Car Paint Matches
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Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
I have trawled t't net and come up with:
BS381C-227 dark Brunswick Green
BS381C-114 Rail Blue (stated name)
BS2660-9-095 Minerva Grey (Pearl grey as in Blue/Grey) number from Parkin Mark 1 book
BS2660-9-085 Castle Grey (Roof Grey) number from Parkin Mark 1 book
I have had one of each in 400ml cans of cellulose @ £13.14 each from a local car paint outlet. They would also mix up a total minimum 1 litre supplied in X (different colours) number of 250ml cans for airbrushing at a slightly lower cost, but I thought I would see how the aerosols worked first.
Just got to strip the 121 yet again
- so hopefully next week should see a posting on the W55034 thread
cheers
Mike
BS381C-227 dark Brunswick Green
BS381C-114 Rail Blue (stated name)
BS2660-9-095 Minerva Grey (Pearl grey as in Blue/Grey) number from Parkin Mark 1 book
BS2660-9-085 Castle Grey (Roof Grey) number from Parkin Mark 1 book
I have had one of each in 400ml cans of cellulose @ £13.14 each from a local car paint outlet. They would also mix up a total minimum 1 litre supplied in X (different colours) number of 250ml cans for airbrushing at a slightly lower cost, but I thought I would see how the aerosols worked first.
Just got to strip the 121 yet again
- so hopefully next week should see a posting on the W55034 threadcheers
Mike
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
Hi Mike,
What are you using BS 227 on, it's very dark and blueish. If it's for Loco green I would recommend BS 224
I've just bought a litre of 114 from the Internet, all the mixers I use have been unable to do it as its been removed from the BS list.
What are you using BS 227 on, it's very dark and blueish. If it's for Loco green I would recommend BS 224
I've just bought a litre of 114 from the Internet, all the mixers I use have been unable to do it as its been removed from the BS list.
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Warren,
thanks for the 'heads-up', it is going on a Bachmann 121 being finished as the current 121034 on the Chiltern Line. What would you be using if it were you?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/richa...VJa-gMFbqp-gME5Eb-gMDAHu-gMEiQX-gMDFJm-gMDGKi
cheers
Mike
thanks for the 'heads-up', it is going on a Bachmann 121 being finished as the current 121034 on the Chiltern Line. What would you be using if it were you?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/richa...VJa-gMFbqp-gME5Eb-gMDAHu-gMEiQX-gMDFJm-gMDGKi
cheers
Mike
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
That's BS 224 to my eye
That's what I've just painted this shunter in, (sorry for poor piccy
)
That's what I've just painted this shunter in, (sorry for poor piccy
)
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
Mike
Warning panel yellow either BS 356 or RAL 1003
The best colour for LMS red is RAL 3005 but I'm not quite sure about it. If your paint shop uses the Heikki (I think that's what the brand name is) colour truck range then try some D0795, all my Crimson lake locos are in it but no point putting a picture up because it looks different in every photo
. If you search Gordon's of Dewsbury and phone them, they will do you a celly spray can.
Personally never liked Damask, looks too pale. As if it's got a lot of light brown in it.
Unfortunately the problem with spray cans is that you are stuck with what's in it, I buy my celly in 1 litre tins. I have about 20 or so colours and can mix colours together. That's how I came up with the blue for Nicks princess. I now have enough of this to last a lifetime
Cheers Warren
Warning panel yellow either BS 356 or RAL 1003
The best colour for LMS red is RAL 3005 but I'm not quite sure about it. If your paint shop uses the Heikki (I think that's what the brand name is) colour truck range then try some D0795, all my Crimson lake locos are in it but no point putting a picture up because it looks different in every photo
. If you search Gordon's of Dewsbury and phone them, they will do you a celly spray can.Personally never liked Damask, looks too pale. As if it's got a lot of light brown in it.
Unfortunately the problem with spray cans is that you are stuck with what's in it, I buy my celly in 1 litre tins. I have about 20 or so colours and can mix colours together. That's how I came up with the blue for Nicks princess. I now have enough of this to last a lifetime
Cheers Warren
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Warren,
thanks for the reply.
