7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi all

Still here, still ballasting, still building retaining walls, but at least things are being painted now.

We had most of the gang round today and everyone seemed to be doing something constructive. The first iteration of the sequence is done, but there's a huge amount left to do.

Anyway, 2 photos from today, one tongue in cheek and one not.

 

[Dog Star]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Tongue in cheek or otherwise, the first photograph seems to depict an ancestor of Canute who, following a meeting with the Doctor, has been beamed into the 20th century.

So, just what is the chap doing in the siding?

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi

I took some videos yesterday to illustrate 10001's sound chip for a 3rd party. If you are interested, they are here (plus an 8F!)


Richard

 

[28ten]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Did they really whistle like that? the 8f sounds excellent 

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Haven't got a clue

I have sent the link to Mr.Dale sr who seems to know a lot more than I do, so it will be interesting to see what he says - I think he has a recording of 10000/1,

Richard

 

[28ten]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Haven't got a clue

I have sent the link to Mr.Dale sr who seems to know a lot more than I do, so it will be interesting to see what he says - I think he has a recording of 10000/1,

Richard

I was half joking  but I suspect that it is the recording picking out high frequencies, no doubt Steph will have an explanation of the stuff I dont understand 

 

[Steph Dale]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Well it's Mr Dale Junior here for the moment...

There are Peter Handford recordings of all five of the early main-line diesels already in the public domain.

10000/10001 and the first two Bulleid locos had low pressure turbo and so had more of a chug than a whistle; more like a class 37 to my ears.  10203 was a real whistler though and mechanically was pretty much identical to a Class 40, so no real surprise it sounded like one.

I'll have a listen to the YouTube postings when I get home.  i'll be very interested to hear the horn as I suspect the real things sounded more like a small US-style 'blatt' horn rather than a Stanier 'hooter'.

Incidentally, I'm intending to build a sound profile for 10000/10001 as my Dad has just finished building a pair of them from the RJH kits - he's made a fantastic job of them, even managing to straighten out many of the detail/dimension nasties.  Until I get that done he's intending to use SWD Class 37 recordings and hoping that they won't mind loading a US-style horn of our choosing, rather than the BR two-tone jobby.

And Cynric, for the moment I'll stick with 'yes' in answer to your most recent posting... ;-)

Steph

 

[Scale7JB]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Very nice.. Which kit is the Gresley full-brake in the video with the 8f?

JB.

 

[Steph Dale]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Right, I'm 'ome now and have had a look at the YouTube stuff...:

The 8f is lovely.  Actually I think I'd like to know who did the profile as I think it'd probably work a treat in my SR Q1!
10001.  Erm, no.  Waaaaay too much turbo sound.  But, the horn is much as I'd expect/hope and the characterisation as the loco starts and changes speed is absolutely cracking... 

It's really good to see it all operating so smoothly as well and the sound adds a great deal to the video.  I can't wait to see Heyside in the flesh when the time comes!

Steph

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Very nice.. Which kit is the Gresley full-brake in the video with the 8f?

JB.

Hi JB

It's a Bitsa kit ;D

Kirk sides, ends, roof. Aluminium floor pan. Cavalier Fox bogies. Sparmac/scratchbuilt underframe. ABS roof vents. Scrapbox odds 'n sods. Built just to see how well the Kirk modular system worked, and what you could do with it.

Richard

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

10001.  Erm, no.  Waaaaay too much turbo sound.  But, the horn is much as I'd expect/hope and the characterisation as the loco starts and changes speed is absolutely cracking... 

It's really good to see it all operating so smoothly as well and the sound adds a great deal to the video.  I can't wait to see Heyside in the flesh when the time comes!

Steph

Hi Steph

Thanks for that. Now, are you being polite, or is the turbo your only reservation? If so,what can we do about it (note the 'we', it's beyond me!).

What are you going to recommend to Mr.Dale sr? I do think 2 of those in the twins will be awesome.

Richard

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi

Right, a bit more modelling now....

You might remember I put out a request for help on some lattice footbridge etches. Cynric came to my aid. Between us we designed a kit, and Cynric did all the hard work with the CAD work and organising the photo tools, etches etc. The long and the short of it is that I now have a 60' lattice footbridge kit, and we took the opportunity to put some other stuff on the etch that I knew I would need.

 

[Ressaldar]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi Richard,

some footbridge that - a big to all concerned.

cheers

Mike

 

[Steph Dale]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi Steph

Thanks for that. Now, are you being polite, or is the turbo your only reservation? If so,what can we do about it (note the 'we', it's beyond me!).

What are you going to recommend to Mr.Dale sr? I do think 2 of those in the twins will be awesome.

Richard

Richard,

I have no doubt the discussion of the sounds to use will occupy some time for the three of us at Telford!  But I'm going to see if I can find an equivalent horn sound in the ESU library.  I'll then consider doing the Class 37 plus new horn option.  I've had an email from Snr on the subject yesterday and he's told me that the sound is of a 'de-rated' Class 40.  Which is fine, except that the EE engines, being four stroke were probably de-rated by reducing rpm, not turbo pressure...

The turbo is my only reservation - the rest of it is very well done.  Even the recording clarity is pretty good. 

In terms of doing anything about it.  First is to consider if you care enough (I'm not convinced that Snr does care enough!).  If you do care enough, it should only be a re-blow of the decoder's sound profile.  One thought is to ask Howes to graft the horn onto their unrefurbished Class 37 profile and have done with it...

I've just had a look at the Howes 'site and I quite like their listings.  Now having heard their profiles in your 8f and 10001 I'm very happy with the sound.  But how on earth they can justify a 20% premium over the SWD prices I don't understand.  A shame really, there's a couple there I'd really like to try (Q1, Pannier, City, would all work well in current projects)...

Steph

Edit to include last paragraph.

 

[Steph Dale]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Just rang Howes - they're happy to drop the 10001 horn into their Class 37 profile as a 'special'.

Snr will be pleased....  ;D

Steph

 

[28ten]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

I thought there might be a little distortion  :scratch: essentially it is a trade off between rigidity and a load of etch cusps to file off    we could possibly have used 10 thou for the latice punched the rivets and then used an overlay for the flanges  :scratch: Hindsight and all that 

 

[Scale7JB]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Bridge looks mega! Like that a lot..

I was kinda hoping that the full brake would be a Kirk kit... I might pick one of those up at Telford..

Question is Richard, do you need some Gresley 8'6" sprung bogie frames? I guess the proverbial horse might already have bolted..

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Bridge looks mega! Like that a lot..

I was kinda hoping that the full brake would be a Kirk kit... I might pick one of those up at Telford..

Question is Richard, do you need some Gresley 8'6" sprung bogie frames? I guess the proverbial horse might already have bolted..

 

[Dikitriki]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Hi

Progress report on the footbridge.....

I've built and added the second side, made the smoke shields and added the staging for the signals, and started to work my way round with a rivetted overlay.

 

[Steph Dale]

Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Nice neat work that, Richard!

Steph