Sad news, Ian. IMHO, if they are old enough to vote (not that even this would deal with a 13 year old) they are old enough to face an adult court. I'll not be drawn any further in this debate.
Phil - again, thank you. That's a very full and perfect description of all the locos and locations.
An interesting review of your visit to Aberystwyth, Martin, and as we've discussed elsewhere the rather antiseptic view of railways provided by our various and wonderful preserved railways is not as we remember them. However, it's what the public want to see if as long as it keeps the cash flowing in to the coffers.... Happily, on some enthusiast aimed days weathered engines have been prepared although even then the freight stock remains untypical.
And Simon - that's a generous offer vis-a-vis Aberystwyth shed drawings.
Today the last of the Bowaters photos (although there are some more in the colour slides) and a few representative of the steam runs in preservation before we get back to a bit of narrow gauge by way of an errant bus photo. The next post will be back to the railway of the sixties.
This is Conqueror again, as kindly described by Phil above and, I believe, in the same location, again in 1964.
I believe this to be Black 5 5407 on the Cumbrian Mountain Pullman in the 1980s. Information about the location will be gratefully received.
Edit Thanks to Martin identified as Settle Junction.
Princess Coronation 46229 Duchess of Hamilton at Kildwick in North Yorkshire in the 1980s.
This is described as 46229 S & C 1980s Kildwick. Picking the bones out of that I wonder whether it was photographed on the same day as the shot of 46229 and in approximately the same location but perhaps someone will recognise the location. Anyway, I think this is a Class 40 or EE Type 4 if you prefer passing on what appears to be an engineers train.
Edit: Confirmed as Kildwick and Crosshills Goods Yard - thanks Dave.
The ony ID on this one is North London Bus 1980s (you'll see why in the next photo). It's 46231 Duchess of Atholl so definitely not the 1980s but precisely when and where I'm uncertain. It has the look of North London, perhaps Northwick Park about it but as it was always a Polmadie engine and withdrawn at the end of 1962 that seems exceptionally unlikely.
Here's an outlier. A North London Bus in the 1980s the registration of which I read as SMU 916 N and could possibly be right outside Tim's house in Farrer Road, Hornsey. I don't know how this translates to a fleet number or class as I lose interest in any buses which arrived after Routemasters!
Edit: Thanks to Dave we now know it's a Daimler Fleetline first introduced into service in 1970. DMS 916 - reg SMU 916 N (1974) was allocated to Wood Green garage (WN).
The DMS was introduced on route W3 in 24th September 1974 and replaced by MCW Metrobuses on 4th June 1981 which helps narrow down the photo date. You may wish to change this to
1974-80/2022. The full history can be on
Ian's Bus Stop.
As far as I can make out the W3 did not run down Farrer Road as the route at this point was Alexandra Palace Way - Priory Road - Hornsey High Street. The W3 route commenced on 7th September 1968 between Northumberland Park and Finsbury Park and is still in operation today.
If this is Farrer Road then the bus would be on diversion due to the section of Priory Road being closed between Farrer Road and the Alexandra Palace Way/Park Road/Muswell Hill road junction. Here's a section of the area (see below) with the normal route as the solid line and the diversion as the dashed line. They would want to pick up the original route as quickly as possible around any diversions.
Later...I've done some more
time wasting digging on the DMS and after following the W3 route and narrowed the location to Rokesly Avenue N8. The pattern on the front garden walls are the same.
Comment from Tony... LT also did a fair amount of time wasting on DMS's, then I did some more time wasting reading the history of the DMS in London on Ian's Bus Stop. Made interesting reading, especially from the garage engineering/fitter point of view. I was amazed they could do an engine swap on an RT/RM overnight in a garage.
Back to Dave... The garage fitters could have a RT/RM back on the road in no time at all - the bus equivalent to a F1 pitstop I presume. Interesting when you start reading about the buses procured after the RT, RF and RM not being amenable to nor designed for the Aldenham style strip down.
On safer ground here at the Welshpool & Llanfair in March 1965 with The Countess at Castle Caereinion.
Correction thanks to Phil. THE COUNTESS is actually at Llanfair Caereinion
Tallyllyn Railway in 1965 and an unidentified loco in the yard. More details on this one as well, please.
Edit: From Martin - Jubilee 1897, Manning Wardle 1382 of 1897 originally built for Cilgwyn Quarry near Nantle, subsequently sold to the Penrhyn Railway along with slightly smaller sister Lilla, it was on long term loan to the narrow gauge museum at Towyn before returning to the abortive Penrhyn railway scheme. It was further sold to Peter Rampton for the museum at Aberystwyth where it is apparently being restored to working order. Lilla is at Boston Lodge.
Thanks, Phil, for additional... The loco behind JUBILEE 1897 is Ruston & Hornsby 189968/39, ex Blockley's Brickworks at Hadley, Shropshire. I photographed the same pair in May 1964 and the Ruston didn't last much longer as it was only bought for spares and dismantled soon after. IRS records have it as dismantled in 1964, so Tim's photograph might have been taken a little earlier
Brian
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Also for the additional info regarding the photo of Jubilee.
) Anyway, this is as far as I can establish Tim's first visit to Scotland and shows Class K2 2-6-0 61764 Loch Arkaig at Glasgow Eastfield MPD in August 1955. It was the final shed for the loco which had been there since 1942 and it was withdrawn in September 1961. (SLS & BR Database). It was scrapped at Cowlairs Works by the end of 1961. (BR Database).