I will be going over to the shop this afternoon to see what is what, but I think that I might have to stick with aerosols as my requirements are much less than yours and on that basis, I could end up with more than a lifetimes worth
even if my stock was in 250ml tins - etither that or I will end up touting for business
cheers
Mike
thanks for the reply.
I will be going over to the shop this afternoon to see what is what, but I think that I might have to stick with aerosols as my requirements are much less than yours and on that basis, I could end up with more than a lifetimes worth
even if my stock was in 250ml tins - etither that or I will end up touting for businesscheers
Mike
Mr Grumpy
Western Thunderer
Looks like you will be spraying 12" to the foot coaches
I spoke to Phil, the MD of Spraywell Dudley, and yes, they can supply in litre tins or other quantities if read.
Contact 01384 456069.
He sent me this info which he gave his permission to copy:
Hi Richard, my names Phil and I'm responding to your request to Gary for a list of available rail colours. As you may notice the list below directly refers to RM (Howes Railmatch) colours. It's also a simple cut and paste effort, so you'll be pleased to know there are also many more. Basically all RM colours to the best of my knowledge are available from ourselves at Spraywell Paints. Pigmentation of colour should be identical as I assure you ours is of the same source, the only difference being we are able to produce these colours in a wider range of finishes(Gloss, Semi-gloss, Satin, Matt) and topcoat materials (Cellulose, Coach enamel, QAD enamel, Acrylic, PVC) and also primers (Etch primer, Multi surface primer, Synthetic primer, Primer finisher). Colours we are unable to find in our library can be matched with our Spectrophotometer, should a suitable flat sample with a minimum surface area of 30mm x 30mm be supplied.
Reference Description
RM200 B R Light Executive Grey
RM2201 B R Dark Executive Grey (Acrylic)
RM2202 B R Post 1985 Warning Panel Yellow (Acrylic)
RM203 B R Rail White
RM204 B R Rail Red
RM2205 B R Rail Black (Acrylic)
RM2206 B R Rail Grey (Acrylic)
RM2207 B R Rail Blue (Acrylic)
RM208 Provincial Light Blue
RM209 Provincial Dark Blue
RM210 Latest Warning Panel Yellow (Class 66 etc)
RM214 Strathclyde PTE Red & Loadhaul Orange
RM2226 Railfreight /Civil Engineers and Dutch Livery Grey (Acrylic)
RM232 Warning Orange
RM234 Engineers Olive
RM235 B R Post 1964 Bauxite.
RM238 N S E Red.
RM239 N S E Grey
RM240 B R Silver White.
RM241 TPO and RES Red.
RM243 N S E (Later) Dark Blue.
RM244 Silver Grey.
RM2245 Flint Grey (Upper Body Colour for 3 Tone Grey) (Acrylic)
RM246 InterCity Falcon Grey (Swallow Livery)
RM251 RES Grey (Upper Bodysides)
RM255 E W S Maroon
RM256 E W S Gold (Bodyside Band)
RM258 D R S Blue
RM259 D R S Smoke Grey
RM260 Virgin Red.
RM261 Virgin Grey
RM262 G N E R Blue
RM263 G N E R Red
RM264 GW Trains Green
RM265 GW Trains Buff
RM266 Anglia Blue/Green
RM268 GBRf Yellow
RM269 GBRf Blue
RM270 Freightliner Green
RM271 Freightliner Yellow
RM272 Network Yellow
RM2273 Jarvis fastline Blue / Grey (Acrylic)
RM2274 Jarvis fastline Signal Black (Acrylic)
RM290 A R C Mustard Yellow
RM294 Foster Yeoman Silver
RM2300 B R Standard Loco Green (Acrylic)
RM2301 Sherwood Green (Lighter Green on B R Green Diesels except Hymeks & Deltics) (Acrylic)
RM302 Yellow/Green (Lighter Green on Hymeks & Deltics)
RM303 Light Grey for Bodystripes on Green Diesels.
