Prototype Tim Mills' Photos

[Yorkshire Dave]

My understanding (not necessarily correct) is that locos were changed (LNW/LBSC) at Willesden or thereabouts on the Sunny South Express. Indeed, somewhere I have a vague recollection of reading of some comparative tests that took place when the LBSC loco continued northwards over the LNWR (possibly related to superheating). I assume an LNWR loco would be too tall to run on the LBSC as the LNW loading gauge was exceptionally generous height-wise.

My understanding is the locos were changed at Willesden. The tests were related to superheating as the LBSC Marsh I3 4-4-2T was a fuel efficient engine.

The LBSC also had a generous loading gauge (balloon stock was restriction 5 under SR days) and it may have been turntable lengths at the time which prevented other railways large locos from working through given the Marsh Atlantics were probably the LBSCs longest locomotives at a shade over 58' over buffers.

 

[40057]

My understanding is the locos were changed at Willesden. The tests were related to superheating as the LBSC Marsh I3 4-4-2T was a fuel efficient engine.

The LBSC also had a generous loading gauge (balloon stock was restriction 5 under SR days) and it may have been turntable lengths at the time which prevented other railways large locos from working through given the Marsh Atlantics were probably the LBSCs longest locomotives at a shade over 58' over buffers.

I guess there were multiple reasons why locos had to be changed to one from the company owning the line. Route knowledge for a start. The stock must have been dual braked and there might have been issues of having a vacuum braked train on the Brighton line.

 

[Martin Shaw]

Interesting to see the Fairburn 2-6-4T at Brighton in 1959.

I thought that they would have all migrated North by that date, so it's school day time again.

The beginnings of discussions about transferring the fairburn tanks away from the SR began in March 58 however it wasn't until 29/11/59 that 34 of them were exchanged for an equivalent number of standard tanks that went to Eastern and Central Section sheds. The exchange took some time and it wasn't until Mar 60 before 42101 departed for it's natural home of Watford, norf of the bleedin river, as some Londoners are want to say.