Finney 7 LNER A4

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by P A D, 1 October 2018.

  1. Tim Watson

    Tim Watson Western Thunderer

    Just a very small mod, but when I made my one, many moons ago, I filed out the gauge glasses and replaced them with polished Perspex. The chevron was painted on the metal backing to indicate water level.

    Last edited: 21 January 2019
  2. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Hi Tim,
    It's a nice touch. I've seen it done before and keep meaning to give it a try. First I need to source some suitable perspex, but as far as this build is concerned, too late to start hacking the casting.

    Back tracking a little here is a side on view of the strips soldered to the top edges of the cab sides, for providing increased surface area for epoxying the roof on after painting.

    I've removed the tiny hand wheels from the manifold and replaced with some lager ones. At Dave's prompting I've also tidied up the regulator handle as well as smoothing the file marks on the right hand gauge glass. 20190121_140343.jpg

    And refitted into the cab. I note also in Tim's post that the flap in the fire hole door is open and he's added the catch as well. Another nice touch to plagiarise some time.

    And with the roof on. 20190121_190951.jpg
    I must give the back of the driver's seat a scrub with the fibre pen to remove the staining.

    I gave the tender a wash to take some photos tomorrow in daylight, but I know there can never be too many photos in a post, so here's a few while it's clean.




    And some more of the loco. As far as the detailing is concerned, I think I covered every thing that's visible from normal viewing angles, but if anyone spots something I've missed, speak up.






    That will be if for now until I get the motor. I need one for the A3 as well so that's quite an investment in ABC Gears.

    Does anybody know if those printed cab dials are still available. J have some BR ones but no LNER.
    Cheers ,
  3. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    Have a word with @Rob Pulham - he may have a little bit left
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  4. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Thanks Adrian.
    Rob has already been in touch as well.

    Just to round things off, a couple of shots on my brother's railway.


    I gave it a test push through the wider curves and it just about makes it. The front bogie wheels touch the pipes on the drain cocks, so I may cut them shorter.
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  5. mickoo

    mickoo Western Thunderer

    I wouldn't cut them back, it'll spoil the look, you could ease them out a little. As for shorting, doesn't really matter.....if only one wheel shorts, it only matters if opposing wheels short, at the same time, unless of course you're using the US method of pick up....which I doubt.

    Another method is to coat the inside with a thin layer of epoxy, it'll take ages to rub through and when it does, smear some more on.

    Turned out nice though, worth all the little extras as well.
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  6. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Thanks Mick,
    I like to add what can be seen on the outside. Looking back at some of my earlier models, I see lots of missing stuff that I wish I'd put on. I suppose as the skill set improves, what we are satisfied with evolves. I know you and others like to add a lot more in "hidden" areas and all credit to you for doing it. I marvel at the results, but it's not my thing.

    On reflection, cutting them back is not an option. I'll know better how the pipes impact on the running after I get the motor and pick ups on.

    Pity I can't get to Bristol. It would be nice to see your latest efforts on the W1 and your not amused reaction, when one of the punters tries to pick it up.

    :rant: This is you jumping up and down on the punter! :):):)
  7. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    PS. of course the flexible cover between the loco roof and tender could be added, but I don't know how to do it convincingly and the model still be able to run round curves.
  8. 7mmMick

    7mmMick Western Thunderer

    Superb as usual Peter, a really nice build. What’s next on the list mate ?
  9. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Thanks Mick.

    Nothing new in cupboard at the moment, but I've got lots of outstanding paint jobs to do for my brother.

    Not sure what I'll go for next. I fancy getting something smaller that I can run on my brother's railway, before doing another big one.

    Having moved the CPL LNER coupling to the loco, I've replaced it on the tender with a spare generic one. It was miss cast so I soldered the links to the turn buckle as it just has to hang on the hook to the right of the buck eye.


    It looks to be hanging a bit low but it's well clear of the rail.
  10. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    This may be of interest to those who are not aware. Ellis Clarke Trains do some nice storage boxes to suit small, medium and large locos. This one for the A4 is the latest of several that my brother and I have bought. The boxes are made from robust card, well lined with foam all round, as well as at the top and bottom. They come with 3 vertical foam inserts that allow you to separate the loco and tender. The third one is not used on the A4, but for a for a shorter tender loco, it could be and is easy to cut with a sharp craft knife. With the imminent availability of the Finney 7 W1, one of these may be useful, as the box the kit comes in (assuming it's the same as the A4) won't hold the finished model. Not as robust as a wooden case but more than adequate for all but the most hamfisted owners. A lot cheaper too.

  11. warren haywood

    warren haywood Western Thunderer

    Much better than those horrible wooden things where your never sure if the catches are properly engaged:mad:.
  12. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

  13. Prairie Tank

    Prairie Tank Western Thunderer

    The more I gazed in awe at this the more I am convinced that some one has just shrunk a real loco!!!!

    Absolutely superb!

    John :)
  14. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Is that the voice of experience Warren? Come on, own up. Who's loco did you drop.:eek:

    Many thanks John. The Martin Finney kits are superb and as can be seen from Mickoo's W1 build, Finney 7 are taking them to the next level. I doubt it will be painted before Kettering so if I can get down to the show I'll bring it along. I've just contacted ABC about a suitable motor and gearbox so I may even be able to run it on the test track.

    Ps assuming it doesn't snow like last year!
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  15. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Ellis Clark now has a fantastic showroom with all the models in display cases and you can visit without an appointment. They also have a 6 foot diameter test track to run the models. When I was there last week there was a rake of Darstaed BR Mk1 coaches on display. I have to say that for the money they are superb!
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  16. Richard Spoors

    Richard Spoors Western Thunderer

    Peter, I see from your David Andrews 7mm Stanier 2 6 4 tank thread that you chose a VMS2C ABC gearbox for your A3 and A4. Was there a particular reason why you chose these raking designs over the standard VML2? I fitted the latter into my Finney 7 V2 on the rear driving axle with the motor facing to the rear. It was a snug fit mind! I hope to see (and admire) your A4 on Saturday.
  17. P A D

    P A D Western Thunderer

    Hi Richard,
    While my Gladiator Duchess was with Warren Haywood for painting, I put the motor from that in the A3 for a while. It fit nicely and ran well, so having checked with Brian ar ABC before ordering, I went with the same for the Gresley Pacifics.

    I'm hoping to have the 2 6 4 up and running so I doubt I'll get time to fit up the A3 and A4, but I'll bring them along and am more than happy to show the to you. I'll drop you my mobile number on a PM and you can ring me so wd can meet.

  18. Richard Spoors

    Richard Spoors Western Thunderer

    Good plan, thanks, Richard
  19. topshed34a

    topshed34a Western Thunderer

    I have just glanced through this whole post and I'm simply stunned how it can be built so neat, and the absence of any solder showing.
    Maybe it's just me
    I just started to read this thread, I have just started mine and I'm just in awe at how good it looked?
    I can't see any solder yet it obviously has been and that really alludes me.
    Right now I can't work out how f40 the cylinder drain cock linkage is folded and fitted.
    It's driving me crackers.
    Regards Steven
  20. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    take a look at PAD's post #194. I think it looks like a GW linkage and folds into a ] shape to slide onto the spigots on the cocks.

    F7 GW Bod!