timbowales
Western Thunderer
You should get some sort of loyalty bonus from Peco given the ammount that you are using
7mm Pencarrow - Cornish BR(S)
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Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
You should get some sort of loyalty bonus from Peco given the ammount that you are using
Indeed I should! Amazing how it disappears. Mind you, the same building will need roughly 4x the sheets in 7mm than if built in 4mm. Probably explains a lot...
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
So while WT was offline I did manage some more work on the bridge. This is probably becoming more like death by a 100 boring samey bridge photos with only minor changes in appearance now we're on the detail stage. I'll therefore not go too mad for a while posting updates during this phase.
In the meantime a few from the weekend...
Girder bridge abutments getting stoned. Filler is for the joints and some particularly dislikeable shaped lumps. Well I don't like them anyway, but that's from using many many of these sheets.
Stonework nearing completion on the rear.
An usual view.
The more usual view, embankment built up too.
And a sketchette of how I see the area developing. The polystyrene will be trimmed back a little.
I've nicked / used for inspiration the wall and bridge goings on at the western end of Launceston station. I was pondering over how to do the detail of this corner and, as ever, prototype locations give the best answers.
In the meantime a few from the weekend...
Girder bridge abutments getting stoned. Filler is for the joints and some particularly dislikeable shaped lumps. Well I don't like them anyway, but that's from using many many of these sheets.
Stonework nearing completion on the rear.
An usual view.
The more usual view, embankment built up too.
And a sketchette of how I see the area developing. The polystyrene will be trimmed back a little.
I've nicked / used for inspiration the wall and bridge goings on at the western end of Launceston station. I was pondering over how to do the detail of this corner and, as ever, prototype locations give the best answers.
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Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
If anything I'd try and make it look like different phases of development so the stonework is not too uniform.
For example the retaining wall was built first then the dwellings built later from stone - but partially finished and more regular stone rather than the coarser random stone portrayed by the Wills sheets or even rendered as seen in some photographs of Bodmin buildings.
This would also provide a different building style for the steps leading from the road to the footpath and the footpath wall.
For example the retaining wall was built first then the dwellings built later from stone - but partially finished and more regular stone rather than the coarser random stone portrayed by the Wills sheets or even rendered as seen in some photographs of Bodmin buildings.
This would also provide a different building style for the steps leading from the road to the footpath and the footpath wall.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Cheers Dave. Yes, I'm looking to mix the stone up a bit. The right hand end of the dwellings will be rendered and the middle 3 sections are all a very different stone, with a fair bit of brick detailing.
I am toying with the top of the retaining wall being a metal fence, subject to finding something suitable. That something suitable needs to be able to be constructed to a varying gradient. Shout up if anyone knows of something suitable.
The Wills will be employed for the base of the retaining wall but will be the same sanded back appearance as the girder bridge stonework. The wall and the girder bridge would have been built at the same time after all.
That's the current, subject to change, thoughts anyway...
I am toying with the top of the retaining wall being a metal fence, subject to finding something suitable. That something suitable needs to be able to be constructed to a varying gradient. Shout up if anyone knows of something suitable.
The Wills will be employed for the base of the retaining wall but will be the same sanded back appearance as the girder bridge stonework. The wall and the girder bridge would have been built at the same time after all.
That's the current, subject to change, thoughts anyway...
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Now, where were we?
Disappointingly, various issues and commitments during the week meant that I didn't manage to work on the bridge at all. Problem with that is that you lose your thread. Really should leave myself notes.
On the plus side I did do some 'passive' modelling and managed to nail down what the north abutment area will look like. Small wins...
Disappointingly, various issues and commitments during the week meant that I didn't manage to work on the bridge at all. Problem with that is that you lose your thread. Really should leave myself notes.
On the plus side I did do some 'passive' modelling and managed to nail down what the north abutment area will look like. Small wins...
John57sharp
Western Thunderer
I do a LOT of passive modeling at the moment! It means I've more projects than the space-time-money continuum will allow.
John
John
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Just a couple of shots bringing progress I to date ...
And, an explanation of why this seems to be taking far longer than expected... The bridge is actually quite a big structure when compared to other buildings...
There's the saving that there's no windows or doors but there are quite a few tarty bits to do, corners and joints to sort. Plus I suppose there's also a strong element of making it up as I go too, as I'm blending prototypes. Those are my excuses anyway.
And, an explanation of why this seems to be taking far longer than expected... The bridge is actually quite a big structure when compared to other buildings...
There's the saving that there's no windows or doors but there are quite a few tarty bits to do, corners and joints to sort. Plus I suppose there's also a strong element of making it up as I go too, as I'm blending prototypes. Those are my excuses anyway.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Avid fans of the bridge will have noted that the abutments received a good dose of filler last weekend. Some may consider this overkill.
Yes it is entirely possible to cut and chamfer the Wills sheets to get a joint where the horizontal courses line up and there's no joint. However...
There's never a good place to put the vertical joints so that you end up with good size blocks of stone either side of the corner. So, my approach is not to bother about the vertical elements, and napalm the corner with solvent and filler.
Once set I go in with a variety of tools and remark blocks where I want them in sizes and patterns that would be seen on a corner. Takes a while but I think lifts the finished model.
I'm part way through this corner and you can see how it is developing.
And a shot of the various tools used...
Yes it is entirely possible to cut and chamfer the Wills sheets to get a joint where the horizontal courses line up and there's no joint. However...
There's never a good place to put the vertical joints so that you end up with good size blocks of stone either side of the corner. So, my approach is not to bother about the vertical elements, and napalm the corner with solvent and filler.
Once set I go in with a variety of tools and remark blocks where I want them in sizes and patterns that would be seen on a corner. Takes a while but I think lifts the finished model.
I'm part way through this corner and you can see how it is developing.
And a shot of the various tools used...
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Cheers, thanks for the kind comments, much appreciated.
timbowales
Western Thunderer
As a matter of interest, how many actual hours have you invested in those bridges?
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Hi Tim,
I never keep track as I think it would scare me. At least 50 so far would be my best guess but I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was nearer 80 hrs. To be fair it's more than I thought but I hadn't really appreciated how much detail there was in the bridge or quite how large it would be!
It is however the element of the hobby that I enjoy the most, so I really don't care how long it actually takes because I'm enjoying the making aspect. Rushing to get something running isn't my goal, and I've long realised I'm a planner/builder rather than an operator.
I have on numerous occasions been asked to make buildings for people in return for payment. I have said no to them all though as the amount people seem willing to offer normally equates to less than £1 per hour once materials are accounted for.
I'd rather use what time I do have working on Pencarrow. The only exception to this rule is when I've made stuff for friends in exchange for stuff they have done for me, or if it's a group project. That exchange of skills can work quite nicely.
Pencarrow
Western Thunderer
Thanks, much appreciated. For me it's no different than making sure loco wheels have the right number of spokes or the boiler fittings are the correct shape. The vast majority of folk won't notice but it's important to me. And, as I said above, I enjoy doing it!
Dave Holt
Western Thunderer
And very nice it is, too. All that time and effort is definitely worth while. It'll almost be a shame to paint it and cover all the different materials and mods to the moulded stonework.
I noticed that the prototype bridge you illustrated some while back (post 3246) had some red brick repairs to the stonework, which i thought added and interesting variation. Probably a bit too recent for your chosen period?
Dave.
I noticed that the prototype bridge you illustrated some while back (post 3246) had some red brick repairs to the stonework, which i thought added and interesting variation. Probably a bit too recent for your chosen period?
Dave.
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