Brettell Road, 1960s black country (ish)

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
I purchased a copy of the Jose Brito book. It’s heavy…both in kilograms, and in some of the subject matter, which is largely military, and rather bleak In parts.

It’s full of hints and tips with some really interesting stuff. I’m not sure I’d recommend it, but there are some exquisite diaoramas, large scale figures, and intricate details, and a lot of varied, and perhaps extreme, weathering. Also some techniques to use foam as a base for models.

It’s also worth noting that it’s pretty much an advert for Vallejo, and there’s more than a bit of “product placement” too.
I don’t disagree at all. I’ve long been a fan of military modellers books (although I don’t always agree with everything they do). It seems to be a thing for these books to be heavily linked to manufacturers. Vallejo, Mig and AK interactive all seem to duplicate each other with similar products should anyone have a particular brand loyalty.
 

simond

Western Thunderer
I wonder whether the relative sizes of the railway & military modelling hobbies makes a difference.

Perhaps the “collector” side of railway (and road vehicle) is much more significant that the “modeller”?

Is that a factor in military modelling?
 

SimonT

Western Thunderer
Vallejo, Mig and AK interactive
As I understand things, they were all set up by the same guy who falls out with his business colleagues and then moves on to start another paint, etc business. I've tried some of the AK interactive and they have two advantages over the earlier paints. There is a ball bearing in each paint pot to make mixing more effective. They also seem to grab metal well. I have some NS coupling rods that I just painted with a steel mix which remains on despite handling.
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
The aircraft guys mostly work in a same scale to us (well virtually the same) The emphasis in military modelling seems to be more about technique and the model itself than a quest for realism. in the large scale figure world it’s definitely technique first as they tend to look exagerated, almost cartoonish in the use of colour. The aircraft guys like to model every panel open so you can see the detail but it looks a little odd to me. There’s some techniques like pre shading which to me don’t look right either.

so I pick bits from different ’cousins’ of the hobby but don’t follow any one approach religiously.
 

matto21

Western Thunderer
I do both aircraft and railway modelling. There really is a wide held belief in the aircraft modelling world that you have to pre-shade or "black base" everything, and if you don't, your model is all the poorer for omitting this exaggerated shading.

I agree with Jim that pre-shading doesn't look right. It looks artistic, but not necessarily realistic. I personally don't believe pre-shading works well on rolling stock at all.

Sorry, I digressed from the thread!
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
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The good old Airfix cattle van. When I was a kid my dad built one of these so I decided Brettell lane should probably have one too. I deleted the opening doors (it was easier to replace the top ones completely than modify what was in the kit) and detailed the underframe with Mainly Trains, Bill Bedford and Rumney models parts.

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As with all Airfix kits of the time the roof was pretty clunky so that was replaced with a new one from 30thou plasticard and microstrip.

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Ive no idea when this kit was first sold but even with modern eyes this looks like it was bit of a bargain!

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Moving on to a more recent kit. The Chivers model for an LMS long low thats been in my stash for a few years now.

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Also from Chivers, and also from my stash, I've finished off another LMS double bolster. Chivers kits seem to have quite chunky underframe mouldings and while this isn't noticeable on most of their kits I've built it was kind of more obvious on the first double bolster I built (on the left). Potentially the use of sprung suspension adding to the problem I felt the underframe looked too wide and the w irons were too far from the wheels, giving a kind of 00 look to the wagon. On the new one (and the long low pictured above) I thinned the w irons to about half thickness and I'm happier now. It might very well that its only something I notice though!

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A 'historic' photo of the Barclay tank shuffling a steel train.
 
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Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
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The Airfix meat van I did a short while ago has peaked my interest just a smidge. There is a little bit of local interest for this (or a well sketchy excuse for me to go waffling on for a minute or two!).

Meat products moved by rail were probably most famous for the Palethorpes vans that operated out of the Dudley area but Brierley Hill was also famous for another processed meat producer, Marsh and Baxter. Founder, Alfred Marsh brought a pork butchers shop (with slaughter house) from E.J. Smart on Brierley Hill High Street in 1867 and initially started out curing ham and manufacturing sausages. By 1912 he brought the A.R Baxter factory in Dale End, Birmingham. Alfred Marsh died in 1918 and the business passed to his son Alfred Edward Marsh. After WW1 the company continued absorbing smaller firms and was eventually granted a Royal Warrant for its York Hams, which they supplied to Harrods.

