7mm On Heather's Workbench - three is a magic number

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Hi Rob

It's not a scientific test, but there doesn't seem to be any noticeable retardation of the coach when rolled along my length of test track. The amount of surface contact of each wire is quite small, really.

There may be a risk of wearing the wire and the axle over time, more so if the coach is run on an extensive layout.
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Thanks Heather, That's good to know.
My initial thoughts were around the wiper/plunger v's split axles debate on locos.

I hope you are feeling better by the way.
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
I had a super visit to the ALSRM Reading show today. I'm all fired up to get on with things, having met the client for this build "in the flesh" as it were.

I was hoping to get a bit of work done this evening, but the trip back to rainy Chatham took its toll. I've sorted through the various goodies I bought, but I couldn't resist having a fiddle with the microscope slide glazing kit I got from CPL.

I think there'll be a high degree of wastage until I get the knack :(:rant: but glass in a window is certainly a step up on the usually-provided plastic. The glass is so thin, it looks absolutely amazing! I'll have a practice every now and then during the build, but the glaziers will have to wait until the sides are painted.

I'm now wondering if it's possible to source larger sheets than the relatively small ones in the set I have. Coaches with larger windows than these Colletts might be a challenge.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
I'm now wondering if it's possible to source larger sheets than the relatively small ones in the set I have. Coaches with larger windows than these Colletts might be a challenge.

It certainly is possible to get larger* pieces of glass, I've got some here which I know came from eBay, a US-based supplier I think...

Steph

* roughly 2" square.
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
It certainly is possible to get larger* pieces of glass, I've got some here which I know came from eBay, a US-based supplier I think...

Hmm. I'll have to bear that in mind for future projects. Thanks!

Right, I've found a bit of time between installing a new fridge freezer, unusually large amounts of washing and getting over this damned cold to get a bit of work done on the D94.

Yesterday I collected some bits from Eileen's Emporium, including some 36SWG copper wire. I used this to replace the 24SWG I used to detail the dynamo. Things look a bit more like the real thing now, with the addition of the dynamo belt, from thin brass strip. For previous belts I've belted the heck out of some annealed 0.9mm wire to flatten it out. I got a nice thin strip, but a little variable in the width department, which needed a lot of tidying up. I thought I'd use proper strip this time, which is a little thicker in section than I'd like, but does the job.

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That poor old dynamo casing seems to have acquired a dent at some time in its life. I could fill and smooth, but I think it adds a little life to the thing. The "belt" disappears into the bogie in the general direction of where the axle pulley ought to be.

My attention now turned to the remaining detail for this underframe, which is the battery boxes. From what I can gather, on the brake third at least, both boxes were mounted at the opposite end to the dynamo, on either side of the coach. The JLTRT boxes are cast whitemetal bodies with cast brass cover plates. The bodies had a couple of casting errors around the edges, as the next image shows.

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Ian Rice advocated using low melt solder to repair such issues on whitemetal loco bodies, back in the day. I use the same technique, reasoning the low melt solder is more or less the same material as the casting, and makes a stronger repair than your typical filler.

Resting the brass cover plates in the recesses, I scraped and cleaned the area to receive the repair, applied some flux and a big dollop of low melt.

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It does take a while to file and scrape back, but the end result is acceptable - especially under the floor of the coach.

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The next stage will be to glue the cover plates in, cover in paint, then glue onto the floor. I'm sure the large cylindrical mounts aren't at all like the real thing, but without further information they'll do, as will a lack of wiring loom detail in this area.

Now, it's time for dinner. Sausages, chips and peas, I think. We don't go for all that fancy Sunday roast malarkey.
 

S7BcSR

Western Thunderer
Heather
I thought the coach was looking very good in the flesh - as it were - yesterday and even better today. Seeing it made me start thinking that I really ought to have a go at a coach sometime - or as some might say finish the 4 wheelers I started 10 years ago.

Rob
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Rob, I wasn't really into coaches before Richard asked me to start building a Mk1 for him. I'd always found passenger stock a bit hard to get into, not helped by some indifferent kits I'd tinkered with before. (I intend to revisit them soon, now I understand things better.)

I've always been a bit of a non-specialist modeller, being happy to pile into rolling stock, lineside, locos, whatever. There are areas I feel a bit shaky on - Walschaerts valve gear, for example, building straight chassis another - but I now feel confident to have a go and see if I can't improve.

The JLTRT kits make up into reasonable models out of the box. You get most of everything you need to build a nice coach. All I am doing is going those extra few steps to correct things that others might not worry about unduly. If I were building for myself I'd be very tempted to go completely overboard with interiors, for example. The idea of multiple reflections from the compartment glazing, and an overcoat and suitcase slung lazily into the overhead shelf, appeals to me. :drool:

Mind you, discussions with certain parties on Saturday tells me there's plenty out there who want stuff but can't build it. :)
 

S7BcSR

Western Thunderer
Actually mine walked off the train of its own accord, it was so mouldy. And that was on the 16/39 Bournemouth - York from Loughborough Central in June 1959 as a result of a B1 dropping the back end of its coupling rod at 80mph.
Rob
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Aside from some brake pull rod details, which still need a little thought before I plunge in with the wire and solder, I have completed the underframe for the brake third. The couplings and hooks, of course, but they can be fitted at a later stage. I didn't want them flopping about getting in the way.