RM304 Warning Panel Yellow (Pre 1985)
RM305 Buffer Beam Red
RM2306 B R Coaching Stock Maroon (Acrylic)
RM307 Early Multiple Unit Green
RM308 Later Multiple Unit Green
RM309 Freight Stock Grey Post 1964
RM2310 Roof Slate Grey (Blue/Grey Stock) (Acrylic)
RM311 B R Crimson (Blood)
RM312 B R Cream (Custard)
RM313 B R Coach Roof Grey (Except Maroon Stock)
RM314 B R Southern Stock Green
RM315 B R Electric Blue for LMR 25kv Locos, also some EM1 & EM2's
RM316 B R Nanking Blue for Midland & Western Pullman Units.
RM317 English Electric DELTIC Prototype Blue.
RM318 B R Golden Ochre (D5579 & D1015)
RM2320 B R Diesel Roof Grey (Green Diesels) (Acrylic)
RM321 B R Steam Loco Dark Blue (1948 - 1951)
RM2322 Freight Stock Grey Pre 1964 (Acrylic)
RM323 B R Freight Stock Bauxite (Pre 1964)
RM324 Pullman Umber
RM325 Pullman Cream
RM326 Royal Train Plum
RM327 Underframe Brown (Early Blue/Grey Livery)
RM328 Ice Blue
RM329 Early Post Office (G P O ) Red.
RM330 B R Road Vehicle Yellow
RM400 Signal Engineers Red
RM401 Signal Engineers Yellow
RM2402 Frame Dirt (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2403 Roof Dirt (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2404 Light Rust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2405 Dark Rust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2406 Sleeper Grime (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2407 Matt Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2408 Satin Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2409 Gloss Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2412 Weathered Black (Acrylic)
RM413 Aluminium
RM414 Polished Steel
RM2415 Oily Steel (Acrylic)
RM2416 Brake Dust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM417 Copper
RM418 Brass
RM2419 Matt Black (Acrylic)
RM420 Coal Black
RM2421 Matt White (Acrylic)
RM2422 Concrete (Acrylic)
RM2423 Light Brick (Acrylic)
RM2424 Dark Brick (Acrylic)
RM450 Faded Rail Red
RM451 Faded Rail Blue
RM452 Faded Warning Panel Yellow
RM500 Railmatch Thinners per 15ml jar.
RM2506 Universal Primer (Acrylic)
RM600 G W R Pre 1928 Green
RM601 G W R Post 1928 Green
RM602 G W R Coach Brown
RM603 G W R Coach Cream
RM604 G W R Freight Stock Grey.
RM605 G W R Coach Roof White
RM606 G W R (Buildings) Light Stone
RM607 G W R (Buildings) Dark Stone
RM608 G W R China Red
RM609 G W R Indian Red
RM610 L M S Crimson Lake.
RM611 L M S Freight Grey.
RM612 L M S Freight Bauxite
RM613 L M S Coach Roof Grey
RM620 L N E R Doncaster Green
RM621 L N E R Darlington Green
RM622 L N E R Garter Blue
RM623 L N E R Coach Teak
RM624 L N E R Freight Grey
RM625 L N E R Red Oxide
RM630 S R Light Olive
RM631 S R Dark Olive
RM632 S R Malachite Green
RM633 S R Goods Brown
RM634 S R Wagon Grey
RM635 S R Venetian Red
RM640 S & D Blue
RM645 Caledonian Blue
RM650 Midland Railway Red
I spoke to Phil, the MD of Spraywell Dudley, and yes, they can supply in litre tins or other quantities if read.
Contact 01384 456069.