In 1927 They began using their own siding at Brierley Hill Station and at their peak employed some 1500 workers and slaughtering approximately 2000 pigs per day. It was quite famous locally for an advert featuring a pig pulling a trailer loaded with sausages and the strap line 'Drawing his on conclusion'. In 1954 a modern office building was built on Church Street, Brierley Hill which being slighter higher than the Round Oak steel works did tend to dominate the town somewhat. They also took a keen interest in investing in and promoting local sports and social interests and had both a cricket and football teams (both mens and womens).

In 1962 the company was brought out by Falstock Marketing Corporation although the Marsh and Baxter name was retained. It would survive another 16 years until December 1978 when the company was closed.

Anyway enough of the history Lesson. 2 Parkside Meat van kits were sourced and the one above built as per the instructions. The white livery being a little different to the sea of grey and Bauxite.

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This one is a Diagram 1/250 example using Airfix ends kindly supplied by my friend Ian. Knowing what I know now it would have been better to use a parkside standard 12t van as the meat van has different doors. Luckily I still had some suitable doors in my spares box. The ens needed chamfering to 45 degrees to match the ends and the floor needed shortening a little as the Airfix ends are thicker. I also used some spare underframe mouldings to get the BR welded plate fronted axle boxes.

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On the subject of vans I quite like these ex GWR mink Gs. Another Parkside kit with Bill Bedford springing and some other etched bits and bobs to refine the underframe a little.

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Moving on to Parkside's latest effort. The BR 13t hopper. You can feel the Peco in this one! The underframe has similar feel (both in the way it's done and the plastic its done in) to the old wonderful wagons tank kits. I needed to get the scalpel out to get it to fit together the way it was intended but once done it does result in a pretty solid chassis. I don't know what happened with the supplied axleboxes but they seemed unfinished to me, almost as if there should have been an overlay as per the palvan kit. As there wasn't I cut them off completely and replaced them with Wizard Models castings.
The body isn't the best fit to the chassis either and the ends needed trimming to fit. Peco supply wire and a bit of plastic rod for the handrails and underframe but its all a bit overscale so I used 0.6mm brass wire on the underframe and 0.3mm nickel silver for the handrails. Speaking of which theres no way you are going to get the required long handrail into the plastic brackets on the end uprights without breaking them so its easier to snip them open and pop the wire in that way than to try.

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Knowing what to look out for it does build into a nice looking wagon and its pretty quick to bung one together. The model features some nice moulding on both sides of the hopper doors but with no where to really put any decent amount of weight I suspect many (like i will) will run them loaded.

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The inevitable comparison with my previous model from the Dave Bradwell kit. Draw your own conclusions.
 

Overseer

Western Thunderer
The inevitable comparison with my previous model from the Dave Bradwell kit. Draw your own conclusions.
Looking at Paul Bartlett’s photos the Dave Bradwell kit represents one of the Shildon built lots and the Peco one a Pickering built lot. The difference being the end steel plates folded onto the outside of the side plates on the Shildon wagons. Were Peco trying to reduce the thickness of the top of the sides by reducing the top rail thickness? Whatever the reason, the relationship with the verticals is not right. The end decks are too thick, probably quite a bit of work to correct. Odd about the axleboxes. Not sure if Peco are still planning a 7mm version but now know what to look out for while deciding whether to buy/build any.

The work to thin the double bolster underframe does improve its appearance.
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
You mean the overhang (or lack of) of the top rail?
I guess we will never know how far Richard got with the design but it does feel like the hopper is Parkside and the chassis is Peco. You could replace the floor ends with some 10 thou but it would then mess up the relationship of the end supports. I did something similar years ago with an airfix presflow but I can’t remember much about it now.
 

Wagonman

Western Thunderer
I seem to remember the Airfix kits being sold for two shillings (that's 10p for you youngsters) so this looks like taking advantage of decimalisation for a bit of price gouging, 17p being a bit under 3/6.
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
Just missing out on my last post is this model

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An LMS diagram 1945 Long tube. It uses a Parkside BR tube kit which has been shortened to 30ft 6in over the body (122mm) and 17ft 6in wheelbase (70mm). The corrugated metal ends have been replaced with planked ones from plasticard.

