Weathered Locos & Stock

[Podartist79]

No problem Steve,
Apologies for misunderstanding.
I’ve had access to the Omen range of paints for a good while, but prior to that, I’d have used, and still use for the top layers, oil based Windsor&Newton paints; I much prefer these to enamels. The only time I use enamels now really is through the airbrush on the first layers then as a final flourish to tie things together and soften any effects (probably too much!) that I think stand out too far.
Hope this is more what you’re after?
Thanks for the kind comments re the Hall.
Neil.

 

[steve50]

That's perfect, thank you Neil. One quick question, I'm struggling to find Brown Ochre, any other recommended colour to use with the Indian red for rust effects?

 

[Tim Humphreys ex Mudhen]

That's perfect, thank you Neil. One quick question, I'm struggling to find Brown Ochre, any other recommended colour to use with the Indian red for rust effects?

Steve,

Its available on-line

https://www.cassart.co.uk/winsor-newton-artists-oil-colour-37ml-brown-ochre--c/,

Tim

 

[steve50]

Steve,

Its available on-line

https://www.cassart.co.uk/winsor-newton-artists-oil-colour-37ml-brown-ochre--c/,

Tim

Thank you Tim

 

[steve50]

A before and after using almost the same methods after watching Neils GOG Video. Still a bit of refining to do but I'm pleased as I managed to be a lot more subtle than I usually weather and I think the oil paints helped that.
One thing I did notice was my oils are water soluble, not sure if the properties are any different, but they seemed ok using the Sansador.
Thanks Neil for the inspiration

 

[steve50]

Did the other side, I've seen plenty of photo's of vans this filthy but I think this one's a bit ott for me. A bit more restraint needed in future!

 

[John Duffy]

Seems reasonably clean to me!

 

[Alan]

Likewise looks fairly clean to me too.

 

[Podartist79]

That’s great work Steve!
What a difference from the pristine ‘out of the box’ model.
I don’t think the dirtier side is out of place either.
Neil.

 

[Joe's Garage]

The Hall, Neil, is "rather" nice...I can hear the boiler crackling!!
Also Steve you have done a very realistic job on the mineral and van...dare I say all that is needed is a set of 3 links....I'll run now!
Lovely models
Thanks for posting
Julian

 

[NIDGE D1022]

4949 looks incredible Neil, it's like looking at a photo in an Ian Allen colour portfolio book! As do all of the other models you've posted - the Prairies, 28xxs, the 72xx etc are astonishing to look at - the treatment of the 'dry' and 'shiny' areas on each one is absolutely spot on. I'm on the cusp of going 7mm and this thread has given me the extra nudge I've needed for quite a while, these are exactly the kind of finishes I'd like to achieve in my modelling, or at least try to. I really feel the urge to get stuck in now, once I've decided which loco to buy first, most likely a Dapol Pannier or a Heljan 61xx'er.

The way you've treated the grubbiness of the footplate area on the 72xx is so typical of WR steam locos and reminds me of the Manor I photographed at Toddington a few weeks ago...

 

[steve50]

The Hall, Neil, is "rather" nice...I can hear the boiler crackling!!
Also Steve you have done a very realistic job on the mineral and van...dare I say all that is needed is a set of 3 links....I'll run now!
Lovely models
Thanks for posting
Julian

Thank you Julian, no need to run! I was wondering about 3 links, but the wagons are being prepared for my first exhibition, and although I have tried some at home, I'm not too sure how I'd get on with them all day at a show, but we'll see.

That’s great work Steve!
What a difference from the pristine ‘out of the box’ model.
I don’t think the dirtier side is out of place either.
Neil.

Thank you Neil, I'm becoming a big fan of oil paints as you can really manipulate them until you're satisfied with the look. I've found a few more methods I'd like to try with them as well.

Steve.

 

[Podartist79]

4949 looks incredible Neil, it's like looking at a photo in an Ian Allen colour portfolio book! As do all of the other models you've posted - the Prairies, 28xxs, the 72xx etc are astonishing to look at - the treatment of the 'dry' and 'shiny' areas on each one is absolutely spot on. I'm on the cusp of going 7mm and this thread has given me the extra nudge I've needed for quite a while, these are exactly the kind of finishes I'd like to achieve in my modelling, or at least try to. I really feel the urge to get stuck in now, once I've decided which loco to buy first, most likely a Dapol Pannier or a Heljan 61xx'er.

The way you've treated the grubbiness of the footplate area on the 72xx is so typical of WR steam locos and reminds me of the Manor I photographed at Toddington a few weeks ago...

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Thank you ‘Nidge’.
Very kind.
Good luck with your own projects.
Reference, reference, reference!
Neil.

 

[steve50]

Hi Neil, can I ask, would you use the same basic approach to your weathering for any loco regardless of colour/type? I.e. airbrushing the underframe first.
I want to weather an industrial Ruston but I'm thinking they don't weather quite the same way a main line loco would, especially the underframe?

 

[Podartist79]

Hi Neil, can I ask, would you use the same basic approach to your weathering for any loco regardless of colour/type? I.e. airbrushing the underframe first.
I want to weather an industrial Ruston but I'm thinking they don't weather quite the same way a main line loco would, especially the underframe?

Morning Steve,
Apologies it’s taken a while to get back to you.
I tend to approach each job in a similar way, but tailor my process to suit each individual prototype.
Reference is always key, so that will dictate significantly how much weathering mix I apply and also the colours used as that can make quite a difference too.
Also, with diesels, materials used in their construction and where they’re used, then varies in regard to weathering e.g. where items will rust, accumulate dirt for instance; often in different areas and places to steam locos.
Hope this is helpful.
Neil.

 

[Podartist79]

I’ve just completed the weathering on this superb Lee Marsh Princess Royal loco.
I never thought it could take so long to make a loco look clean but well used!
Probably 30+ hours work in this!

 

[steve50]

Morning Steve,
Apologies it’s taken a while to get back to you.
I tend to approach each job in a similar way, but tailor my process to suit each individual prototype.
Reference is always key, so that will dictate significantly how much weathering mix I apply and also the colours used as that can make quite a difference too.
Also, with diesels, materials used in their construction and where they’re used, then varies in regard to weathering e.g. where items will rust, accumulate dirt for instance; often in different areas and places to steam locos.
Hope this is helpful.
Neil.

Thanks Neil, that's kind of what I was thinking and is most helpful. I'll have to find pictures of the loco and condition I want to replicate then try and work out which colours to use, I know slightly faded paint will be the order of the day, which I think is where the oil paints are most useful.

 

[Lancastrian]

4949 looks incredible Neil, it's like looking at a photo in an Ian Allen colour portfolio book!

Thank you.

Ian (Allen)

 

[jonte]

@steve50 :

jonte

 

[Roger Pound]

The 'Lizzie' looks just as I remember them, hurtling north through Rugby on the 'Red Rose', if I recall correctly, when I was a trainspotting lad. They always seemed well turned out for this working. A delightful job which shows your thirty plus hours painstaking work was very well spent.

Roger