Mr Grumpy

[Yorkshire Dave]

Not much room if one was using two motors and an XL decoder.

As long as you use two low current motors i.e. Canon 1833 as in your Cl.22 there is no need to use a LokSound XL decoder. You can use the LokSound L V4.0 instead which is much cheaper than the XL.

Having a continuous load of 3A on the motor output it makes it suitable for twin motor O scale locomotives and is more than adequate for modern low current motors. It also gives you peace of mind if you are concerned about using the standard HO V4.0 decoder for dual motored locos. ESU's additional information guide for the LokSound L 4.0 is attached and apologies if you have already seen it.

The LokSound L was designed to fill the gap between the HO V4.0 and XL.

As Cliff says above - if you mount the decoder to the body (I would also attach the speaker to the body as well) you will not disturb any lighting (or sound) wiring looms. All you would need is a 4 pin connector from the track and motor to the decoder meaning you only have one loom to fiddle with when attaching the body to the chassis. This is my intention with my P48 GP9 but a tad more difficult as it has a long narrow hood like a Cl.20 rather than a wide body (the latter known as cowl units in the US).

Nice diesel builds . Now a guessing game as to what follows the Cl.22.......?

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The wiring is complete now. There isn't any lighting on the loco, so just the motor and speaker.
The chassis runs very quietly and smoothly, until you turn on that nice big speaker..

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

until you turn in that nice big speaker..

Rock n' Roll - nowt like cranking up the volume.

 

[Cliff Williams]

The Loksound L strikes me as a poor halfway house.
The speaker output is abysmal and it does not have stay alive ability.
Once you add on a stay alive pack financially the difference is not enough when you factor in the lower sound output.

I use the Loksound L only in tanks with bigger old fashioned motors. Otherwise go for the XL

I do not think Grumpy it is practical to use twin CJW speakers on the small "OO" sized V4 chip.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

No probs Cliff.... It sounds great with the one speaker

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The roof and body are now sprayed , and the window surrounds have had their first coat. One of the quarter light Windows pushed in while I was masking up, but I managed to pull it back with a bit of tape and a tiny drop of glue.
The radiator and fan grilles and other castings have yet to be fitted, but I'm on the home straight
The radiator block and roof fan aperture have been painted in a nice filthy mix as this won't be a clean loco!

 

[Mr Grumpy]

A quick look at the fan before the grille is fitted. I have toned down the roof panel and will leave it now until the transfers are fitted and varnished.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I have a few packs of CPL couplings, but none matched those fitted to the class 22 in the early years. I think I could have used the top 1/2 of a diesel coupling and the bottom 1/2 of a wagon coupling as I did on my MMP B tanks. Working out at around £16.00 this option is a tad pricey, so I decided to have a go at the JLTRT set supplied.

Sometimes, the JLTRT coupling need a lot of fettling to get them to work and look ok. These were no exception, and required the use of my 12BA taps and dies, and a lot of patience. But it was nice to spark up the soldering iron again
Anyway, they came up fine as the photo shows.......



The eagle eyed amongst you will notice the reporting disks aren't fitted yet. The lost wax disks supplied are fine, if a little thick, so I'm going to try my hand at these working variety, again from JLTRT.

I'm not 100& convinced with the handrails, and may replace them with fine wire. The strange thing is, when you don't want something to fall out or off it will (Glazing) when you want something to come off......

 

[Healey Mills]

Hi Richard,

The loco is looking very nice indeed.

I shall be watching how you get along with those etched headcode discs... it's something I've thought about myself.

Cheers
Lee

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Hi Richard,

The loco is looking very nice indeed.

I shall be watching how you get along with those etched headcode discs... it's something I've thought about myself.

Cheers
Lee

Laurie told me they are very fiddly
But then so are the couplings

But that's the fun of it!

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Hi again Lee,
I have found the lamp holes are too big on the etched disks for my loco, so I won't be using them
It's a shame because they are a really nice etch, and would have looked great even if they were just posed in the open or closed position.
So, back to the cast set!

 

[SteadyRed]

MMP offer a diesel detailing set of etches & castings, lots of useful detailing parts including 8 etched disks

Dave

 

[Mr Grumpy]

MMP offer a diesel detailing set of etches & castings, lots of useful detailing parts including 8 etched disks

Dave

Thanks for the tip Dave!
I have just come in from spraying the cast disks. I need to simulate a lamp lens behind the open disks (only one at each end.... passenger/mixed train and branch freight at the other end)
I will pop them on later and see how they look

 

[Healey Mills]

I need to simulate a lamp lens behind the open disks (only one at each end.... passenger/mixed train and branch freight at the other end)
I will pop them on later and see how they look

Hi Richard,

For lamp lenses I use some 1.7mm fibre optic. Just shape into a dome on one end, cut and having drilled out the moulded light place into position.

Cheers
Lee

 

[Mr Grumpy]

.....I cheated and glued some grey shiny plastic film behind the disk

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Sorry, I can't post photos at present
They upload elsewhere but not on here. I will get the camera out and try to upload from the laptop.
Anyway, the discs and transfers are on, and I'm quite pleased. I will fit the wipers and rad grille during weathering. I'm still debating replacing the cab handrails too.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Managed to upload from my laptop

Just nipping in to add the yellow route dots to the cab sides

 

[Healey Mills]

Hi Richard,

That's a very nice job.... I guess you are going to start weathering it in a few days time.

I wonder why the headcode discs were initially put onto the locos on their sides??? Although that is how I know they were, they look odd. Well to me anyway

A fine build!!!

Cheers
Lee

 

[oldravendale]

Mr G.

Apologies for being a bit late in putting these on your thread in case they might be of help.



Both brand new at Swindon in May 1959. I wonder if I saw D6327 at the same time.

Just a query - those air intakes (grilles on the side - I'll guess that's what they are but as I'm not a diesel-o-phile I can't be sure) are quite chunky with the bars going across them. Will these receive a cover of some sort eventually?

Brian

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Mr G.

Apologies for being a bit late in putting these on your thread in case they might be of help.

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Both brand new at Swindon in May 1959. I wonder if I saw D6327 at the same time.

Just a query - those air intakes (grilles on the side - I'll guess that's what they are but as I'm not a diesel-o-phile I can't be sure) are quite chunky with the bars going across them. Will these receive a cover of some sort eventually?

Brian

Hi Brian,
Many thanks for the photos! I wish I had started taking (and KEEPING!) photos far earlier than I did

The radiator intake is now nicely covered with a fine etched grille.
Makers plates will be fitted after varnishing