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A bit of a family tree starting at the top with an old Ian Kirk kit for the diagram 1675 wagon. The wheelbase for the top 2 are the same.

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Just a couple of pics for the hell of it!
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Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
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I was pleased to find that given the recent high temperatures and the layout living in a shed, that there appears to be no ill effects and all the rails are still straight and pointing in the right direction. I hope everyone reading this can say similar.

The above is a major blast from the past. Years ago when the West Midlands Area Group of the Scalefour Society was active, its organiser, Les, one week supplied us all with a parkside fish van kit. I think (memory is fuzzy if I'm honest) the idea was some sort of little competition to see what we would do with it. I don't recall that anyone did but since then its sat in my kit stash contemplating its place in the world. As you can see it's finally been built. I must admit the very long wheelbase produces a pretty ugly proportioned vehicle but its ready for service on Brettell Road. A note of thanks to Andy Hanson for kindly supplying the transfers.

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Above is a V33 van again from my spares box. It uses Ratio sides and a Cambrian 9ft wheelbase underframe. I don't know how I ended up with the sides and while all the bits had, obviously, been paid for at some point I'm calling this one a freebie!

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Added a couple of pre-Worboys road signs from Shirescenes. These are inspired by a picture of a Barclay tank crossing Level Street that I found. I made the furthest one about 80% the size of the nearer one to force the perspective a little.

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Finally a couple of milk churns from Modelu. To get the galvanised effect I painted them silver. Then a very light dusting of Halfords grey primer (holding the churn at arms length from the spray can) followed by matt varnish. I think it worked but if anyone will ever notice, who knows?
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
Construction has started on the latest building for Brettell Road. I've tried to incorporate some lessons learned from the previous efforts.

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The main lesson being to do something more robust with the corners as these have been slightly problematic in the past. I decided to laser cut the main carcass and overlay it with plasticard. It may have been easier in the long run to laser cut everything but I like working with plasticard and scalpels and i didn't fancy a huge session on my computer drawing bricks. As usual Tim kindly did the cutting for me. As you can see from the picture I've cut recesses in the corners and mounted some evergreen strip to give something solid for the overlays to stick too. It's early days but it seems very solid so far.

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Turning the part around and moving on a bit, this is the front. Ive built this in a kind of modular way. I drew up the windows and arches and had them etched. There are 3 of these sections required for the building.
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This is another section. Ive used the admin building from Round Oak as my inspiration but moved things around and adjusted them to suit. It's an 'inspired by' model rather than an exact replica. This section was on a different face to the one I am modelling as it overlooked Dudley Road.

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To join these bits together are some flat wall sections. These are the smaller ones. Ive missed some bits off at this stage as I figured it would be easier to add them once its all together.

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And the larger one.

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I didn't manage to find a huge number of images of the real building. Theres one in Ned Williams book on Brierley hill and this one that my friend Frank collins sent me. Sadly Frank passed away very recently and I missed showing him how I was getting on by only a month or so. I sincerely hope he would approve of my efforts. The model will be dedicated to him.

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Progress so far roughly plonked in position.

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And from the other end. Much still to do!
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
Breaking away from the current building works for a moment a little wagon based diversion. As per normal mundane stuff with a few little bits of tweaking that most people will likely never notice.

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Conflat A from the Parkside kit. As per the last time I built some of these I beefed up the links a bit as I thought they were far too subtle. I fancied an empty one for a change and also added a missing (yeah sounds a bit weird that doesn't it?) axlebox cover.

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Next up an LMS diagram 1838 container flat. Built from the parkside fitted LMS chassis kit with extra bits and bobs.

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Finally an eastern region plate. When i did my fish van a few posts ago someone on the clearing house facebook group (highly recommended if you are on facebook and like wagon building) pondered if the chassis could be used to do an eastern region plate. Personally i thought it easier to go with the supplied chassis and replace the brake gear. Another Parkside kit.
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
Conflat A from the Parkside kit. ..... also added a missing (yeah sounds a bit weird that doesn't it?) axlebox cover.
What would that have led to in real life? Lost oil or grease? A 'hot box'? Once inspected I expect it would have been red-carded out of a train and sidelined awaiting attention?
Neat detail though!! :thumbs:
 
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