He sent me this info which he gave his permission to copy:
Hi Richard, my names Phil and I'm responding to your request to Gary for a list of available rail colours. As you may notice the list below directly refers to RM (Howes Railmatch) colours. It's also a simple cut and paste effort, so you'll be pleased to know there are also many more. Basically all RM colours to the best of my knowledge are available from ourselves at Spraywell Paints. Pigmentation of colour should be identical as I assure you ours is of the same source, the only difference being we are able to produce these colours in a wider range of finishes(Gloss, Semi-gloss, Satin, Matt) and topcoat materials (Cellulose, Coach enamel, QAD enamel, Acrylic, PVC) and also primers (Etch primer, Multi surface primer, Synthetic primer, Primer finisher). Colours we are unable to find in our library can be matched with our Spectrophotometer, should a suitable flat sample with a minimum surface area of 30mm x 30mm be supplied.
Reference Description
RM200 B R Light Executive Grey
RM2201 B R Dark Executive Grey (Acrylic)
RM2202 B R Post 1985 Warning Panel Yellow (Acrylic)
RM203 B R Rail White
RM204 B R Rail Red
RM2205 B R Rail Black (Acrylic)
RM2206 B R Rail Grey (Acrylic)
RM2207 B R Rail Blue (Acrylic)
RM208 Provincial Light Blue
RM209 Provincial Dark Blue
RM210 Latest Warning Panel Yellow (Class 66 etc)
RM214 Strathclyde PTE Red & Loadhaul Orange
RM2226 Railfreight /Civil Engineers and Dutch Livery Grey (Acrylic)
RM232 Warning Orange
RM234 Engineers Olive
RM235 B R Post 1964 Bauxite.
RM238 N S E Red.
RM239 N S E Grey
RM240 B R Silver White.
RM241 TPO and RES Red.
RM243 N S E (Later) Dark Blue.
RM244 Silver Grey.
RM2245 Flint Grey (Upper Body Colour for 3 Tone Grey) (Acrylic)
RM246 InterCity Falcon Grey (Swallow Livery)
RM251 RES Grey (Upper Bodysides)
RM255 E W S Maroon
RM256 E W S Gold (Bodyside Band)
RM258 D R S Blue
RM259 D R S Smoke Grey
RM260 Virgin Red.
RM261 Virgin Grey
RM262 G N E R Blue
RM263 G N E R Red
RM264 GW Trains Green
RM265 GW Trains Buff
RM266 Anglia Blue/Green
RM268 GBRf Yellow
RM269 GBRf Blue
RM270 Freightliner Green
RM271 Freightliner Yellow
RM272 Network Yellow
RM2273 Jarvis fastline Blue / Grey (Acrylic)
RM2274 Jarvis fastline Signal Black (Acrylic)
RM290 A R C Mustard Yellow
RM294 Foster Yeoman Silver
RM2300 B R Standard Loco Green (Acrylic)
RM2301 Sherwood Green (Lighter Green on B R Green Diesels except Hymeks & Deltics) (Acrylic)
RM302 Yellow/Green (Lighter Green on Hymeks & Deltics)
RM303 Light Grey for Bodystripes on Green Diesels.
RM304 Warning Panel Yellow (Pre 1985)
RM305 Buffer Beam Red
RM2306 B R Coaching Stock Maroon (Acrylic)
RM307 Early Multiple Unit Green
RM308 Later Multiple Unit Green
RM309 Freight Stock Grey Post 1964
RM2310 Roof Slate Grey (Blue/Grey Stock) (Acrylic)
RM311 B R Crimson (Blood)
RM312 B R Cream (Custard)
RM313 B R Coach Roof Grey (Except Maroon Stock)
RM314 B R Southern Stock Green
RM315 B R Electric Blue for LMR 25kv Locos, also some EM1 & EM2's
RM316 B R Nanking Blue for Midland & Western Pullman Units.
RM317 English Electric DELTIC Prototype Blue.
RM318 B R Golden Ochre (D5579 & D1015)
RM2320 B R Diesel Roof Grey (Green Diesels) (Acrylic)
RM321 B R Steam Loco Dark Blue (1948 - 1951)
RM2322 Freight Stock Grey Pre 1964 (Acrylic)
RM323 B R Freight Stock Bauxite (Pre 1964)
RM324 Pullman Umber
RM325 Pullman Cream
RM326 Royal Train Plum
RM327 Underframe Brown (Early Blue/Grey Livery)
RM328 Ice Blue
RM329 Early Post Office (G P O ) Red.
