well done Pete, you might call it a bit rough, but it really isn’t. I love the use of t&g rather than a (much easier) sheet material, it will look just right I think. And the re-cycled shed sheets as a roof covering is an inspired bit of recycling, I actually like the look of your tape over the joints, and as you say it is very effective stuff. And at the end of the day you have got the lid on!! I would be very chuffed with that, just think of all the tea drinking and cogitating you will all be able to do in the dry! Just fab.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you Simon, it is indeed that last thought that has kept me going!

I have been surprised by the level and degree of support and practical assistance given by my good lady wife on this project too!!

Pete.
 

Tom Insole

Western Thunderer
Can definitely tell no trains are running.. not only is the scafolding pertruding off the platform but look at all those leaves on the line! :-O

Sothern Rail.. Eat your heart out. Mind you I can only imagine the drivers are propbably on strike there too?

Booking office is coming along really well. I'd say the roofing has got to be a fantastic milestone to behold and as long as that tape seals that's all that matters. I've seen worse tape work that seals.

I can imagine the Valances might be a bit of a tricky one.. Is that on the cards for this season's running or one for next year?
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thanks Tom! The weather is continuing to be absolutely awful outside, so I'm going underground for a little while!

Down in the dank, dark dungeon I have set this beastie up on the bench - it was a bit of a struggle, ably assisted by its owner; Mr. O., to get it on blocks in order to avoid the bench vice - but we got there in the end.

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Now I will be able to clamp some chocks and blocks to cut the T&G into regular lengths and angles for the "Daggerboard" valences!

I read an interesting article about those decorative valences; and a point was made that they were not merely fitted for the sake of appearance, but among several benefits it was claimed that the serrated patterns help to create vortices below the canopy, thus reducing the "lift" effect that could potentially cause damage in particularly windy conditions. I don't really need such a perfect excuse, but if anyone asks...!!

The fun has indeed started, and this very afternoon I'm now trying to work out a design that I can manage to cut repeatedly and reasonably accurately - and at the same time be something that I can happily live with!

Pete.
 

Tom Insole

Western Thunderer
Well, going by my calculations you must be near on a couple hundred to make so I’m sure the rain might be a blessing in helping get the blade in motion! (If you’ll pardon the pun)


Taking Sudbury as an example of eastern region I could see a fairly easy way to produce a pro typical valance
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Photo found on the internet for reference purposes only…

Excusing the rather crude drawing using one’s mobile device and finger..
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Cut 1 - blue line to shave a couple of millimetres off around 2/3s up decided length.
Cut 2 blue lines to create the point,

3rd action (green circle) performed on pillar drill to achieve a half crescent each side that once put in sequence produces a similar pattern.

I believe batches could easily be set up with boxes for each stage to vary the rather daunting task to wrap around the whole canopy….

Tom.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thanks Tom! There will be quite a lot of sawdust generated, that's for sure!

I was thinking of clamping two boards together at a time in a cobbled-up jig on the drill press platter and whizzing a full circle out with a hole cutter, centred on the joint. Slitting the tongues (red line) up to the holes later means I won't have to take so much care with the depth of each cut and just keep going until the "waste" bits drop off!

Just hoping that the theories don't end up going out of the window, or the neighbours won't start making complaints about noise after the first dozen or so!!

Pete.
 

Simon

Flying Squad
I’d be more than delighted to have a neighbour making those noises, especially when it is such a good cause. Better than endless sanding of skirting boards……(!)
 

michael mott

Western Thunderer
Thanks Tom! The weather is continuing to be absolutely awful outside, so I'm going underground for a little while!

Down in the dank, dark dungeon I have set this beastie up on the bench - it was a bit of a struggle, ably assisted by its owner; Mr. O., to get it on blocks in order to avoid the bench vice - but we got there in the end.

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Now I will be able to clamp some chocks and blocks to cut the T&G into regular lengths and angles for the "Daggerboard" valences!

I read an interesting article about those decorative valences; and a point was made that they were not merely fitted for the sake of appearance, but among several benefits it was claimed that the serrated patterns help to create vortices below the canopy, thus reducing the "lift" effect that could potentially cause damage in particularly windy conditions. I don't really need such a perfect excuse, but if anyone asks...!!

The fun has indeed started, and this very afternoon I'm now trying to work out a design that I can manage to cut repeatedly and reasonably accurately - and at the same time be something that I can happily live with!

Pete.
I'm guessing that you do have a sawdust collection bag for the "beastie" or it is gonna make a bit of a mess.

Michael
 

Tom Insole

Western Thunderer
Thanks Tom! There will be quite a lot of sawdust generated, that's for sure!

I was thinking of clamping two boards together at a time in a cobbled-up jig on the drill press platter and whizzing a full circle out with a hole cutter, centred on the joint. Slitting the tongues (red line) up to the holes later means I won't have to take so much care with the depth of each cut and just keep going until the "waste" bits drop off!

Just hoping that the theories don't end up going out of the window, or the neighbours won't start making complaints about noise after the first dozen or so!!

Pete.
A jig sounds perfect. Theory would add additional support to prevent the piece slipping under force whilst the hole cutter makes its incision. Almost calls for a table saw to make the slitting cuts up to said holes. One that set to a required depth would keep a consistent cut on each side. Not to mention the speed it would add (quick nudge against the blade until it meets the hole and then flip over repeat… onto the next!

All sounds quite therapeutic once into a rhythm.

Tom
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Yes thanks Tom, the "beastie" will do the square and angle cuts while my old bench saw will be for the long ones - although it is a bit of a ripper, so I have to be careful with it!

I think Mr. O., does have a bag for his machine somewhere Michael, but I'll probably just get in a mess anyway - can I hope to break the habit of a lifetime?!

Pete.
 
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