BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Hopefully Oz7mm will come along and explain all.Hi Phill,
Would be nice if you could tell us what colours and in what order they were applied on each piece.
Rob
Brushs Laser Cutting and 3d Printing workbench
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BrushType4
Western Thunderer
The mock up looks good with the brick paper.
I've been looking at buildings recently and have been put off by the 'scale' mortar joints in embossed or injected plastic sheets. I'm sure if these are scaled up to 12" to 1' you would be able to put your fist in them and climb them without ropes.
The laser cut sheets look good and how deep are the mortar joints? The sheets also look easier to line up the cuts and joints to ensure the bricks are carried around corners properly.
Are O scale laser cut brick sheets available in the UK 'off the shelf' as they appear to be in the US?
David
The mortar courses are not that deep, less than a 1mm. Once painted I think they look ok. I've read that some people fill the mortar with polyfiller. Something I will try.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Where is 'WL' ?
I'm guessing it'll be a standard post war LMR type box, if so I have drawings for LMR Type 5 and more common Type 15 signal boxes if they're any help.
Addendum, ahh Watery Lane, all brick Type 13 (ARP) by the look of things, unless there's another box at Watery Lane?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/roger_sutcliffe/5542711625/
Don't have drawings for the Type 13 I'm afraid.
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Can you pass me something and I'll have a go.
iploffy
OC Blue Brigade
That the baby
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Been busy cutting windows.....
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Thinking that Ploffy's signal box was traditional I bashed up a window and arch template...
LBSC Type 3 Box Window
Ill save it for a another project.
LBSC Type 3 Box Window
Ill save it for a another project.
Locomodels
Western Thunderer
Can we guess where they are going?
Are they cut from Romark? The brick panels look really good, what are they cut from?
All questions I know but it's nice to know these things.
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
You can guess
I'm using 1mm Rowmark for windows and 2mm MDF for walls. I've taken delivery of several 8x4 sheets of the stuff today!
I do international postage
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
Ref the painted samples Phil posted a few days ago.
At Love Lane we have been playing around with brick and mortar colours and effects for a few weeks. Up to now we have been using embossed plastic sheet which Peter Hunt prefers but last Wednesday when Phil brought the sample pieces illustrated above along, we have managed to convert him. If Phil can resolve the issue of cutting corners so the brick courses bond accurately we will be using brick detail laser engraved into the MDF surface.
For the station and other buildings at Love Lane we need a typical London red brick and in of those strokes of luck that don't happen often enough, I tried one of the colours from the Lifecolor Rust & Dust set (acrylics). The number is UA703 but it appears difficult to buy separately from the set though I managed to find a couple of pots on line last week. That is the colour on the brick arch. The yellow brick is IIRC burnt umber acrylic in a tube from the local Sudbury art shop. The darker section (an experiment to get the colour for the platform faces) has a wash of Modelmates oil brown over it.
In both cases the mortar is Modelmates Brick Joint Filler, a wash which is painted over the whole job and then, as it is water based, washed off the surface. As you can see from these quick experiments we have managed to wash it out of the joint lines in places as well. In future the plan is to leave the brick colour a week before putting anything over it and leaving the brick joint filler at least an hour before washing off.
We have been trying a lot of the Modelmates effects as I was given some samples by the proprietor, Alan Taylor, a fellow glider pilot. I'll post a few photos later in the week of some of the weathering we have done using them. For those who like wintry scenes, they do an aerosol of "snow effect" which actually sprays a wax. You can build up snowdrifts (but don't let your grandchildren near it, it's a bugger to get out of detail).
Phil and I will keep experimenting but we hope to have the Love Lane buildings on the go in the next few weeks.
John
At Love Lane we have been playing around with brick and mortar colours and effects for a few weeks. Up to now we have been using embossed plastic sheet which Peter Hunt prefers but last Wednesday when Phil brought the sample pieces illustrated above along, we have managed to convert him. If Phil can resolve the issue of cutting corners so the brick courses bond accurately we will be using brick detail laser engraved into the MDF surface.
For the station and other buildings at Love Lane we need a typical London red brick and in of those strokes of luck that don't happen often enough, I tried one of the colours from the Lifecolor Rust & Dust set (acrylics). The number is UA703 but it appears difficult to buy separately from the set though I managed to find a couple of pots on line last week. That is the colour on the brick arch. The yellow brick is IIRC burnt umber acrylic in a tube from the local Sudbury art shop. The darker section (an experiment to get the colour for the platform faces) has a wash of Modelmates oil brown over it.
In both cases the mortar is Modelmates Brick Joint Filler, a wash which is painted over the whole job and then, as it is water based, washed off the surface. As you can see from these quick experiments we have managed to wash it out of the joint lines in places as well. In future the plan is to leave the brick colour a week before putting anything over it and leaving the brick joint filler at least an hour before washing off.
We have been trying a lot of the Modelmates effects as I was given some samples by the proprietor, Alan Taylor, a fellow glider pilot. I'll post a few photos later in the week of some of the weathering we have done using them. For those who like wintry scenes, they do an aerosol of "snow effect" which actually sprays a wax. You can build up snowdrifts (but don't let your grandchildren near it, it's a bugger to get out of detail).
Phil and I will keep experimenting but we hope to have the Love Lane buildings on the go in the next few weeks.
John
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Spent some time this morning on the cutter.
The windows are a tight fit in the frame so I need to adjust the kerf tolerance a little.
The windows are a tight fit in the frame so I need to adjust the kerf tolerance a little.
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Dodgy iPhone pic but I hope gives you an idea of size along with the look and feel of a finished window.
flexible_coupling
Western Thunderer
I'm very impressed by the look of the lasered MDF.... far better than I expected, not plain and uniform. Very interesting stuff....
Overseer
Western Thunderer
Looking good.
I haven't seen the prototype but it is uncommon for all the brickwork to be Flemish bond. English bond (alternating courses of headers and stretchers) was far more common for engineering works like this, with stretcher bond or English garden wall bond for infill brickwork.
I haven't seen the prototype but it is uncommon for all the brickwork to be Flemish bond. English bond (alternating courses of headers and stretchers) was far more common for engineering works like this, with stretcher bond or English garden wall bond for infill brickwork.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Phil
That looks great I know where to come when Croscombe needs some building
Richard
That looks great I know where to come when Croscombe needs some building
Richard
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
I've been asked if I can do a traditional railway era warehouse so having had a look on the net I found one that I like the look of and whose features are mainly coloured brick and pattern.
This particular building lends itself quite well to be built in modular sections. The vertical joins can be hidden with drain pipe detail and the horizontal join should be near invisible. So that in mind I've drawn up a section to see how it looked.
The brickwork is quite complicated and I'm not sure I've quite got all the course detail right. I'll print this out to see how it looks and adjust it.
This will be a triple layer of 2mm MDF front face, 2mm MDF middle layer to hold window detail and lastly a third layer of 2mm MDF/ 2mm PLY for the building structure.
This particular building lends itself quite well to be built in modular sections. The vertical joins can be hidden with drain pipe detail and the horizontal join should be near invisible. So that in mind I've drawn up a section to see how it looked.
The brickwork is quite complicated and I'm not sure I've quite got all the course detail right. I'll print this out to see how it looks and adjust it.
This will be a triple layer of 2mm MDF front face, 2mm MDF middle layer to hold window detail and lastly a third layer of 2mm MDF/ 2mm PLY for the building structure.