RM330 B R Road Vehicle Yellow
RM400 Signal Engineers Red
RM401 Signal Engineers Yellow
RM2402 Frame Dirt (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2403 Roof Dirt (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2404 Light Rust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2405 Dark Rust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2406 Sleeper Grime (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM2407 Matt Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2408 Satin Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2409 Gloss Varnish (Acrylic)
RM2412 Weathered Black (Acrylic)
RM413 Aluminium
RM414 Polished Steel
RM2415 Oily Steel (Acrylic)
RM2416 Brake Dust (Weathering Colour) (Acrylic)
RM417 Copper
RM418 Brass
RM2419 Matt Black (Acrylic)
RM420 Coal Black
RM2421 Matt White (Acrylic)
RM2422 Concrete (Acrylic)
RM2423 Light Brick (Acrylic)
RM2424 Dark Brick (Acrylic)
RM450 Faded Rail Red
RM451 Faded Rail Blue
RM452 Faded Warning Panel Yellow
RM500 Railmatch Thinners per 15ml jar.
RM2506 Universal Primer (Acrylic)
RM600 G W R Pre 1928 Green
RM601 G W R Post 1928 Green
RM602 G W R Coach Brown
RM603 G W R Coach Cream
RM604 G W R Freight Stock Grey.
RM605 G W R Coach Roof White
RM606 G W R (Buildings) Light Stone
RM607 G W R (Buildings) Dark Stone
RM608 G W R China Red
RM609 G W R Indian Red
RM610 L M S Crimson Lake.
RM611 L M S Freight Grey.
RM612 L M S Freight Bauxite
RM613 L M S Coach Roof Grey
RM620 L N E R Doncaster Green
RM621 L N E R Darlington Green
RM622 L N E R Garter Blue
RM623 L N E R Coach Teak
RM624 L N E R Freight Grey
RM625 L N E R Red Oxide
RM630 S R Light Olive
RM631 S R Dark Olive
RM632 S R Malachite Green
RM633 S R Goods Brown
RM634 S R Wagon Grey
RM635 S R Venetian Red
RM640 S & D Blue
RM645 Caledonian Blue
RM650 Midland Railway Red
Chuffer
Active Member
VW Sumatra Green cellulose paint was perfect for BRS coach green. The last pot I bought from a VW paint supplier was around 1989, so it may well be discontinued but if I can find out more I'll update this thread soon. For those who remember my layout Hursley, colour images of the push/pull set appeared in a Railway Modeller back in 1990 - sadly I don't have any colour prints of my own from that period.
Len Cattley
Western Thunderer
What colour does Halford do for BR Bauxite?
Len
Len
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Oxide Primer?
Len Cattley
Western Thunderer
Ok I'll have a look when I get to Halford.
Len
Len
Its not really orangey enough, but there is no substitute available. There is a lovely photo in this month (April 2016) Backtrack p197 of a brake van special, the two leading vehicles are very obviously brandly GR's and the contast with those behind them is extremely noticeable! And I don't believe the Freight stock red was as orange in 64 as earlier, but difficult to prove.
I agree Halfords primer red oxide - although other similar paints are probably just a suitable and would give a bit of variety.
Paul Bartlett
I agree Halfords primer red oxide - although other similar paints are probably just a suitable and would give a bit of variety.
Paul Bartlett
Len Cattley
Western Thunderer
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
There are plenty of Ral and Bs colours and any auto paint supplier worth its salt will supply you an aerosol in enamel or celly.
Maybe ral 8004 as a starting point
3009 is red oxide
Bs381c 445 is also a possibility
Maybe ral 8004 as a starting point
3009 is red oxide
Bs381c 445 is also a possibility
Lancastrian
Western Thunderer
I've used Renault 923 (MMD6-5550) Vert CE for BR(S) EMU & DEMU's.
Ian
Ian