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Here's another view of the dynamo and belt. I've just noticed I've put the bogie back in the wrong place. Both "loops" of the belt should be below the bogie end frame. :oops:

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An upside-down view of the battery boxes. I studied the photos at hand for quite a while, and decided the gap between the truss frame and the box is larger than it actually appears in some shots. Of all the locations I tried, tucked up against the moulded frames seemed about right.

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Buffers fitted. The heads are held in place by a cast brass collar, which I've solder to the pin. I've whizzy-disced a slot across the frames to take a length of steel wire, which has then been soldered to the end of the collars. While the heads project what I think is the same amount from the housing, their pins are different lengths, hence the kink in the one end of the spring. The compression required to push the buffers in is quite a lot, but I think that's sometimes preferable to a soft spring. We don't want this rake of coaches bouncing back and forth under tow.

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General shot of the underframe to show the battery boxes in place.

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And the view from the other end. Looks rather neat. I have to say the undersides of these 1920s vintage coaches are quite tidy and uncluttered.

Attention turned to the ends. I acquired three sets of CPL detailing bits for the passenger communication gear. I wish I'd known about these things when I was building Richard's Mk1s. The castings are just perfect.

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You may recall the D94 kit lacks the end step and lamp bracket etches the other Collett kits have. CPL to the rescue, once more. On the left, a virgin bow end. On the right, modified to accept CPL etched steps. The various pencil marks were to remind me which holes were for which handrail and whatnot. Unlike the underframes, there's a ton of lovely clutter on each end of these coaches. On the right hand end I've marked out the area left clear when the gangway plate is fitted, and begun the process of adding the gangway door handles. Holes have also been drilled for the electric lighting connectors to have copper wire fitted.

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Here are all the bits to fit. The resin end, etched plate and pair of gangway suspension brackets are JLTRT. The etched steps, lamp brackets and utterly exquisite cast passcom gear is CPL. To give you some idea, the pipes and rods are all cast in place. They are about 0.5mm in diameter. I'll let that sink in for a moment...

Oddly, the only way I felt comfortable cleaning up those castings was to carefully run them over a grinding disc spinning in the minidrill. There was literally no way I could hold the parts so I could use even the finest file on them. The only other work needed was to carefully run a 0.7mm drill through the valve box and the loop at the bottom of the right-side drop link to open up the holes a little.

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Anyway, after about 90 minutes of fettling and gluing. It looks like the right side passcom link is wonky, which is probably true as it's the only way to get it to sit neatly on the bow end. It doesn't look as bad in real life.

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I have to say I enjoyed putting that together. With hindsight the grabrails are a little heavy. Perhaps 0.5mm wire instead of 0.7mm would be better. On the real coaches, the grabrails look very weedy. I'll consider swapping them out after I sleep on it.
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
Hi Heather,

great work as usual. Does the CPL pack contain any 'end steps' - the ones that are fitted to the buffer beams, I ask as I need some for the Inspection Saloon and also could use a set on the Bubble Car.

cheers

Mike
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Mike, the steps pack I got is a full complement (10 each end) of access steps, but not for the buffer beam. I've just had a scoot through the CPL catalogue again, and I can't see anything that fits the bill.
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Mike, the steps pack I got is a full complement (10 each end) of access steps, but not for the buffer beam. I've just had a scoot through the CPL catalogue again, and I can't see anything that fits the bill.

Hi Heather Those castings look superb, is there any chance of a scan of the CPL catalogue?
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
It's been a funny few days this week. Best Beloved and I have been under the weather - again! We must be allergic to JLTRT kits or something.

Anyway, between bouts of feeling sorry for myself and having to forage for comestibles and medicaments, I have been fitting fiddly details to the brake third. I have a feeling I should really make a start on the corridor third and corridor composite soon, but while I'm not feeling at my best, I've been doing my favourite thing: fettling.

The JLTRT brake third interior etch includes some rudimentary details for the guard's compartment. There's an etched cupboard and seat combo, and a jolly little letter rack. They looked a bit lonely with just the handbrake standard for company, so I dived into some armchair modelling.

As ever, the references I have don't quite fit with the kit I'm building, but eventually I managed to figure out some salient details. You may argue that most of it will not even be visible (cf. the Mk2C BSO I built for Richard Carr). You may well be correct, but there are two clear windows on the compartment side, and large corridor side lights, and two windows on the outside corridor side. You'd see something in there. The question is what!

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Here's the van compartment wall fittings. Cupboard and letter rack, steam heat pressure gauge, vacuum brake valve and gauge, emergency tool cupboard, first aid box and fire extinguisher. I always knew those JLTRT spare parts would come in handy. I've constructed these bits on a styrene false compartment wall, for ease of construction and painting.

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Passenger compartment wall. Radiator, food heater, various switches and things, and the tip-up seat.

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Through the guard's door.

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Also through the guard's door.

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Through the guard's window.

Obviously, with the roof on, it's going to be a lot dimmer in there, but I think there's enough detail to keep most folk happy. It kept me quiet for a couple of hours at least.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
I wonder when the first electric food heater was installed in a Guard's compartment of any railway...
 
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