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BrushType4

Western Thunderer
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So still at the planning stage and just a few days before I need to have a trackplan ready for the first milestone of the S7 layout competition. At 20 feet to the inch it's not a huge area when scaled to 7mm but its still much to big as it is....

The white slip of paper to the bottom left represents a 4'x1'6" board.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Where did you get that drawing from? Looks like an original, I picked one up the other day for Cricklewood station, didn't show the depot though but still nice to have an official drawing from the 50s in my collection.
 

BrushType4

Western Thunderer
Where did you get that drawing from? Looks like an original, I picked one up the other day for Cricklewood station, didn't show the depot though but still nice to have an official drawing from the 50s in my collection.

Andrew very kindly sorted it for me. :thumbs:
 
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Simon Dunkley

Guest
Hope that table isn't worth £1200? :p
I once built some ply and rivet track on a table. I wrongly assumed that the cartridge paper underneath would act as a heat insulator...

That created an interesting pattern in the varnish!
(Table was probably worth £12 rather than £1200, though. And 12p after I had "decorated" it...)
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Any tips to prevent the chairs twisting?

There must be something in the air with all this track build going on.:thumbs:

It probably sounds elementary and is from a complete beginner ,but you have got all the chairs the right way around? By that I mean the keys facing the same way?

I ask as I didn't have a problem with mine twisting (exactoscale chairs/sleepers), although Graham when he called yesterday on his way to York did explain that I had got the end chairs on my section the wrong way around. Apparently the keys go in from the other side next to a fishplate because they couldn't be knocked in due to the plate being in the way (makes perfect sense when it's pointed out:))). My appologies if this isn't the same news to you as it was to me:oops:
 

BrushType4

Western Thunderer
There must be something in the air with all this track build going on.:thumbs:

It probably sounds elementary and is from a complete beginner ,but you have got all the chairs the right way around? By that I mean the keys facing the same way?

I ask as I didn't have a problem with mine twisting (exactoscale chairs/sleepers), although Graham when he called yesterday on his way to York did explain that I had got the end chairs on my section the wrong way around. Apparently the keys go in from the other side next to a fishplate because they couldn't be knocked in due to the plate being in the way (makes perfect sense when it's pointed out:)). My appologies if this isn't the same news to you as it was to me:oops:
Good point :headbang: :'(
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
And keys should always face the direction travel, I.E. they tighten in the same direction of train travel. If it's a single branch line then I think some have to be placed the other way around, could be alternate or six one way or six the other, track experts would know more as I suspect each region or area differed.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
There must be something in the air with all this track build going on.:thumbs:

I'd join y'all except for a few valid points, don't have a track plan and don't have any track making bits yet, next shopping list at WM and that's at least two months away.

Mind the first can be negated as I liked Phils idea of just making 60' lengths (JLTRT) and storing them ready for use, I'd put them on my Bolster C but for two reasons, it's not built yet LOL and it's too short, which begs the question, what did BR use to transport 60' sections of track?
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
Mind the first can be negated as I liked Phils idea of just making 60' lengths (JLTRT) and storing them ready for use, I'd put them on my Bolster C but for two reasons, it's not built yet LOL and it's too short, which begs the question, what did BR use to transport 60' sections of track?

Specialist wagons of the correct length for the purpose:

Salmon - http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brlmssalmon or http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsalmon5ft or
http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsalmon8ft

There were (lots) of other types including things like Sturgeon (which normally had sides but which could have these removed - http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon

BR(S), in typically thrifty fashion took underframes from things like 4CORs and turned them into long rail wagons. These were known as Marlins, but were normally used for long welded rail. Borails seem not to have been used for track panels, but lengths of new rail and, for some reason, were generally allocated to the traffic departments rather than the engineers despite not usually being used for things that similar bogie bolsters were used for. Never worked out why that was...

Adam
 

BrushType4

Western Thunderer
A quick coat of Halfords matt black....

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and before i forget, i cut in the rail a representation of a joint.

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It looks nice an oily but will dry a very flat matt. Next will be the rail and chairs.
 

Colin M

Western Thunderer
Looking good. Worth the effort. :thumbs:

Utmost respect to peeps that have the patience to build their own plain line track, especially for whole layouts!
 

3 LINK

Western Thunderer
Hi Phil,

I have never had the problem of the chairs twisting before, but with the Butanone ( MEK ) there is usually a couple of minutes before it really grips hard. So you should have time to sort out any wayward chairs, or you can flood them with MEK and they will loosen up again :thumbs:.

Or maybe it's the chairs way of saying you should of gone 32mm f/s :D.

Keep up the good work,

Martyn.
 

BrushType4

Western Thunderer
Maybe Martyn!

The track has dried so to the next stage..

Mask
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Paint with rusty rails
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Once this is dry, then to ballasting....
 
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Simon Dunkley

Guest
And keys should always face the direction travel, I.E. they tighten in the same direction of train travel. If it's a single branch line then I think some have to be placed the other way around, could be alternate or six one way or six the other, track experts would know more as I suspect each region or area differed.
It depends on traffic and conditions. If locos are working hard, say accelerating or climbing uphill, then the rail will creep away from the direction of travel, due to reaction.
Conversely, if there are going to be some heavy breaking forces then the rail will creep with the direction of travel. On a single line, keys are likely to be driven downhill on a gradient, and towards a stopping place.
On double track, it will not always be the case that the rail creeps in different directions on the up and down lines: on a steep gradient, it is possible for the keys on both lines to be driven downhill.
That said, local conditions will always prevail, as the gangers will soon find keys working loose if they are driven from the "wrong" side.
A lot of it, though, is down to common sense - but if you can find photographs of track in similar circumstances to those for your model, then use these as a guide.
(By "driven from", this is the side the key sticks out, so it can be hammered in.)

Hope that helps.
 
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